Re: [Tagging] Self serve and full serve gas stations
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:02 PM, John Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: From my experience in the USA, prepay is only available by going inside and paying the clerk. If it turns out you didn't have enough room in your fuel tank for the amount you prepaid for, you go inside a second time and get a refund. The majority of self-service stations now require that you either pay at the pump with a card, or come inside and prepay if you will be using cash, because of people pumping fuel and then driving away without paying. Yeah, Kum Go http://www.kumandgo.com/, as a chain, seems to be very unique in dispensing gas on the honor system, and could be idiosyncratic to the region, in allowing pumps to start with the press of a button and no other input; usually it's some one-off Sinclair or Exxon franchises that are slow and rural enough to provide self and mini service on the same island at the same price, often using older equipment incapable of accepting payment at the pump. QuikTrip will allow this, but they issue a QuikStart card (that they only advertise in 10 point font on a sticker on the front of the pump along with the rest of the fine print like how much to expect a credit hold to be and the maximum amount dispensed per card sale) so they know who turned on the pump before driving off without paying. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: On Wed, 2015-06-10 at 18:07 +0100, Craig Wallace wrote: Why does everything have to be a 'station'? A station is a place where trains stop, not where you plug your phone in. Plus it makes the tag unnecessarily verbose, and more prone to errors. Simpler to just tag amenity=device_charging +1 or if a subtag on an device_charging=yes/mains/usb. I would expect an available mains socket is the norm, a USB socket is rather fragile for public use. Yet, I still find these in fairly public places; when I'm traveling, I'll carry a USB cable that has no data leads for the purpose of charging, just in case I did something stupid like leave USB debugging on, as juice jacking http://www.howtogeek.com/166497/htg-explains-what-is-juice-jacking-and-how-worried-should-you-be/ is a thing that exists. I'm not trusting of using someone else's cable to connect to power, so if I can't use my own data-free USB cable for the task, nope... ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Airport power and USB stations
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: One could tag every power outlet that seems to be in a public space. For many years I charged my laptop at airports by finding the places the cleaning crew plugged in their vacuum cleaners. But that sort of accidental charging station is of a different character to a designated place. Why? A random outlet is unlikely to be well positioned, maintained or universally usable for device charging. People are free to map those outlets, but rendering should be able to choose if they are included. I don't see these as the same feature at all. Before it became disallowed, I used to carry a flathead screwdriver (or multitool) for this task, as many floor mounted, and sometimes wall mounted, outlets are covered by a device designed to protect it from foot or cart traffic when not in use. Now that such devices are disallowed from many public spaces where you're likely to be stuck busy waiting forever, I've found a quarter, dime or the head of a key often gets the job done... ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Reception Desk.
sent from a phone Am 17.06.2015 um 03:18 schrieb Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com: Response; a) OSM already has furniture. It exists and is of use. It should be mapped. agree that who wants could map furniture as well, but that would not be amenity and I would not care about such a tag and it would not be the main tag for the reception function b) One could then map a very large area .. including the waiting area, the entire building? What is needed is the small area where you go to get access/information. it can be easily decided by the mapper what makes most sense for the actual situation c) And there was a dog_bin in use in OSM too.. one could assume that it is for dead dogs? The present reception_area use is all on nodes, no areas at all. There are less than 110 uses of it. There is no documentation for it. One of the tag is for a building .. on a node. there are more than 30 times reception_area tags compared to reception_desk, but both numbers are low d) I personally know of two places where the reception is a long way from the main entrance (Australia). Someone else also know of a reception a long way from the main entrance (Africa I think). So not always at the main entry, and in that situation mapping it is very usefull. +1, if someone thinks a tag is not needed he should not vote, because voting is about a concrete tag and which tag is best to describe something cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] README tag with editor support
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: so i have two things in mind here: 1) formalize the README tag as a way to caution future mappers 2) request editor support, when someone goes to change a README tagged entity, it would be nice if editors would popup a dialog saying something along the lines of Warning: read the following before making any changes to this object README text follows other suggestions that have been made have included trying to make the dates on which imagery was collected more obvious, adding warnings when edits are newer than available imagery (or newer than the imagery layer currently being displayed), and pressing to get more current imagery into place. does anyone have any thoughts on how to approach this? Sounds like a cross between why OSMBugs was named Notes when it was integrated into OSM, combined with a need for better tracking of categories of notes, which is something I rather liked from Mapdust. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
