Re: t-and-f: Now the spotlight is on Kelli White
"Ms White has been taking the substance on prescription to treat a medical condition that runs in her family." "Even if genuine multiplex families are rare, 1 to 2% of the first-degree relatives of narcolepsy patients manifest the disorder, compared with 0.02 to 0.18% in the general population." Sounds like it's a family for the medical journals(or maybe Slate or the New Yorker). http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?holding=npg&cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9484418&dopt=Abstract [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The IAAF is doing the very thing that Dick Pound > is criticizing- letting the athletes continue to > compete during an investigation!!! Obviously there > is a significant part of the world that doesn't have his > viewpoint, not just the U.S.! > > IAAF statement on Kelli White > Saturday 30 August 2003 > Paris - A sample provided by Kelli White, USA after the 100m Final in Paris has > tested positive for > Modafinil. The IAAF has not yet received the results of the analysis on her sample > provided after > the 200m Final. > > Today, we have received an explanation from the athlete to the following effect; Ms > White has been > taking the substance on prescription to treat a medical condition that runs in her > family. > > As both the nature of the substance and the content of her explanation require > further inquiry and > investigation, the IAAF has taken the view that bearing in mind the very serious > consequences for > the athlete of being suspended and being removed from competition at this late > stage, the most > appropriate course of action is to allow her to compete pending the completion of > the necessary > scientific and factual investigations. > > A press conference hosted by Senior Vice-President Arne Ljungqvist, will take place > at the Press > Conference Room at the Stade de France at 16:45 today.
Re: t-and-f: Now the spotlight is on Kelli White
If distinguishing between an organization that organizes the event and conducts the drug testing (IAAF), the organization that hands down drug rulings (USADA/WADA) and the organization that did none of the above in this case (USATF) is a distinction without a difference then I need to get Websters to redo their definition of "distinction". You made a sarcatsic comment about USATF and I pointed out that USATF essentially isn't even part of the issue here! The fact that were part of the issue with Slaney, Mitchell, Young, and others in the past does not change the fact that their rules changed THREE YEARS AGO! Get over it. Attack them for their decision not to go public with the Young info (something which obviously extended beyond the rule change) if you like, but don't just fire inaccurate shots indiscriminately. You have made some excellent points about drugs, Ben Johnson, inconsistent application of rules, etc, etc. But they are in danger of getting lost in the indiscriminate slamming that seems to pepper most of your posts. Attacks don't have any credibility if they aren't reasoned. - Ed Parrot > Arne said the same thing about the USATF. That is a distinction without a > difference. It astounds me just how sick some of these top level athletes are on > a regular basis. We have all those athletes with colds. Now we have an athlete > with asthma AND narcolepsy who apparently gained 17 pounds at age 27. It's a > wonder that some of them can even get out of bed in the morning let alone > perform at a world class level. There is, of course, a more insidious > explanation. Find a drug like this that isn't on the list: > > http://www.modafinil.org/ > > Scroll down that page. > > Come up with one of the diseases that it treats. If caught, plead stupidity and > count on getting off on a technicality. > > edndana wrote: > > > Martin - > > > > First, USATF isn't going to have the decision on her situation - she > > tested positive at an IAAF event. Even at a U.S. event, USATF would not be > > the ones ruling, it would be USADA. So, let's save the sarcastic references > > for a time when they are actually relevent. > >
Re: t-and-f: Now the spotlight is on Kelli White
