Re: [sword-devel] Fixes to versification/av11n.py script in sword-tools repo

[Greg Hellings]

I pulled your changes for av11n.py straight from your git mirror and then
just cherry picked them into my master before using dcommit to send them to
SVN.

I don't have permissions on SWORD main outside of bindings and the
CMakeFiles.

--Greg

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 00:23 Matěj Cepl  wrote:

> On 2018-04-05, 02:34 GMT, Greg Hellings wrote:
> > Feel free to submit future revisions directly through git.
>
> Ehm, I have to repeat: which git repo? And also, could I ask for
> those Czech locale being updated as well (previous set of
> patches sent to this list), please?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Matěj
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Re: [sword-devel] Fixes to versification/av11n.py script in sword-tools repo

[Matěj Cepl]

On 2018-04-05, 02:34 GMT, Greg Hellings wrote:
> Feel free to submit future revisions directly through git. 

Ehm, I have to repeat: which git repo? And also, could I ask for 
those Czech locale being updated as well (previous set of 
patches sent to this list), please?

Thank you,

Matěj
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its
victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live
under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The
robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at
some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own
good will torment us without end, for they do so with the
approval of their consciences.
-- C. S. Lewis


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Re: [sword-devel] Fixes to versification/av11n.py script in sword-tools repo

[Matěj Cepl]

On 2018-04-08, 16:52 GMT, Jaak Ristioja wrote:
> Sword++ development. This is meant to be an unofficial 
> read-only mirror, so please don't submit pull requests. If 
> there are any problems with that mirror, please contact me.

Oh well, I have already my own git-svn mirror at 
https://gitlab.com/mcepl/sword (and I believe, better than 
yours, tags are tags, and I have found all authors and gave them 
proper names). So, I'll keep my git-send-email configuration 
up-to-date.

Best,

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Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for Android 1.0.7

[Vince LaRue]

Hi Troy,

Is there a way to install a module manually from a local source? (like 
Module Maintainer Mode in PocketSword) I'd like to be able to install a 
module that I've been working on for a friend who has an Android device.


I also don't see an item on the Wiki page 
(https://wiki.crosswire.org/Choosing_a_SWORD_program) that indicates 
this support. Maybe I don't know what I'm looking at.


Thanks,

Vince

Karl Kleinpaste wrote:

On 03/27/2018 06:48 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Let me know if 1.0.7 has troubles still on your 6.0 tablet.




OK, so hitting About didn't /actually/ put the app into a hard 
lock-up. It just looked exactly like that, to the resolution of 50x of 
the typical time frame that Joe Average expects when asking for About.


When I was getting this new tablet(*) configured, I copied my entire 
module set into it. There are 450+ Bibles in there, out of almost 800 
total, and the About handler is going to the trouble to crawl around 
mods.d/*.conf for ALL of them. It takes upwards of half a minute, and 
previously I had killed it off after waiting maybe 10 or 15 
seconds...because it /looked/ like a hard lock-up when all I wanted 
was, you know, About. Then I set it down while "locked up," to start 
writing this email, and...


E, OK, so Joe Average Android User is not going to have 450 Bibles 
installed. But as a matter of UI clarity, I'm unconvinced that 
reviewing the Description of every single installed Bible is 
particularly useful. A control to get that from a displayed Bible, or 
from a list of installed Bibles, would be preferable.


--karl

* Walmart special, last year's model, used mostly as a Kindle + social 
media device, website order only (no longer in stores):

https://www.walmart.com/ip/RCA-Viking-Pro-10-1-Android-2-in-1-Tablet-32GB-Quad-Core/45804387
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Re: [sword-devel] intro material CSS

[ref...@gmx.net]

I think it would be an odd departure from the norm to not cover for this in the engine, part I if straightforwardPeterSent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects. Original Message Subject: Re: [sword-devel] intro material CSSFrom: Karl Kleinpaste To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum CC: 
  
  
On 04/08/2018 01:23 PM, Troy A.
  Griffitts wrote:

they
  don't really want to show Verse 0 before a chapter intro, so ifa
  frontends want to show them with some special formatting, wouldn't
  it be fine for the frontend to put a 
  around it?

  My initial take was indeed simply to wrap italics around intro
  material, though I was even more blunt with plain ol'
  .
  
  But Greg's countersuggestion after I committed the change and
  closed the report was that CSS is the right weapon. And in fact I
  had already thought so. But the problem as I see it is in making
  it a one-off thing in Xiphos, thus completely unlike any other
  frontend. Is it not appropriate that, when requesting verse 0, the
  material come back from the engine with an appropriate class wrap,
  with a default class handler (e.g. italics) the way it already
  does for other modifiable items, like transChange and
  wordsOfJesus? That would take care of any XHTML-driven UI in the
  first place. Then specifically for Xiphos, the use of
  PreferredCSSXHTML (that is, style.css) would let power users
  change italics to smaller fonts or colored text or whatever.
  
