Re: t-and-f: "Athletics-World indoor championships to switch to even years"

2001-10-21 Thread koala

Sounds reasonable until you sit down with a calendar-
We'll see an outdoor World Championship in August '03,
followed by an indoor World Championship just seven
months later, in March '04.
Then nothing for 17 months, when the next outdoor
WC rolls around in August '05.  Then another indoor WC
just seven months later.

I think the IAAF missed the boat on this one.

It's not much better than what we have today- the two meets are
five months apart, followed by a 19-month hiatus.  The only
difference is that today both ends of that 'six month'
window happen to fall in the same calendar year.

I realize that you can't have them exactly twelve months
apart unless you do something like schedule an indoor
WC in August.
SAY, maybe that's not such a bad idea- we've always wondered
what the world's best athletes could do on an indoor 200m
banked track at the PEAK of their season, right?


RT



On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 00:33:14 -0500, you wrote:

>Athletics-World indoor championships to switch to even years
>
>MOSCOW, Oct 20 (Reuters) - The International Association of Athletics
>Federations (IAAF) has decided to ease the load on leading athletes by
>splitting the world indoor and outdoor championships into different years
>from 2004.
>
>"We have decided to spread it out and have the world indoor championships in
>even years and the world outdoor championships in odd years, starting from
>2004," IAAF president Lamine Diack told a news conference in Moscow on
>Saturday.
>
>Full article at:
>
>  http://sports.yahoo.com/m/sa/news/reuters/20011020/reu-world.html




t-and-f: "Athletics-World indoor championships to switch to even years"

2001-10-21 Thread Christopher Goss

Athletics-World indoor championships to switch to even years

MOSCOW, Oct 20 (Reuters) - The International Association of Athletics
Federations (IAAF) has decided to ease the load on leading athletes by
splitting the world indoor and outdoor championships into different years
from 2004.

"We have decided to spread it out and have the world indoor championships in
even years and the world outdoor championships in odd years, starting from
2004," IAAF president Lamine Diack told a news conference in Moscow on
Saturday.

Full article at:

  http://sports.yahoo.com/m/sa/news/reuters/20011020/reu-world.html




Re: t-and-f: Hash House runners cause Anthrax panic in CT

2001-10-21 Thread P.F.Talbot

Didn't read this article, but here in Boulder someone called up the police
thinking a powder hash mark might be anthrax.  I hope they don't freak out
on the first snowfall...


On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> see story at
>
> http://www.newstimes.com/cgi-bin/dbs.cgi?db=news&view_records=1&id=16459
>
> pretty ridiculous over-reaction, IMHO
>
> Jim Gerweck
> Running Times
>

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t-and-f: NCAA D-1 Women's win/loss records

2001-10-21 Thread Michael Scott

I have posted some minor updates to my weekly analysis, as well as a 
first pass at compiling win/loss records for NCAA D-1 Women's Teams. As 
always, everything can be found at:
 http://miscott.home.att.net/wxcanal/ 

Please pass along any & all corrections to me at this address.

Mike



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RE: t-and-f: Hash House runners cause Anthrax panic in CT

2001-10-21 Thread Paul Banta

The same thing happened here in Lake Oswego, Oregon.  The owner of the
tavern where the Hash House Harriers finished their run the night before
told the police it was flour used by the runners but they wouldn't
believe him.  The absence of common sense seems to go coast to coast.

Paul Banta


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see story at

http://www.newstimes.com/cgi-bin/dbs.cgi?db=news&view_records=1&id=16459

pretty ridiculous over-reaction, IMHO

Jim Gerweck
Running Times




t-and-f: Hash House runners cause Anthrax panic in CT

2001-10-21 Thread JimRTimes

see story at

http://www.newstimes.com/cgi-bin/dbs.cgi?db=news&view_records=1&id=16459

pretty ridiculous over-reaction, IMHO

Jim Gerweck
Running Times



t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: A Midnight Run: Closer to Ground Zero, Closer to the Truth

2001-10-21 Thread mjdixon

This article from NYTimes.com 
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"What are you, crazy?" my grandmother asked in her Italian way. "You're going for a 
run? At this hour? Are you crazy?" she repeated. "You're 38 years old. I thought you 
were an adult, a man, but no, you're a child. It's midnight and you're going for a run 
though the city. Are you crazy?"

I think she was unhappy with me.



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A Midnight Run: Closer to Ground Zero, Closer to the Truth

October 21, 2001 

By RANDY ACCETTA


A midnight run around the perimeter of ground zero provides
a close view of devastation of Sept. 11 that will linger in
the author's mind.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/21/sports/21RUNN.html?ex=1004696340&ei=1&en=d31a5e1853b2b0cf



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Re: t-and-f: Some advice for the fall trail-runners . . .

