Re: [Tagging] Childcare Tag
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: On Fri, 2013-07-19 at 11:04 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Pubs that are over foodie, tables laid etc, should in my opinion be tagged as restaurants. Those have lost their primary focus as a place to go for a drink, to meet people and to network. Or possibly as gastropubs, since they're still (at least slightly) a distinct kind of establishment, and that's a term that's commonly used to refer to them. Also, they still look like pubs on the outside. __John ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Are addresses features or attributes?
On 19 July 2013 18:42, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Forking the discussion from Double and misfitting house numbers On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: Not for me. I think the address is a feature by ifself, not an attribute of other features (like 'name'). I want to know what do people think about addresses. 1. Are addresses features as Pieren suggests? Thus addresses should be mapped separately or at least tagged singularly on the primary object that represents the address. 2. Or are addresses attributes (like names) of POIs, buildings, and the like? In which case, it would be OK if many POIs are mapped with the same addr:housenumbers. In my opinion addresses are independent map features in their own right. Please have a look at this proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Provides_feature on how one can associate the same address node with multiple POIs. /Markus ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Are addresses features or attributes?
On 19.07.2013 18:42, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: I want to know what do people think about addresses. 1. Are addresses features as Pieren suggests? Thus addresses should be mapped separately or at least tagged singularly on the primary object that represents the address. 2. Or are addresses attributes (like names) of POIs, buildings, and the like? In which case, it would be OK if many POIs are mapped with the same addr:housenumbers. Adresses are attributes of physical objects, e.g. a parcel, a house, or a part of a house. The only exception I know are PO boxes which may not be attributes of physical objects, but attributes of organisations. There are no addresses for their own sake, because they wouldn't make any sense. They are just pipe dreams. Nobody will ever find a real-world example. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Are addresses features or attributes?
On 19.07.2013 19:43, Elliott Plack wrote: For example: a vacant lot often has an address, but there doesn't need to be a building there. In this case, the address is an attribute of the parcel, the piece of land. It's an attribute anyway. Also some shopping centers have multiple addresses for the same building, so we make address points for each entrance or centroid. Multiple addresses are just multiple attributes, so what? It's the same with multiple names. See my proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Multiple_addresses for how I think that multiple adresses on the same object should be mapped. If you tag each address on an entrance, this makes the address an attribute of that entrance. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Are addresses features or attributes?
On 19.07.2013 19:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: they are both. If you investigated the situation and you are sure that you can provide a good estimate for a polygon describing an address I'd say that's preferable and you don't have to add address duplicates to all features inside this polygon, but mappers should also enter addresses on nodes when they are not able or willing to investigate further to get this polygon. In this case also 2 and more POIs sharing the same address should each get their own set. I agree with that, except for the first sentence. Mapping an address as a standalone node is better than not mapping it at all, but that does not make it a feature. It's just like creating a node with name=* and nothing else. -- Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging