Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Food sharing

[Markus Peloso]

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/food_sharing
A shelf/box/fridge where people drop off and pick up food in the sense of free 
sharing and/or to reduce food waste.

Hi

I have made some changes in the proposal of amenity=food_sharing to give more 
clarity about what you can expect in this facility. I want to start voting in a 
few days.

Does anyone have any additions or comments?

Best regards

Markus (ToastHawaii)

Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar@outlook.com>
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Hi Hauke

Thank you for your inputs (and warnings ;) ). Free choice is important to me.

I added the covered=* tag to the list. And add contact:* as a possible 
combination.

I see the list of combinations more as a suggestion/inspiration, so that useful 
(or preferred) combinations can always be added to the POIs without being on 
the list.

Best regards, Markus

Von: Hauke Stieler<mailto:m...@hauke-stieler.de>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2020 19:41
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Hi,

sometimes people just use boxes or the basket of an old bicycle for food
sharing purposes. Because they are usually not inside a building or
something, I would add the "covered=*" tag to your list.

I also would use the "contact:*" keys (for the website, facebook, other
social media channels, etc.). The "contact:facebook" key is also used
more often and I personally like the contact scheme. Some boxed may also
have other contact options (email, phone, instagram, twitter, ...). I
know the whole contact-scheme-thing might end up in a large discussion,
but I just wanted to mention it.

But the general proposal looks good, the tagging is simple and
everything is straight forward :)

Hauke

On 26.02.20 09:47, Markus Peloso wrote:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/food_sharing
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>
>
> «A shelf/box/fridge where people drop off and pick up food in the sense
> of free sharing and/or to reduce food waste.»
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> I added the current proposal for food sharing I made to the wiki.
>
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>
> What do you think about it?
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> Best regards
>
> Markus
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - give box

[Markus Peloso]

Hi

1.
The name is still something that bothers me. Clarity and transparency are 
importent for me.
I now understand that the name (and the description) of the feature must be 
very clear, easy to understand and general so that it can be used in different 
countries for similar concepts.

Thanks for the hint with ranked-choice voting, I am thinking about how we could 
implement this in OSM wiki. I'm open to suggestions.

2.
Currently I want to give more time for the Proposed features/food sharing.

I never seen a hiker box in the wild, I do not know if there is a similar thing 
in Switzerland. I can't say much about the nature of this thing. Based on the 
description, I would prefer to map them as a separate node, as we do with 
public bookcases located in a building. So we can add information on how Pepole 
can find them and other infos ("level=*", "description=*", "wheelchair=*"). I 
also not see the relation between a post office, shop, hotel or campsite and a 
hiker box. Are these places specialized for hikers?
As I have never seen a hiker box, I do not want to make a proposal of my own. 
But I would remove the amenity=give_box + hiking=yes from the description, like 
the public_bookcase, when someone makes a proposal.

As I understand, "blessing boxes" are more about food like a free pantry.
I agree I also think this is not a good name for this proposal.

Markus
Von: Philip Barnes<mailto:p...@trigpoint.me.uk>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. März 2020 18:54
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On Sun, 2020-03-15 at 12:42 -0400, Jmapb via Tagging wrote:
On 3/15/2020 6:18 AM, Markus Peloso wrote:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box

A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in 
the sense of free sharing.

Hi
After "Clarify whatever explicit abstaining is the same as no vote" and the 
change of the Proposal process page I reopen the voting, maybe someone wants to 
change their vote or add a comment.

In the meantime we have got some new inputs:

Summary
- We hade discuss about give box, hiker box, public refrigerator, free pantry 
and food sharing and how this things could be documented in OpenStreetMap. 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/food_sharing#Arguments_and_comments_from_the_Tagging_.5BPublic_refrigerators.5D_E-Mails
- New Proposed feature "food sharing" 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/food_sharing
- New Proposed feature "donation of goods" 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/donation_of_goods
- Some mappers tag blessing boxes with new amenity=give_box tag 
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/RAA


Thanks for your patience and perseverance, Markus!

It's clear that give boxes will be approved as a feature. The only remaining 
questions I see are:

1. What's the best tag for them? (Some people don't like "give_box" -- maybe an 
opportunity to experiment with ranked-choice voting?)