  Anyway... I can do it myself for Xiphos. I just figure that
  generality would say that the engine is well-positioned to provide
  this when verse 0 is requested. My  hack for
  now is a stopgap, a placeholder until/unless the engine can
  provide this generality.
  

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Re: [sword-devel] intro material CSS

[Karl Kleinpaste]

On 04/08/2018 01:23 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> they don't really want to show Verse 0 before a chapter intro, so ifa
> frontends want to show them with some special formatting, wouldn't it
> be fine for the frontend to put a  around it?

My initial take was indeed simply to wrap italics around intro material,
though I was even more blunt with plain ol' .

But Greg's countersuggestion after I committed the change and closed the
report was that CSS is the right weapon. And in fact I had already
thought so. But the problem as I see it is in making it a one-off thing
in Xiphos, thus completely unlike any other frontend. Is it not
appropriate that, when requesting verse 0, the material come back from
the engine with an appropriate class wrap, with a default class handler
(e.g. italics) the way it already does for other modifiable items, like
transChange and wordsOfJesus? That would take care of any XHTML-driven
UI in the first place. Then specifically for Xiphos, the use of
PreferredCSSXHTML (that is, style.css) would let power users change
italics to smaller fonts or colored text or whatever.

Anyway... I can do it myself for Xiphos. I just figure that generality
would say that the engine is well-positioned to provide this when verse
0 is requested. My  hack for now is a stopgap, a placeholder
until/unless the engine can provide this generality.
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Re: [sword-devel] intro material CSS

[Troy A. Griffitts]

Hey Karl,

When showing intro material, frontends already need to pull them from special 
locations and display them uniquely, e.g., they don't really want to show Verse 
0 before a chapter intro, so ifa frontends want to show them with some special 
formatting, wouldn't it be fine for the frontend to put a  
around it?

I'm not particularly on one side or the other, but just want to hear your 
thoughts.

Troy



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Re: [sword-devel] Fixes to versification/av11n.py script in sword-tools repo

[Jaak Ristioja]

On 05.04.2018 11:45, Matěj Cepl wrote:
> On 2018-04-05, 02:34 GMT, Greg Hellings wrote:
>> Feel free to submit future revisions directly through git. 
> 
> ??? There is some git? I thought 
> https://github.com/refdoc/sword/ could be alive, but 
> https://github.com/refdoc/sword/pull/1 persuaded me otherwise.

If it helps, feel free to base your patches on

  https://github.com/bibletime/crosswire-sword-mirror

which is automatically kept up to date with the Sword SVN repository
(https://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk), and is also used as a base for
Sword++ development. This is meant to be an unofficial read-only mirror,
so please don't submit pull requests. If there are any problems with
that mirror, please contact me.

Best regards,
J

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Re: [sword-devel] intro material CSS

[ref...@gmx.net]

I will look into this. You will either see a commit by tomorrow or a messAge of defeat, but I think it should be easy. PeterSent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects. Original Message Subject: [sword-devel] intro material CSSFrom: Karl Kleinpaste To: sword-devel@crosswire.orgCC: 
  
  
I have a feature request from someone wanting
  per-book and -chapter introductory material to be visually
  distinguished from regular text.
  
  The Right Way to do this would be to wrap the text suitably
  ("...") and also include a
  default CSS control to control this, e.g. italics, just as default
  controls are provided for divineName and wordsOfJesus.
  
  Would there be any problem with doing this?

  

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Re: [sword-devel] Front-ends in which search can find words in the canonical Psalm headings?

[David Haslam]

Thanks Troy,

> [scribe@localhost diatheke]$ ./diatheke -b KJV -s attribute -k 
> Heading///Neginoth
> Entries containing "Heading///Neginoth"-- Psalms 4:1Psalms 6:1 ; Psalms 54:1 
> ; Psalms 55:1 ; Psalms 67:1 ; Psalms 76:1 ;  -- 6 matches total (KJV)

You may wish to investigate why there is no " ; " after the first instance 
found. Looks like a minor bug!
btw. It's not just in the email transcript. I checked and found the same on my 
PC.

Is it still true that diatheke cannot output the whole of any particular 
canonical Psalm title, or is this feasible by refining the search parameters?

NB. I have just updated some things in 
https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Diatheke

More could be done to expand on the various other search types.

