t-and-f: Athletes told to avoid supplements

2000-12-13 Thread FranciCash

Athletes told to avoid supplements
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/other_sports/newsid_1067000/1067428.stm

Johan Koss is taking a hard line over failed drug tests
Athletes who test positive for banned substances after taking supplements
have been warned they have only themselves to blame.
Former Olympic speedskating gold medallist Johan Koss told an IOC commission
in Lausanne that supplements were not helpful to healthy competitors.
A member of the IOC's athletes' commission and a spokesman for the World
Anti-Doping Agency, he said: "It is totally unnecessary to take them.
"They certainly give the opportunity for a positive sample. Why should they
use this, so-called healthy athletes?
"Recent findings show that supplements may contain drugs that will cause
athletes to test positive for substances that are currently on the banned
list.
No-nonsense
"We as a commission fully endorse that athletes must take full
responsibility for all drugs that are found in their bodies due to the use
of nutritional supplements."
The IOC's no-nonsense stance will be a bitter blow for athletes who are
fighting positive doping tests, claiming they failed because of the
supplements they were taking.
Most cases involve the steroid nandrolone.
Koss added: "I don't want to go into current outstanding cases. Rather let
us look to the future."
Part of the problem has been caused by inconsistent labelling on food
supplements, many of which are made in the United States.
The IOC and the US Food and Drugs Administration have been in talks to try
and improve the labelling of such products so athletes can see clearly what
is in them.






t-and-f: Foot Locker TV

2000-12-13 Thread WMurphy25

The Foot Locker H.S. XC Championships will be shown on ESPN tomorrow 
(Thursday) at 1pm(EST) and on Dec.17 at 1:30am(EST). It will also air on 
Dec.27 as part of the Scholastic Sports America show on ESPN...time is 
uncertain at this point. Toni Reavis, Ed Eyestone and Deena Drossin are the 
announcers.

Walt Murphy



t-and-f: collegiate schedule

2000-12-13 Thread Tom Borish

Does anyone out there know of a composite indoor collegiate schedule on the 
web anywhere?  I would imagine one not to be completed until January, 
however I have not seen one yet.

Thanks,

Tom Borish
www.mactrack.net





t-and-f: Kent Winter Open summary and results

2000-12-13 Thread Bob Ramsak

Hi all,
An article from yesterday's OHIO Track  Running Report on last Saturday's Kent
Winter open is now posted on www.trackprofile.com .   Highlights include a new
MAC 5000 record by Toledo frosh Tuula Laitinen (16:25.13) and plenty of auto and
provisional qualifying D2 marks.

Enjoy!
---
|  Bob Ramsak
|   TRACK PROFILE/OHIO Track  Running Report
|   http://www.trackprofile.com
|   Cleveland, Ohio USA
|   [EMAIL PROTECTED]




t-and-f: Anselm Lebourne not U.S. citizen?

2000-12-13 Thread TrackCEO

Greetings, all:

Among the many interesting nuggets  found in Suzy Hess' minutes of the USATF 
Masters TF meetings in Albuquerque:

Suzy writes: "(Records czar) Pete Mundle advised that the records in the 
annual report were  amended to include new marks, misspellings, changes in 
dates. Mundle reported that Anselm LaBourne is possibly a Haitian citizen."

This is weird. Anselm competed for the United States at the 1999 world WAVA 
meet in Gateshead and won the M40 1500.  He also won a USATF Masters Runner 
of the Year award in 1999 for his age-group. At no time before, during or 
immediately after the meet (or during the honors committee meeting) did I 
hear anyone challenge Anselm's official nationality.  Why now?

Suzy also writes: "Graeme Shirley proposed, and the committee agreed, to 
adopt all WAVA standards for USA competitions, including the 27" hurdle 
standard, and the 500-700 gm javelin."

This is interesting. I noted a year ago (see 
http://www.egroups.com/message/masterstf/1429) how the USATF Masters TF 
Committee balked at going along with the lower hurdle heights for older age 
groups for a variety of reasons, mostly the cost to meet directors of buying 
a complete set of hurdles that go lower than 30 inches (widely available in 
Europe but not so easily found in USA).  So what caused the turn-around? More 
important, will USATF be informed of the new hurdle heights (and spacings) so 
the next USATF rulebook doesn't leave out important information as it has in 
the past?

Suzy writes: "The executive committee approved establishing a committee on 
the drug issue. This group will be chaired by Rose Monday. Kathy Jager 
volunteered to be on the committee."

This is curious, since Suzy earlier wrote: " (Ken) Weinbel stated that USATF 
is not in the drug testing business for  masters. USATF addressed the problem 
of our positive drug test and  forwarded the problem to the IAAF, and IAAF 
passed it to WAVA. We will establish a small committee to lobby with WAVA. 
Rose Monday will act as  drug-policy liaison with WAVA and will chair this 
committee."

This means that Kathy Jager will sit on a committee lobbying WAVA over Kathy 
Jager -- presumably her attempt to receive early reinstatement from her 
2-year drug ban after testing positive for a minute amount of syntehtic 
testosterone that was part of her doctor-prescribed hormone-replacement 
therapy for symptoms of menopause.  Kathy certainly should be able to give 
input on the general issue of masters and doping rules, but she shouldn't be 
on an official committee that deals with her own case.  Just doesn't appear 
kosher, from a conflict-of-interest standpoint.