2. What related amenities are distinct enough that they deserve their own 
separate tags?
 - Public bookcase, obviously.
 - Separating the food sharing amenities seems like a good idea. I'd be in 
favor of a single tag to which refrigerated=yes could be added to indicate a 
public refrigerator.
 - I like the idea of a separate tag for hiker boxes, because (as I mentioned 
in the public refrigerator thread) it's very common to have them as part of 
another map feature like post office, shop, hotel, or campsite, so simply being 
able to add hiker_box=yes would be great.
 - I've never heard the term "blessing box" before but it seems like they'd 
best be classified as either food sharing or give box, depending on the 
inventory.
Blessing box sounds like some something religious to me, so not a good term for 
this proposal.

Phil (trigpoint)

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - give box

[Markus Peloso]

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box

A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in 
the sense of free sharing.

Hi
After "Clarify whatever explicit abstaining is the same as no vote" and the 
change of the Proposal process page I reopen the voting, maybe someone wants to 
change their vote or add a comment.

In the meantime we have got some new inputs:

Summary
- We hade discuss about give box, hiker box, public refrigerator, free pantry 
and food sharing and how this things could be documented in OpenStreetMap. 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/food_sharing#Arguments_and_comments_from_the_Tagging_.5BPublic_refrigerators.5D_E-Mails
- New Proposed feature "food sharing" 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/food_sharing
- New Proposed feature "donation of goods" 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/donation_of_goods
- Some mappers tag blessing boxes with new amenity=give_box tag 
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/RAA

Best regards
Markus (ToastHawaii)
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

[Markus Peloso]

Hello

As a result of the discussion, I have changed the name from "donation in kind" 
to "donation of goods". "donation of goods" is easier to understand and is more 
specific for a place you can give physical things as donation.

If there are no more comments, I will start voting in a few days.

Best regards
Markus
Von: Martin Koppenhoefer
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. Februar 2020 12:00
An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

Am Mi., 19. Feb. 2020 um 23:50 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg 
mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>>:
My concern is still that it might be hard to translate "donation in
kind" from English into some languages, and that people with limited
English vocabulary might not understand the phrase.

Automated translations by Google from "donation in kind" gets this:

I got the same with deepl.com (for French, German, Spanish, 
Dutch)



German: "Sachspende"


is a precise and accurate term (no wonder, the OP has translated this to 
English).



Dutch: "donatie in natura" literally "donation in nature", from French?

French: "don en nature" - literally "gift in nature/kind" which seem
to be a phrase

So "donation in kind" will work for western European languages (and
Indonesian), though it would be nice if someone can check how it works
in Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, etc.

However, "donation of goods" works as well or better in most of these languages:

"Donation of goods" translates to:
= "sumbangan barang" (Indonesian)
= "donación de bienes" (Spanish)
= "don de biens" (French)
= "donatie van goederen" (Dutch)
= "Spende von Waren" (German)


no, "Spende von Waren" is not an established term, it doesn't sound natural 
(but would probably be understood anyway), the perfect term is "Sachspende". My 
guess is that also for the other languages, particularly Roman languagues with 
their reference to "nature", the established term is that and not the second 
alternative. No idea about Indonesian obviously ;)

Cheers
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[Markus Peloso]

Hello

For step 3.
Replace the entire content/source from the «Proposed features/Free Water» with 
this snippet:
«
{{Approved feature link|link=Key:drinking_water:refill|name=Free Water}}
{{Archived proposal|archive_id=1962961}}
»
The archive_id comes from the «View history» page by clicking the last / newest 
entry and coping the value from the oldid parameter in the url.

Best regards,

Markus

Von: European Water Project
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 12:15
An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
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Hello,

Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going to 
amend the final voted tag pair to :

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

Can someone please guide me on the below.  I appreciate your advice.  I would 
like to complete all tasks associated with this tag implementation.

1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was voted 
?... The page name corresponds to the one of the first interactions.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water

2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? (should I create a second one 
for "drinking_water:refill:network" or include it on the primary page ?)

3.  I will need guidance on the next three steps as well, but this can come 
after completion of 1 + 2.
*  Add a link back to the proposal by using the statuslink parameter of the 
feature template.
*  Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using 
Template:Approved feature 
link.
*  Archive the proposal using Template:Archived 
proposal.

Best regards,

Stuart


On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, European Water Project 
mailto:europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the tag 
pair as per the suggestion from Kovposch for the final write-up.

