Re: [Tagging] on the name of a tag for landcover

2012-08-17 Thread John F. Eldredge
Philip Barnes  wrote:

> On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 16:11 -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, if animals are intended to graze on the grass, if the grass
> will be harvested for use as 
> >fodder (what my earlier message termed a hay field), or if sod will
> subsequently be transplanted 
> >elsewhere (a sod farm), then the grass is being grown as a crop, and
> >landuse=grass is appropriate.
> > 
> Turf is probably a more appropriate word, sod is likely to be pulled
> by
> various filters as it is a minor swear word.
> 
> Phil
> 

This is one of the dialect differences between American English and British 
English.  In American usage, "sod" means grass plants.  Replanting grass on a 
bare section of ground is termed resodding, and facilities that grow grass to 
be transplanted, roots, dirt, and all, are termed sod farms.   British speech 
sometimes uses the "grass" meaning of sod, from what I read, as in Irishmen 
referring to their homeland as "the old sod", as well as the perjorative usage 
of sod to mean sodomite.

-- 
John F. Eldredge --  j...@jfeldredge.com
"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to 
think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

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Re: [Tagging] on the name of a tag for landcover

2012-08-17 Thread Philip Barnes
On Mon, 2012-08-13 at 16:11 -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> 
> Yes, if animals are intended to graze on the grass, if the grass will be 
> harvested for use as 
>fodder (what my earlier message termed a hay field), or if sod will 
>subsequently be transplanted 
>elsewhere (a sod farm), then the grass is being grown as a crop, and
>landuse=grass is appropriate.
> 
Turf is probably a more appropriate word, sod is likely to be pulled by
various filters as it is a minor swear word.

Phil


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Re: [Tagging] "landuse=residential" in rural areas

2012-08-17 Thread David ``Smith''
As others have said, I usually tag the entire parcel, as long as it's not
used for farming.  I'd somewhat like a way to tag low-density rural
residential land-use, but as it is I think the absence of a thick network
of residential streets is a decent clue that one isn't looking at a
built-up area.
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Re: [Tagging] "landuse=residential" in rural areas

2012-08-17 Thread Greg Troxel

In built-up areas, almost all land is used.

  straightfoward; but in the countryside houses often have large grounds
  attached to them, and even fields.  In particular there are quite a few

I think the question is if the lot that the house is on (assuming lots
in England work like lots in the US, since we probably took your way of
doing it a while ago :-) is mostly used to contain the house and for
what might be called household purposes, or if it's a house with a farm
and there's a farming business.

In my area, many house lots are 1.5 acres, and some more, and often have
woods (area of trees, unmanaged).  I have only tagged more recent
subdivisions (which are quite striking in pattern on imagery, with
obvious borders), and not older lots.

My take would be that the entire lot on which a house sits should be
landuse=residential, as long as there isn't an ancilliary farming
business.



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Re: [Tagging] "landuse=residential" in rural areas

2012-08-17 Thread John Sturdy
I'd include houses' gardens in the "residential land use area"
associated with the houses --- if they're large rural gardens, it
helps to distinguish them from fields.

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[Tagging] "landuse=residential" in rural areas

2012-08-17 Thread David Fisher
Hi all,

I'm currently entering some survey data from my summer holiday (in rural
England).  Living in a city, tagging "landuse=residential" is
straightfoward; but in the countryside houses often have large grounds
attached to them, and even fields.  In particular there are quite a few
rows of houses following a highway, which have enormous
gardens/grounds/fields behind them.  I can see the logic of
"abutters=residential" for this, but I understand that this has been
deprecated.

So how should "landuse=residential" be applied in these circumstances?
Intuitively I'd like to just use it around the immediate environs of the
houses (to include e.g. any kitchen-garden, garage, outbuildings etc),
since tagging the whole lot (grounds and all) as landuse=residential would
(to me) imply a large built-up area which does not actually exist.  But I
realise I'm running the risk of "tagging-for-the-renderer" accusations here
;-)

I've read this previous thread [1] and the associated wiki page, but it
seems to be concerned with urban areas and small plots of land, whereas I'm
talking about much larger areas in rural settings.  Maybe this doesn't
matter, though... what do people think?

Thanks in advance,

David (user Pgd81).

[1] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2011-May/007700.html
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