Arne said the same thing about the USATF. That is a distinction without a difference. It astounds me just how sick some of these top level athletes are on a regular basis. We have all those athletes with colds. Now we have an athlete with asthma AND narcolepsy who apparently gained 17 pounds at age 27. It's a wonder that some of them can even get out of bed in the morning let alone perform at a world class level. There is, of course, a more insidious explanation. Find a drug like this that isn't on the list: http://www.modafinil.org/ Scroll down that page. Come up with one of the diseases that it treats. If caught, plead stupidity and count on getting off on a technicality. edndana wrote: > Martin - > > First, USATF isn't going to have the decision on her situation - she > tested positive at an IAAF event. Even at a U.S. event, USATF would not be > the ones ruling, it would be USADA. So, let's save the sarcastic references > for a time when they are actually relevent. > > Second, the IAAF said there is an excellent chance that this will be > treated as doping violation. Would YOU stay on the team knowing that - > whether you thought you were innocent or not - the IAAF has suggested you > probably will be found guilty? I would hope not. > > Third, I agree that not telling the IAAF about a substance one is taking > IS incredibly stupid. I don't know exactly what they asked her or what she > said regarding her medications, so I don't think we can castigate her for > this unless we know the specifics. A few snippets in press releases do not > constitute us knowing the facts. > > This is not to defend her - it sounds like she took a stimulant NOT on the > list of banned substances. If the wording of the doping rules are such that > this is not allowed, then she obviously should be punished. > > - Ed Parrot > > - Original Message - > From: "Martin J. Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 5:34 PM > Subject: Re: t-and-f: Now the spotlight is on Kelli White > > > If she is so confident that she is innocent, why did she withdraw from the > relay? I, on the other hand, > > have complete confidence in the USATF and that she will get off on some > kind of technicality and that > > not running the relay will, in hindsight, be seen as a mistake. Like Kelly > Guest, at the very least, > > she is guilty of incredible stupidity for not telling them about ALL of > her meds. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > The IAAF is doing the very thing that Dick Pound > > > is criticizing- letting the athletes continue to > > > compete during an investigation!!! Obviously there > > > is a significant part of the world that doesn't have his > > > viewpoint, not just the U.S.! > > > > >
Re: t-and-f: Now the spotlight is on Kelli White
Martin - First, USATF isn't going to have the decision on her situation - she tested positive at an IAAF event. Even at a U.S. event, USATF would not be the ones ruling, it would be USADA. So, let's save the sarcastic references for a time when they are actually relevent. Second, the IAAF said there is an excellent chance that this will be treated as doping violation. Would YOU stay on the team knowing that - whether you thought you were innocent or not - the IAAF has suggested you probably will be found guilty? I would hope not. Third, I agree that not telling the IAAF about a substance one is taking IS incredibly stupid. I don't know exactly what they asked her or what she said regarding her medications, so I don't think we can castigate her for this unless we know the specifics. A few snippets in press releases do not constitute us knowing the facts. This is not to defend her - it sounds like she took a stimulant NOT on the list of banned substances. If the wording of the doping rules are such that this is not allowed, then she obviously should be punished. - Ed Parrot - Original Message - From: "Martin J. Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 5:34 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Now the spotlight is on Kelli White > If she is so confident that she is innocent, why did she withdraw from the relay? I, on the other hand, > have complete confidence in the USATF and that she will get off on some kind of technicality and that > not running the relay will, in hindsight, be seen as a mistake. Like Kelly Guest, at the very least, > she is guilty of incredible stupidity for not telling them about ALL of her meds. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The IAAF is doing the very thing that Dick Pound > > is criticizing- letting the athletes continue to > > compete during an investigation!!! Obviously there > > is a significant part of the world that doesn't have his > > viewpoint, not just the U.S.! > > >
Re: t-and-f: Now the spotlight is on Kelli White
If she is so confident that she is innocent, why did she withdraw from the relay? I, on the other hand, have complete confidence in the USATF and that she will get off on some kind of technicality and that not running the relay will, in hindsight, be seen as a mistake. Like Kelly Guest, at the very least, she is guilty of incredible stupidity for not telling them about ALL of her meds. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The IAAF is doing the very thing that Dick Pound > is criticizing- letting the athletes continue to > compete during an investigation!!! Obviously there > is a significant part of the world that doesn't have his > viewpoint, not just the U.S.! >