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

instead of :

drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;scheme-name2;scheme-name3;

Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small change 
?  I don't mind.

Best regards,

Stuart

On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project 
mailto:europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Again,

In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it is worth 
discussing the suggestion of  Kovposch to make refill a namespace and use the 
word network.

This would change the second tag of the tag pair to
drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;

Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace 
convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word "network" 
clearer than "scheme".

Best regards,

Stuart

On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project 
mailto:europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear All,

The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill water 
bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent passes with 13 
positive votes and three abstentions.  Please note, that to be tagged 
drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is evident so that 
the tag is verifiable.

The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear preference 
for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons - which is common with 
other tags.

· 
drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
· 
drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;
 
scheme-name2;scheme-name3;

Can someone please guide me on next steps ?

· Create the permanent feature description page:
· A new page for the feature should be created and the relevant map 
features 
template 
(depending on whether it is a key, a value, or a relation) should be applied. 
Follow the standard set by the 

Re: [Tagging] How to map an OpenStreetMap map?

[Markus Peloso]

Thanks for the idea.
I love it. :D

https://priceless.zottelig.ch/#offers=trip%2Fopenstreetmap

https://priceless.zottelig.ch/#offers=trip%2Fopenstreetmap=50.556607%2C12.6785266

Von: Rory McCann
Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Februar 2020 12:00
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org; 
t...@openstreetmap.org
Betreff: [Tagging] How to map an OpenStreetMap map?

In OSM, large map boards can be mapped as 
`tourist=information,information=map`. OSM is
pretty good quality, so now some of these maps are based on OSM data.

Is there anyway to record this in OSM?

IMO, you don't need a reason to map something, but one benefit is to help 
people promote OSM. If someone thinks you have a weird hobby with this map 
thing, and you bring them to big map showing our map, then that's pretty cool.

The `map_type` and `map_size` tags are used on these sort of maps. Do yous 
think `map_source=openstreetmap` is a good tag?
The long standing OSM convention of semicolons can be used if there's more than 
one source.
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Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Re: [Tagging] Public refrigerators

[Markus Peloso]

I find amenity=give_box is different from amenity=food_sharing as a 
shop=general is different from shop=supermarket.

In Switzerland if I go into a supermarket I found products of daily hygiene but 
the main thing is about shopping for food.

The main thing by a give box is about sharing items. In the description I 
explicit excluded amenity=give_box + food=only because if you go to e give box 
you expect some items like clothes, small appliances, dishes, toys.

--

Does a free pantry have some social aspect? Like given food to underprivileged 
or homless people 
social_facility:for<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:social_facility:for>=underprivileged,
 
social_facility:for<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:social_facility:for>=homeless,
 …

Based on the description on this website http://www.littlefreepantry.org/ I 
think the main thing is about sharing food and it is some kind of social 
service.

Markus

Von: Jmapb<mailto:jm...@gmx.com>
Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Februar 2020 06:34
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On 2/26/2020 4:32 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> On 26. Feb 2020, at 08:56, Markus Peloso  wrote:
>>
>> The amenity=give_box tag is specific for sharing and reusing none food 
>> items. Please do not use it for food sharing
>
> +1, although these are somehow similar features from a certain point of view, 
> they are also significantly different features from another point of view. I 
> am in favor of keeping a distinction on the main tag level.

The give_box proposal specifically said that food sharing was *not* to
be included in the give_box schema.

I voted for that, but since then, with the proposal stalled, I ran into
what I'd called a give box for "packaged food & personal care items."
It's labeled "free pantry" but it's not just for food.
https://i.imgur.com/UzhuIBo.jpg (Non-refrigerated, obviously. There were
actually cans of food in here but not visible in this shot.)

Also hiker boxes -- which were explicitly part of the give_box proposal
-- often have food as well as clothing, gear, books, maps, and fuel. So
maybe the prohibition of food in give_box isn't ideal.

Regardless, though, I don't think a public refrigerator should be a
subtag of give_box -- it's too distinct. I think
amenity=public_refrigerator makes sense. Using amenity=social_facility
plus a subtag would also be fine I guess.

Jason


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Food sharing

[Markus Peloso]

Hi Hauke

Thank you for your inputs (and warnings ;) ). Free choice is important to me.