Ken Stone
http://www.masterstrack.com








t-and-f: Great athletes are not simply born great - Coe

2000-12-13 Thread Eamonn Condon

The Electronic Telegraph
Wednesday 13 December 2000



Putting the gene genie back in the bottle
By Sebastian Coe

CHANNEL 4 recently charted the shark-infested waters of political
correctness and emerged intact. It has often been the graveyard of eminent
scientists, Sir Roger Bannister included, when consideration has been given
to sporting prowess and race. Channel 4 attempted to identify genetic
advantages that might account for the dominance of Kenyan middle and
long-distance runners, since they first emerged on the world stage at the
Mexico Olympic Games in 1968.

I found it interesting, not only because for the bulk of my career Kenya's
finest, namely the Kalengin people, were chasing the same spoils as I was,
but because it also left deeper questions about the philosophy of
competition.

Because in the past there has been so much doctrinairism and on occasions
deliberate misunderstanding when there has been any discussion of ethnic
differences in whatever field of activity they arise, Channel 4 did well to
concentrate on the science and leave the sociologists and the rag-bag of
interest groups out of the debate.

Is there, they asked, any genetic inheritance of specific physiological
potential that can be clearly identified and separated from socio-economic
and environmental conditioning?

These last two factors will always play a significant part in the making of
an athlete, but they must be kept quite separate in any study searching for
a true genetic difference. In poorer Third World countries the large sums of
money available from success on athletics' grand prix circuit is an
extremely powerful motivator.

There are other important factors to be taken into account. It is quite easy
to misunderstand athletics in Kenya; although it is a relatively poor
country with limited financial resources for sport, it would be a serious
mistake to think of Kenyan athletes succeeding on physical superiority
alone. The Kenyan Federation have created a development programme at all
levels, including the schools, which over the years has led to some very
sophisticated coaching. This is something of which they are justifiably
proud and an area from which we might learn. If your environment and
economic circumstances leads to a walking and running lifestyle - Kenyan
youngsters, particularly the Kalengin, run upwards of 10 miles a day to and
from school - then it is not unnatural that you might want to exhibit your
prowess by showing how well you can do it and in Kenya there has been a rich
supply of successful role models.

All this has to be stripped away before assessing any actual genetic
superiority, the evidence for which might finally rest with the exercise
physiologist.

But what of genetic superiority and does it exist? Even if it were possible
it would still be a morally unacceptable, if simple experiment, to
transplant a significant test population of the Kalengin. They would have to
live and cope with a soft Western European lifestyle away from their
traditional healthy, high- energy diet and without marrying outside their
own racial group. We could then see if and how long an inherited genetic
advantage survived - an advantage of enhanced aerobic capacity derived from
millennia of living and working at high altitude.

But there are other considerations too. Like those of overall mechanical and
biological efficiency; the biomechanical advantages derived from different
body dimensions. The length of the leg and the relative lengths of the upper
and lower parts of the leg, the positions of the attachments of the muscles
around the joints of their prime movers, could also be very important. Would
one gene cover it all or would researchers be looking for additional genes?

This is all very interesting, but we must ask whether, if any ethnic group
holds a significant genetic athletic superiority, is it of any practical
significance for athletes and athletics? I think not.

In sport the athlete is always left with the same options. Great athletes
are not simply born great. No one is born a great anything. A baby may have
a unique genetic inheritance that could greatly favour a particular activity
but that is only a potential advantage, it does not exist as an actual
accomplishment. To turn this potential into an actual ability will require
the application of much study and practice, be the subject a budding athlete
or musician.

In short, great athletes are not born, they are made. They are a complex mix
of genetics, environment, an indomitable will to win, often a sacrificial
lifestyle, an excellent coach and if they are to be long-lasting, an
obsession with consistency.

When I started in athletics I was frequently told that I was too short to be
a miler. I broke the world record three times. Later this changed to `I
could not compete successfully against athletes who used performance
enhancing drugs'. But it must have happened. The choice has always been the
same; in reality you can either quit in moral 

Re: t-and-f: Great athletes are not simply born great - Coe

2000-12-13 Thread Dgs1170
This topic and article make me think. What is the fascination with downplaying something so elementary, as genetic makeup? We are easy to accept that genetics make up our person, but are reluctant to realize that this same "fact" does dictate some given advantages in life. A 3 year old that can sit and play the piano, was born that way, he was blessed with a gift. Speed, and endurance are no different. We have our gifts, some are more gifted than others, in varying arenas. Our world is track where speed and endurance and strength are the gifts we live with. This is not to say that it is the only factor or variable, but it is to say it is a factor. Genetic predisposition is not evil, nor is it to be dispelled, it is a fact of life.
Yes, I think there is a group of people predisposed at birth to run farther faster, just as I believe there is a group of people that are on average taller than everyone else. We are arguing against something that cannot be disproved, it is nature, and some of us need to face that. You are not going to train the average Joe to run 9.79, ever!

DGS
The G.O.A.T.


Re: t-and-f: Re: German women + records

2000-12-13 Thread Dgs1170
1) Can someone define this post for me, it is gibberish!
2) Tainted records is not a joke but a documented fact. The German regime is not a rumor any longer, but has been proven and admitted to. 

As for your tangent concerning training techniques, as a sprint coach I do not know what you are talking about. As a matter of fact, most sprint coaches I know believe in short distance, specific training. But we can explore the benefits of training techniques in Edmonton, Paris, and Athens over the next 4 years.

DGS
The G.O.A.T.


t-and-f: Kansas State All-comers Indoor Results Dec 8

2000-12-13 Thread Phil Weishaar



Results from this past weekends All-comers meet at 
Manhattan can be found at

www.k-statesports.com/track/stats/2001/IN-2000AllComers.html

phil weishaar
chapman kansas