Re: [Tagging] depreciate recycling:metal in favor of recycling:scrap_metal

2020-01-02 Thread Andy Townsend

On 31/12/2019 15:27, Volker Schmidt wrote:
What's the difference between "metal" and "scrap metal". I would have 
thought any metal can be recycled (if the rightful owner is OK with that).

What am I missing?

It depends on the context I suspect.  If we're describing bins at the 
local tip, then the terms may well be pretty much synonymous. If you 
move a bit further up the value chain though there's definitely a 
difference - a company that is a steel stockholder may well be involved 
with recycling metals but will probably bristle at being described as a 
"scrap metal merchant"!


Any attempt to deprecate values is probably a bad idea.  If you look at 
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=recycling etc. you can see 
that there's quite a lot of overlap between values, but I wouldn't worry 
about it.


Best Regards,

Andy



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Re: [Tagging] depreciate recycling:metal in favor of recycling:scrap_metal

2020-01-02 Thread Markus
On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 22:35, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:
>
> then my suggestion would be the deprecation of scrap_metal in favor of metal. 
> I could imagine though that the term scrap metal was introduced to 
> distinguish it from other kinds of metal collection, like e.g. aluminum cans 
> or aluminum foil
> so for me it seems plausible to have different tags for metal recycling, 
> generally.

I can't see a difference between recycling:scrap_metal and
recycling:metal. If a distinction was intended, then a more clear tag
should have been chosen (e.g. recycling:iron or
recycling:magnetic_metal). Actually i would have preferred
recycling:metal (the additional scrap_ is unnecessary), but as
recycling:scrap_metal has been used nine times more often, it seems
sensible to deprecate it instead.

As for more specific metal recycling: some recycling containers for
tin and aluminum cans also accept small metal items like screws, nails
or chains. Maybe it makes sense to tag this. But how? Using
recycling:scrap_metal (or recycling:metal) would likely make people
wrongly assume that they can also dispose of larger pieces of metal
there (e.g. pots, pans, metal shelves or bicycle frames). What about
recycling:small_metal_items?

By the way, am i right that recycling:cans is for both tin and
aluminium cans (and thus implies recycling:aluminium)? Or is it only
for tin cans?

Wishing everyone a happy new year!

Best regards

Markus

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