I added the covered=* tag to the list. And add contact:* as a possible 
combination.

I see the list of combinations more as a suggestion/inspiration, so that useful 
(or preferred) combinations can always be added to the POIs without being on 
the list.

Best regards, Markus

Von: Hauke Stieler<mailto:m...@hauke-stieler.de>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Februar 2020 19:41
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Hi,

sometimes people just use boxes or the basket of an old bicycle for food
sharing purposes. Because they are usually not inside a building or
something, I would add the "covered=*" tag to your list.

I also would use the "contact:*" keys (for the website, facebook, other
social media channels, etc.). The "contact:facebook" key is also used
more often and I personally like the contact scheme. Some boxed may also
have other contact options (email, phone, instagram, twitter, ...). I
know the whole contact-scheme-thing might end up in a large discussion,
but I just wanted to mention it.

But the general proposal looks good, the tagging is simple and
everything is straight forward :)

Hauke

On 26.02.20 09:47, Markus Peloso wrote:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/food_sharing
>
>
>
> «A shelf/box/fridge where people drop off and pick up food in the sense
> of free sharing and/or to reduce food waste.»
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> I added the current proposal for food sharing I made to the wiki.
>
>
>
> What do you think about it?
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Markus
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Food sharing

[Markus Peloso]

Thanks, Markus, for your feedback.

I agree with you, network fit better then brand.

I remove charity I think it is not usefull because it do not fit. The little 
free pantry is more about food for people in need. My intention was to document 
this with charity=yes.

Best regards

Markus aka ToastHawaii

Von: Markus
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 12:03
An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Food sharing

Thanks, Markus, for writing this proposal. I like the proposed tag.

Just two minor things regarding tags that can be used in combination:

- brand=* Optional. Name of the brand or network of the facility if
there is one visible. eg.

I would change this to network=* as it seems to fit better. brand=* is
mainly used for the brand of items being sold while we're already
using network=* for bicycle sharing networks.

- charity=* Optional. Add charity=yes if the food for those in need.

It's not clear to me what you mean: a place where you can only donate
food or a place where you can bring food but only poor people are
allowed to take it away? If you have the first scenario in mind
(donating only), i would rather use amenity=recycling, analogous to
recycling:clothes=yes.

Regards

Markus aka SelfishSeahorse

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Food sharing

[Markus Peloso]

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/food_sharing

«A shelf/box/fridge where people drop off and pick up food in the sense of free 
sharing and/or to reduce food waste.»

Hi

I added the current proposal for food sharing I made to the wiki.

What do you think about it?

Best regards
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Re: [Tagging] Public refrigerators

[Markus Peloso]

Hello Markus

Thank you for starting this discussion. I have plans to start a feature propose 
for food sharing.

I found four tags that people use for food sharing 
social_facility=food_sharing, amenity=food_sharing, 
social_facility=community_fridge and recycling:food=yes.

https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/social_facility=food_sharing/amenity=food_sharing/social_facility=community_fridge/recycling:food=yes

Food related sharing boxes are common:

  *   http://mapping.littlefreepantry.org/ (~800 documented)
  *   https://foodsharing.de/karte (~750 documented)

In my opinion, food released boxes deserve their own tag. Give boxes and foot 
related boxes have a different concept in detail. Some foot related boxes eg. 
have a fridge, some disallows meat or only a group of people is allowed to fill 
it up. Little free pantry seems for giving food to poor people. Foodsharing 
seems for reduce food waste.

The amenity=give_box tag is specific for sharing and reusing none food items. 
Please do not use it for food sharing.

Currently I use and suggest amenity=food_sharing [+ fridge=yes] to tag this 
kinds of facility.

Best regards
Markus

Von: Markus
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. Februar 2020 19:56
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On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 19:44, Jan Michel  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> isn't this exactly what a amenity=give_box is? Just for food and not for
> toys or clothes.

Yes, similar. On the other hand, public bookcases, which have their
own tag, are also kind of give boxes.

> With your proposed tags, we would need yet another one for non-cooled
> food, so this is a bad idea in my opinion.
>
> So, I suggest:
> amenity = give_box
> food = only
> refrigerated = yes

Not perfect, but way better than amenity=recycling or
amenity=social_facility in my opinion.