2001-10-21 Thread Trey Jackson

Some advice for Pennsylvania trail runners. and others in the east where
hunting season is beginning.

While we don't have grizzly bears to eat runners, we do have a lot of hunters in
the woods.  Deer season is now upon us and common sense should be the rule of the
day.

When running in Penn's woods, wear a blaze orange vest and/or hat.  Runners with
brown shirts and white gloves look very much like deer.  While hunters are supposed
to carefully identify before shooting, there is no reason for runners to be playing
chicken with someone with a loaded rifle.

More appropriately, limit trail running to parks and areas where hunting is not
allowed.  There are plenty of state, county, and municipal parks that do not allow
hunting at anytime.  If one insists on going in to the woods or along some of the
newly built rail trails, limit your runs to Sundays.  Hunting is not allowed on
Sunday in Pennsylvania.

Remember that State Game Lands were designed for and purchased for hunters and
hunting.  While I encourage multiple usage for such lands, it is prudent to leave
the land for it's intended use during hunting season.  While I hunt (this forum is
not a place to debate this, folks), I also run, bike, and appreciate the hunter's
right to use the Game Lands for it's purpose.  It is foolish for tragedies to occur
because of pride, vanity, or just plain ole stubbornness.

Trey Jackson
Assistant Track and Field Coach
Lebanon Valley College
Annville, PA

"Paul V. Tucknott" wrote:

> Some advice for the fall trail-runners . . .
>
> With the fall hiking season approaching, the Montana State Department
> of Fish and Wildlife is advising hikers, hunters, fisherman and
> golfers to take extra precautions and to be on the alert for bears while
> in the Gallatin, Helena and Lewis and Clark National Forests.
>
> They advise people to wear noise-producing devices such as little bells
> on their clothing to alert, but not startle, the bears unexpectedly.
> They also advise carrying pepper spray in case of an
> encounter with a bear. It is also a good idea to watch for signs of
> bear activity.
>
> People should be able to recognize the difference between black
> bear and grizzly bear droppings. Black bear droppings are smaller and
> contain berries and possibly squirrel fur.
>
> Grizzly bear droppings have bells in them and smell like pepper spray.




t-and-f: Some advice for the fall trail-runners . . .

2001-10-21 Thread Paul V. Tucknott

Some advice for the fall trail-runners . . .


With the fall hiking season approaching, the Montana State Department
of Fish and Wildlife is advising hikers, hunters, fisherman and
golfers to take extra precautions and to be on the alert for bears while
in the Gallatin, Helena and Lewis and Clark National Forests.

They advise people to wear noise-producing devices such as little bells
on their clothing to alert, but not startle, the bears unexpectedly.
They also advise carrying pepper spray in case of an
encounter with a bear. It is also a good idea to watch for signs of
bear activity.

People should be able to recognize the difference between black
bear and grizzly bear droppings. Black bear droppings are smaller and
contain berries and possibly squirrel fur.

Grizzly bear droppings have bells in them and smell like pepper spray.



Re: t-and-f: Athletes fighting their own battle on drugs

2001-10-21 Thread Ed Prytherch

Stimulants are an aid to sprinters. They have been taking them for decades.
Caffeine is a stimulant.
Inger got caught with a lot in her urine. Join the dots.
Ed.





Re: t-and-f: Athletes fighting their own battle on drugs

2001-10-21 Thread Dan Kaplan

Did you read what I said about research showing "a lot" of caffeine being
the exact opposite of a performance enhancer???  If that is truly the case
(and if it applies to sprinters, as well), then so what if she had it in
her system?  She had a lot of stuff in her body that is not banned,
including food, water, and blood, and some of it is of less benefit than
others.  If it cannot be shown that the level of caffeine she had in her
system was of benefit, then it should not be illegal.

What percent of the North American population would pass an IAAF test for
excessive caffeine?  Those would be some interesting dots to join...

Dan

--- Ed Prytherch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stimulants are an aid to sprinters. They have been taking them for
> decades.
> Caffeine is a stimulant.
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Re: t-and-f: Athletes fighting their own battle on drugs

2001-10-21 Thread Dan Kaplan

--- Ed Prytherch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But Inger Miller is not a distance runner.

Ah, but I never said she was (although I knew someone would make that
objection).  My point was not to say what events are benefitted by
caffeine, rather to point out that there is good reason to question if it
should even be banned in the first place, which would make all of this a
moot point.  Fred Finke posted in more detail on what is believed to be
the event duration required to derive benefit from caffeine.  Beyond that,
I believe expolosive events (which I think you will agree that Inger is
amongst ;-) are benefitted by caffeine in a way that may not be measurable
by raw performance factors -- its affect as an upper.  Caffeine is a key
ingredient in many of the weight lifting energy stack supplements, or
whatever they're calling them.

