t-and-f: RK's Season

2001-01-17 Thread mmrohl
Netters

below is RK's season record I think I had seen two other races not listed here but what you have is 11 wins 12 losses over 5, 10, 20 and 50k. his only loss was to two russians at 10k one of whom was last years world champ the other was in the top 5 at the games.  It is especially note worthy that RK was considered a 50k specialist before this year.  In any case it's a great year for any athlete.  Remember too that no one ever thought anyone would win the 2050 in one Olympics. On like MJ's double which required considerable changes to the schedule RK did his on the normal schedule.  It was akin to Zatopek's feet.


Feb 13	POL Ch.	Spala	5000m 	1st	19:00.53

Feb 19	FRA Ch.  	Liévin	5000m	1st	18:53.71

Mar 5	Ponte de Sôr			50km	1st	3:41:50

May 7	Villeneuve d'Ascq	5000m	1st	19:16.30

Jun 3	Kraków			10km	3rd	38:48
(1 Ilya Markov 38:42, 2 Vladimir Andreyev 38:47)

Jun 10	Spala	5000m	1st		18:48.92

Jul 17 Eur Cup Eisenhüttenstadt	20km	1st	18:18.29

Jun 24	Warsaw		5000m	1st	19:02.88

Jul 9 	Hildesheim			20km	1st	1:18:22

Aug 5	POL Ch	Kraków	20km	1st	1:20:52

Sep 22	OG Sydney			20km	1st	1:18:59

Sep 29	OGSydney			50km	1st	3:42:22



Re: t-and-f: RK's Season

2001-01-17 Thread Ryan Grote



I dunno...long time no post. Have not even 
looked at these ratings or read everybody's rants about them, but regarding the 
RK fella, one big difference with him and Zatopek is that Zatopek RAN. 
Running is running, racewalking is a bit contrived at the very least. So, 
I say do the apples to apples thing, in which case there are lots of 18-19 
minute 5k folks (men and women) who are not world ranked, so the RK fella should 
be thankful. 
Grote
adiRP


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  Subject: t-and-f: RK's Season
  Netters below is RK's season record I think I had seen 
  two other races not listed here but what you have is 11 wins 12 losses over 5, 
  10, 20 and 50k. his only loss was to two russians at 10k one of whom was last 
  years world champ the other was in the top 5 at the games. It is especially 
  note worthy that RK was considered a 50k specialist before this year. In any 
  case it's a great year for any athlete. Remember too that no one ever thought 
  anyone would win the 2050 in one Olympics. On like MJ's double which 
  required considerable changes to the schedule RK did his on the normal 
  schedule. It was akin to Zatopek's feet. Feb 13 POL Ch. Spala 
  5000m 1st 19:00.53Feb 19 FRA Ch. Liévin 5000m 1st 18:53.71Mar 
  5 Ponte de Sôr 50km 1st 3:41:50May 7 Villeneuve d'Ascq 5000m 1st 
  19:16.30Jun 3 Kraków 10km 3rd 38:48(1 Ilya Markov 38:42, 2 
  Vladimir Andreyev 38:47)Jun 10 Spala 5000m 1st 18:48.92Jul 17 
  Eur Cup Eisenhüttenstadt 20km 1st 18:18.29Jun 24 Warsaw 5000m 1st 
  19:02.88Jul 9 Hildesheim 20km 1st 1:18:22Aug 5 POL Ch Kraków 
  20km 1st 1:20:52Sep 22 OG Sydney 20km 1st 1:18:59Sep 29 
  OGSydney 50km 1st 3:42:22


Re: t-and-f: RK's Season

2001-01-17 Thread Randall Northam

on 17/1/01 8:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  RK did his on the normal schedule.  It was akin to Zatopek's feet.
Alright. I give in.
Randall Northam




Re: t-and-f: RK's Season

2001-01-17 Thread mmrohl

Netters

Ryan, normally witty, and informed came up with this one liner:

So, I say do the apples to apples thing, in which case there are 
lots of 18-19 minute 5k folks (men and women)
 who are not world ranked, so the RK fella should be thankful.  

Ryan, by the light, I hope you are joking because this has to be the 
second most stupid thing I have ever seen written about the walks.  
Right behind that horse's but's, P.N. from New Zealand who thought it 
would be ok to try to relegate what he doesn't like to an Island.

On the upside I think Conway's essay on the founding fathers of the 
rankings was the best so far in the discussion.  I know GH said he wasn't 
going to write any more about this but I would like to see a response to 
that because it seems that Conway has crystallized the point of the 
discussion at the same time pinning down the defenders of the rankings.
The horse isn't dead yet I'd like to see an expansion from what Conway 
wrote.