Markus

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

[Markus Peloso]

Hi Hauke,

Thank you for your support and contributions. Clarity and transparency are 
important to me.

1.) I'm also not a native English speaker. I have translated the German word 
"Sachspende". I improve the definition, add a link to a wikipedia article and 
add a section for translations and synonyms.

2.) Maybe the native English speakers could help with a good British English 
tag name. As a Swiss person from the German speaking part I can say that it is 
helpful to have “donation” as part of the tag. Because that is something we 
understand and if I search for a tag that describes what I’m looking for I will 
search for “donation”.

3.) I add a section with tagging examples.

Best regards,

Markus


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Hi,

I have some feedback for you:

1.)
I'm not a native English spearker and personally never heard of "in-kind
donations" before, so maybe a short description/definition might be
needed/helpful.

2.)
According to [0] the convention for separation word in a key is the
underscore. So I would change the key to "in_place_donations".

3.)
Maybe give some examples for tagging. Something like: "A shop accepting
X in-kind donation for organization Y would be tagged like this: ..."

Hauke

[0]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like#Syntactic_conventions_for_new_tags

On 15.02.20 17:56, Markus Peloso wrote:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/in-kind_donation
>
>
>
> For a place that takes in-kind donations.
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> I describe a tag for shop and amenity that takes in-kind donations. I'm
> interested in your opinions.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Markus
>
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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

[Markus Peloso]

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/in-kind_donation

For a place that takes in-kind donations.

Hi

I describe a tag for shop and amenity that takes in-kind donations. I'm 
interested in your opinions.

Best regards,
Markus
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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting closed - give box

[Markus Peloso]

Hi

I close voting for 
give_box. 
Because the current documentation of the proposal process is ambiguous how 
"abstain" should be counted, I set the status to "undefined" until this is 
clarified. 
Talk:Proposal_process#Clarify_whatever_explicit_abstaining_is_the_same_as_no_vote

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - give box

[Markus Peloso]

Hello Joseph Eisenberg

Thanks for your input and your intention to keep this wiki clear.

I did not count "abstain" as part of the vote total and I don't see any good 
reason for doing that.

The discussion about the name, was early in the voting. After that the people 
still voted "yes".

There are good reasons to use "give box" because it is a well-known and 
existing concept in several European countries.

But maybe some people want a different Name:

I had extended the voting period until 8 February. Feel free to change your 
mind and vote "no" if you want another name.

Please give a clear statement. I will only count "yes" and "no" as part of the 
total.
It is also helpful if you vote "yes" and give a clear comment about the name.

Currently my second choice would be "free box".

Best regards,
Markus Peloso
Von: Joseph Eisenberg<mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. Februar 2020 15:00
An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - give box

Well, if we count all of those, it is 68% (13/19) which is less than
the 74% cut-off.

I don't think this should be considered "approved". There were several
comments that "free box" or something else that is more common in
British English should be considered instead.

More important than the number of votes is whether signficant problems
and objections have been addressed. In this case, the concern is that
"give box" is quite rare in Britain and other native English-speaking
countries, and is not unambiguous.

- Joseph Eisenberg

On 2/5/20, Markus Peloso  wrote:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dgive_box
>
> A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in
> the sense of free sharing and reuse.
>
> Hi
>
> Thanks for voting and for the inputs. Based on the result «13 votes for, 1
> vote against and 5 abstentions» I set the status to approved :D.
>
> Best regards,
> Markus
>
> Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar@outlook.com>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Januar 2020 09:42
> An: Tag discussion, strategy and related
> tools<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
> Betreff: Feature Proposal - Voting - give box
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box
>
> A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in
> the sense of free sharing.
>
> Hi
>
> Thanks for the discussion, inputs and improvement to this tag.
>
> I request for voting now.
>
> Feel free to give also a negative answer if you only don’t like the name.
> Then please write in the comments what name you prefer. Based on the result
> I will made a second vote with a new name. Other suggested names are:
> • amenity=free_box
> • amenity=free_goods
> • amenity=give_take_box
> • shop=freeshop
>
> Best regards,
> Markus
>
> Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar@outlook.com>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2020 21:26
> An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
> Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - give box
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box
>
> A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in
> the sense of free sharing.
>
> Hi
>
> Thank you for your inputs to improve this documentation and make it easy to
> understand what this tag is all about. I have removed all references and
> notes to give away shops, because those are not helpful for a clear
> specification of this tag.
>
> Thanks for the hint with the hiker boxes and the other type of boxes. Good
> to see that there are similar projects all over the world. I have included a
> section with suggestions on how this boxtypes could be handled with existing
> tags (the goods tag is already taken). I want this tag to be more specific
> then the reuse tag. I do not want to cover all existing variations with it.
> IMO someone like food boxes for example deserve their own tag.
>
> Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar@outlook.com>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Januar 2020 13:04
> An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
> Betreff: AW: Feature Proposal - RFC - give box
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box
>
> A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the
> sense of free sharing.
>
> Many thanks for your helpful Feedback and your support. :D
>
> I have updated the proposed.
>
> I like the idea of using the shop=charity icon. Maybe the icon could be a
> combination of the shop=charity icon and the shop=gif