Best regards,

David

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On 5 April 2018 4:31 PM, Troy A. Griffitts  wrote:

> On 04/05/2018 08:01 AM, David Haslam wrote:
>
>> Thanks Troy for all this fine detail.
>>
>> Is there any way that these special search parameters can be passed to 
>> diatheke (as is) ?
>
> [scribe@localhost diatheke]$ ./diatheke -b KJV -s attribute -k 
> Heading///Neginoth
> Entries containing "Heading///Neginoth"-- Psalms 4:1Psalms 6:1 ; Psalms 54:1 
> ; Psalms 55:1 ; Psalms 67:1 ; Psalms 76:1 ;  -- 6 matches total (KJV)
>
>> Or would diatheke need further enhancing to support search within headings 
>> such as Psalm titles?
>>
>> Best regards, David
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 23:18, Troy A. Griffitts  wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a quick command.  The entry attributes path / search syntax might 
>>> not be obvious.Entry attributes key paths are always 3 levels deep + 
>>> the final segment the value of the attribute.  Empty path segments mean 
>>> 'any'.  This means find 'Neginoth' in the value of any entry attribute 
>>> under 'Heading'.
>>>
>>> [scribe@localhost cmdline]$ ./search KJV Heading///Neginoth
>>> [0=50===100]
>>>  ==
>>> Psalms 4:1
>>> Psalms 6:1
>>> Psalms 54:1
>>> Psalms 55:1
>>> Psalms 67:1
>>> Psalms 76:1
>>>
>>> Likewise, in any entry attribute:
>>>
>>> [scribe@localhost cmdline]$ ./search KJV ///Neginoth
>>> [0=50===100]
>>>  ==
>>> Psalms 4:1
>>> Psalms 6:1
>>> Psalms 54:1
>>> Psalms 55:1
>>> Psalms 67:1
>>> Psalms 76:1
>>> Habakkuk 3:19
>>>
>>> Or very specifically the first preverse heading of a verse:
>>>
>>> [scribe@localhost cmdline]$ ./search KJV Heading/Preverse/0/Neginoth
>>> [0=50===100]
>>>  ==
>>> Psalms 4:1
>>> Psalms 6:1
>>> Psalms 54:1
>>> Psalms 55:1
>>> Psalms 67:1
>>> Psalms 76:1
>>>
>>> Here's the entry attribute dump, output from the 'lookup' example, for 
>>> Ps.4.1 from the KJV:
>>>
>>> [scribe@localhost cmdline]$ ./lookup KJV Ps.4.1
>>> ==Raw=Entry===
>>> Psalms 4:1:
>>> >> canonical="true" type="psalm">>> morph="strongMorph:TH8764">To the chief Musician >> lemma="strong:H05058">on Neginoth, A Psalm 
>>> of David.>> subType="x-preverse" eID="pv2"/>>> morph="strongMorph:TH8798">Hear >> morph="strongMorph:TH8800">me when I call, O 
>>> God of my righteousness: >> lemma="strong:H07337" morph="strongMorph:TH8689">thou hast enlarged me 
>>> when I was >> lemma="strong:H06862">in distress; >> morph="strongMorph:TH8798">have mercy >> morph="strongMorph:TH8798">upon me, and hear >> lemma="strong:H08605">my prayer.>> type="study">chief…: or, >> type="alternative">overseer>> type="study">have…: or, be 
>>> gracious unto me
>>> ==Render=Entry
>>> .divineName { font-variant: small-caps; }
>>> .wordsOfJesus { color: red; }
>>> .transChange { font-style: italic; }
>>> .transChange.transChange-supplied { font-style: italic; }
>>> .transChange.transChange-added { font-style: italic; }
>>> .transChange.transChange-tenseChange::before { content: '*'; }
>>> .transChange.transChange-tenseChange { font-style: normal; }
>>> .transChange:lang(zh) { font-style: normal; text-decoration: dotted 
>>> underline; }
>>> .overline { text-decoration: overline; }
>>> .indent1 { margin-left: 1em; }
>>> .indent2 { margin-left: 2em; }
>>> .indent3 { margin-left: 3em; }
>>> .indent4 { margin-left: 4em; }
>>> abbr { &:hover{ &:before{ content: attr(title); } } }
>>> .small-caps { font-variant: small-caps; }
>>> .selah { text-align: right; width: 50%; margin: 0; padding: 0; }
>>> .acrostic { text-align: center; }
>>> .colophon {font-style: italic; font-size: small; display: 

[sword-devel] intro material CSS

[Karl Kleinpaste]

I have a feature request from someone wanting per-book and -chapter
introductory material to be visually distinguished from regular text.

The Right Way to do this would be to wrap the text suitably ("...") and also include a default CSS control to
control this, e.g. italics, just as default controls are provided for
divineName and wordsOfJesus.

Would there be any problem with doing this?
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