Dan

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> From: "Dan Kaplan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > I've mentioned from time to time that research of a few years back
> > (Running Research News from around '95) suggested that legal levels of
> > caffeine (the equivalent of up to 3 cups of coffee) could be quite
> > beneficial to mid-distance and distance performances, while illegal
> > levels (5+ cups) are actually detrimental to performance.
> >
> > I don't know if this has been looked into further or if it is accepted
> > as fact, but it certainly raises questions as to the purpose of
banning
> > high levels of caffeine.  Last I checked, food makes you faster, but
> > too much of it before a race slows you down...
> >
> > Dan


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t-and-f: caffiends

2001-10-21 Thread GHTFNedit

In a message dated Sun, 21 Oct 2001  1:03:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Ruth) writes:
>  How does caffiene get into the list of proscribed substances?>>
I can't state this as gospel, but I have been told that there are substances
that have been put on the banned list simply because they have begun to show
up in high concentrations and/or in many samples, during the course of
testing for other substances.
The rationale then goes like, "if they're all taking it, maybe it's an
illegal aid, so let's ban it."
gh




Re: t-and-f: Athletes fighting their own battle on drugs

2001-10-21 Thread Ed Prytherch

But Inger Miller is not a distance runner.
Ed
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> I've mentioned from time to time that research of a few years back
> (Running Research News from around '95) suggested that legal levels of
> caffeine (the equivalent of up to 3 cups of coffee) could be quite
> beneficial to mid-distance and distance performances, while illegal levels
> (5+ cups) are actually detrimental to performance.
>
> I don't know if this has been looked into further or if it is accepted as
> fact, but it certainly raises questions as to the purpose of banning high
> levels of caffeine.  Last I checked, food makes you faster, but too much
> of it before a race slows you down...
>
> Dan
>
> --- Roger Ruth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I realize that it is aside from the main thrust of this article, and I
> > realize that my question may be naive, but why would it matter that an
> > athlete tests positive for caffiene? I can't see that consuming a dozen
> > cups of coffee or a dozen cans of cola per day provides any advantage in
> > muscle-building, stamina, or anything else relevant to athletic
> > performance.
> >
> > How does caffiene get into the list of proscribed substances?
>
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RE: t-and-f: Athletes fighting their own battle on drugs

2001-10-21 Thread Fred Finke

Hi.  Fred Finke here.
Caffeine has been shown to be an aide supposedly because it allows for the
utilization of the free fatty acids in the blood as a source of energy
BEFORE going to the glycogen stores as a source of energy..  If true as the
study showed, this would allow for a longer period of time before you reach
glycogen depletion, therefore you run faster over a prescribed distance.
>From what I understand it is only beneficial in events longer than 2
minutes.  In Millers case, I fail to see how it would have been of any
benefit considering with her event she operates primarily in the area of the
atp/cp energy system.

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I've mentioned from time to time that research of a few years back
(Running Research News from around '95) suggested that legal levels of
caffeine (the equivalent of up to 3 cups of coffee) could be quite
beneficial to mid-distance and distance performances, while illegal levels
(5+ cups) are actually detrimental to performance.

I don't know if this has been looked into further or if it is accepted as
fact, but it certainly raises questions as to the purpose of banning high
levels of caffeine.  Last I checked, food makes you faster, but too much
of it before a race slows you down...

Dan

--- Roger Ruth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I realize that it is aside from the main thrust of this article, and I
> realize that my question may be naive, but why would it matter that an
> athlete tests positive for caffiene? I can't see that consuming a dozen
> cups of coffee or a dozen cans of cola per day provides any advantage in
> muscle-building, stamina, or anything else relevant to athletic
> performance.
>
> How does caffiene get into the list of proscribed substances?

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Re: t-and-f: Athletes fighting their own battle on drugs

2001-10-21 Thread Dan Kaplan

I've mentioned from time to time that research of a few years back
(Running Research News from around '95) suggested that legal levels of
caffeine (the equivalent of up to 3 cups of coffee) could be quite
beneficial to mid-distance and distance performances, while illegal levels
(5+ cups) are actually detrimental to performance.

I don't know if this has been looked into further or if it is accepted as
fact, but it certainly raises questions as to the purpose of banning high
levels of caffeine.  Last I checked, food makes you faster, but too much
of it before a race slows you down...

Dan

--- Roger Ruth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I realize that it is aside from the main thrust of this article, and I
> realize that my question may be naive, but why would it matter that an
> athlete tests positive for caffiene? I can't see that consuming a dozen
> cups of coffee or a dozen cans of cola per day provides any advantage in
> muscle-building, stamina, or anything else relevant to athletic
> performance.
> 
> How does caffiene get into the list of proscribed substances?

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