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - give box

[Markus Peloso]

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dgive_box

A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in 
the sense of free sharing and reuse.

Hi

Thanks for voting and for the inputs. Based on the result «13 votes for, 1 vote 
against and 5 abstentions» I set the status to approved :D.

Best regards,
Markus

Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar@outlook.com>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Januar 2020 09:42
An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: Feature Proposal - Voting - give box

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box

A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in 
the sense of free sharing.

Hi

Thanks for the discussion, inputs and improvement to this tag.

I request for voting now.

Feel free to give also a negative answer if you only don’t like the name. Then 
please write in the comments what name you prefer. Based on the result I will 
made a second vote with a new name. Other suggested names are:
• amenity=free_box
• amenity=free_goods
• amenity=give_take_box
• shop=freeshop

Best regards,
Markus

Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar@outlook.com>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2020 21:26
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - give box

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box

A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in 
the sense of free sharing.

Hi

Thank you for your inputs to improve this documentation and make it easy to 
understand what this tag is all about. I have removed all references and notes 
to give away shops, because those are not helpful for a clear specification of 
this tag.

Thanks for the hint with the hiker boxes and the other type of boxes. Good to 
see that there are similar projects all over the world. I have included a 
section with suggestions on how this boxtypes could be handled with existing 
tags (the goods tag is already taken). I want this tag to be more specific then 
the reuse tag. I do not want to cover all existing variations with it. IMO 
someone like food boxes for example deserve their own tag.

Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar@outlook.com>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Januar 2020 13:04
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: AW: Feature Proposal - RFC - give box

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box

A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the 
sense of free sharing.

Many thanks for your helpful Feedback and your support. :D

I have updated the proposed.

I like the idea of using the shop=charity icon. Maybe the icon could be a 
combination of the shop=charity icon and the shop=gift icon.

I change the tag name to give_box. 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box
Because the name Givebox is used by a website that provides fundraising tools.

The naming was the difficult part. Why am I for give_box:

+ Give box is already a known concept in Europa with a big community.
+ I think "gift box" would be a very good name to describes the idea of this 
facility. As a self organized solidarity space of free giving/donating and free 
taking/reusing. The name "Give box" is similar.
+ Give box is not overused for other things found in the internet, eg. internet 
modems.

"reuse" is to generic, eg. someone can tag a fridge with amenity=reuse and 
reuse=fridge, to document a place to share food. But I think this kind of 
facility deserves its own tag.
I think the tag "reuse" is currently only used because there is no other tag 
for this kind of facility.

Give boxes are some kind of public storage room/space in the sense of giving 
and reuse. I think the "free store" (German "Umsonstladen") in Germany is more 
a give box as a store. As I read, even the shelf's in the "free store" 
("Umsonstladen") are brought by the community, that's more something like a 
public storage room. In a store I would except employees who eg. place the 
items on the shelves. That's way a give box is not a shop=charity or 
shop=second_hand. The idea and organization behind a "free store" (German 
"Umsonstladen") and "Give box" are the same, they differ only in the storage 
space size. A shack can also be named as a store. This makes a clear 
distinction difficult. As abstraction for OSM, I think we can use the same tag.

free_box would be my second choice. I would like to solve it democratically. In 
two weeks I would like to vote on give_box. If you prefer free_box then vote 
against it and write it in the comment of the vote. Then I change it and do a 
second vote for free_box.

Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar@outlook.com>
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Januar 2

Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water

[Markus Peloso]

Thanks for that. Now it's clear for me.

+1 from me for drinking_water:refill_scheme

I found three national programs (with maps) that I think are related to this 
tag.
- https://refill.org.uk/refill-schemes/
- https://refill-deutschland.de/
- http://www.fillitup.ch/karte.html

Von: European Water Project
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2020 08:02
An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water

Dear All,

I have amended the proposal with the tag and a simplified example.

The proposal is definitely more KISS.

drinking_water:refill_scheme = 

Best regards,

Stuart

On Wed, 22 Jan 2020 at 14:21, Philip Barnes 
mailto:p...@trigpoint.me.uk>> wrote:


On Wednesday, 22 January 2020, European Water Project wrote:
> Hi Paul et. al,
>
> I would also be very supportive of this straightforward approach which
> would address many of the concerns regarding an over complicated tagging
> scheme covering cases that are often mandated by local legislation.
>
> One clean solution could be the following or something similar.
>
> drinking_water:refill_scheme=
>

Thank you.

Paul's response did clear up my reservations on the idea.

The webpage makes it clear there is a sticker that is verifiable without going 
in a asking. Not sure if that was mentioned before or if I had simply missed it.

This meets the gold osm standard of Verifable.

Now I know there is something to look out for I can start looking when I'm out.

Its a shame the website doesn't have location, I do not use Google play, but I 
guess thats why you want to put them into OSM.

As its a UK scheme, discussion on the talk-gb list would be more focussed and 
you will reach more mappers who are able to survey and contribute.

Cheers
Phil  (trigpoint)

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - give box

[Markus Peloso]

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box

A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in 
the sense of free sharing.

Hi

Thanks for the discussion, inputs and improvement to this tag.

I request for voting now.

Feel free to give also a negative answer if you only don’t like the name. Then 
please write in the comments what name you prefer. Based on the result I will 
made a second vote with a new name. Other suggested names are:
• amenity=free_box
• amenity=free_goods
• amenity=give_take_box
• shop=freeshop

Best regards,
Markus

Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar@outlook.com>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2020 21:26
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - give box

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box

A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in 
the sense of free sharing.

Hi

Thank you for your inputs to improve this documentation and make it easy to 
understand what this tag is all about. I have removed all references and notes 
to give away shops, because those are not helpful for a clear specification of 
this tag.

Thanks for the hint with the hiker boxes and the other type of boxes. Good to 
see that there are similar projects all over the world. I have included a 
section with suggestions on how this boxtypes could be handled with existing 
tags (the goods tag is already taken). I want this tag to be more specific then 
the reuse tag. I do not want to cover all existing variations with it. IMO 
someone like food boxes for example deserve their own tag.

Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar@outlook.com>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Januar 2020 13:04
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: AW: Feature Proposal - RFC - give box

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box

A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the 
sense of free sharing.

Many thanks for your helpful Feedback and your support. :D

I have updated the proposed.

I like the idea of using the shop=charity icon. Maybe the icon could be a 
combination of the shop=charity icon and the shop=gift icon.

I change the tag name to give_box. 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box
Because the name Givebox is used by a website that provides fundraising tools.

The naming was the difficult part. Why am I for give_box:

+ Give box is already a known concept in Europa with a big community.
+ I think "gift box" would be a very good name to describes the idea of this 
facility. As a self organized solidarity space of free giving/donating and free 
taking/reusing. The name "Give box" is similar.
+ Give box is not overused for other things found in the internet, eg. internet 
modems.

"reuse" is to generic, eg. someone can tag a fridge with amenity=reuse and 
reuse=fridge, to document a place to share food. But I think this kind of 
facility deserves its own tag.
I think the tag "reuse" is currently only used because there is no other tag 
for this kind of facility.

Give boxes are some kind of public storage room/space in the sense of giving 
and reuse. I think the "free store" (German "Umsonstladen") in Germany is more 
a give box as a store. As I read, even the shelf's in the "free store" 
("Umsonstladen") are brought by the community, that's more something like a 
public storage room. In a store I would except employees who eg. place the 
items on the shelves. That's way a give box is not a shop=charity or 
shop=second_hand. The idea and organization behind a "free store" (German 
"Umsonstladen") and "Give box" are the same, they differ only in the storage 
space size. A shack can also be named as a store. This makes a clear 
distinction difficult. As abstraction for OSM, I think we can use the same tag.

free_box would be my second choice. I would like to solve it democratically. In 
two weeks I would like to vote on give_box. If you prefer free_box then vote 
against it and write it in the comment of the vote. Then I change it and do a 
second vote for free_box.

Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar@outlook.com>
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Januar 2020 23:41
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: Feature Proposal - RFC - Givebox

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Givebox

A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the 
sense of free sharing.

Hi

Based on the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Reuse and 
the  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpublic_bookcase tag I 
describe a tag for facilities similar to public bookcases but with all kinds of 
(none food) goods.





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Re: [Tagging] Tagging ideas for a non-profit ”course center”

[Markus Peloso]

Hello Jyri-Petteri Paloposki

Maybe amenity=coworking_space combined with operator:type=private_non_profit
fits for a place like that?

Best regards,

Markus

Von: Jyri-Petteri Paloposki
Gesendet: Samstag, 18. Januar 2020 00:13
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Tagging ideas for a non-profit ”course center”

On 21.9.2019 12.52, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
> I'd see that very suitable. You can define the subtype by tagging
> community_centre=*, and I would not see a requirement that the facility
> needs to be open to everybody, it can be for a specific user group,
> which can be tagged with community_centre:for=* .

This is the one that seems most suitable from the current tags, but I'm
still a bit stuck on the idea that a community centre should also have
some communal functions. These course centres I'm referring to don't
really belong to the community, but basically just provide space for
rent for users, which are usually non-profit because of the low-end
facilities.

When I look at the definition of a community centre in Wikipedia
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_centre#Uses_and_activities),
the only one that matches IMO is the one about renting a space. Is it
thus really a community centre?

Best regards,
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Re: [Tagging] Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant

[Markus Peloso]

Hello Stuart

Can you describe the difference between free_water and drinking_water better? 
Based on the wiki drinking_water means free potable water.

Best regards,
Markus
Von: European Water Project
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Januar 2020 22:09
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant

5. Re:  Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars, restaurant
  (Florimond Berthoux)
 Hello Florimond, While I don't necessarily feel the solution you propose 
 is preferable, I do share your love of KISS though.

I have tried to fairly incorporate the main feedback from the tagging maillist 
discussion.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water

Why do you think your proposal is preferred to the one outlined in the draft 
proposal ?
free_water = 
free_water:container =

Best regards,

Stuart


-

Message: 5
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 20:25:53 +0100
From: Florimond Berthoux 
mailto:florimond.berth...@gmail.com>>
To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools"
mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>>
Subject: Re: [Tagging]  Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars,
restaurant
Message-ID:

mailto:nj7xbjp5htdah1zw9gfxhwh8c0jd...@mail.gmail.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi, I go quickly through the email thread and didn't saw the simple
solution:

use drinking_water
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water
«drinking_water=* indicates whether a feature provides drinking water,
specifically whether water is drinkable for humans. »
So if a cafe provide the service of supplying drinking water, I would use
the usual access values with this key
drinking_water=yes/no/private/...

and use fee
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:fee
«The fee tag is for specifying whether a fee is usually charged for a
service, or for access. »
the service here is the drinking water so
drinking_water:fee=yes/no
And if more precision is needed use drinking_water:fee:conditional=*

Of course most of the cafe give drinking water (though may be not
completely drinkable...) so drinking_water can be optional here.

No new tag is needed here, KISS ;)

Le lun. 13 janv. 2020 à 10:20, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproj...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Dear All,
>
> I thought this subject could wait, but it is becoming pressing early than
> I expected.
>
> As part of our project (and that of similar non-profits - most of which
> are not open data but nevertheless great organisations), we want to
> voluntarily encourage cafés, bars and restaurants to offer free tap water
> bottle refill to anyone off the street.  Refill has had significant success
> in the UK and surprising the feedback is that the impact of increased
> customer traffic far outweighs any issue of cannibalization.
>
> If it is not already the case, could we develop a tagging standard for
> this case. Maybe "amenity = cafe & free_water = yes"
>
> It would be important to develop at the same time a distinct tag for
> another cause, which we support but will not be targeting is restaurants
> which offer free tap water for paying customers.
> Maybe "amenity = restuarant & free_carafe = yes"
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Stuart
>
> PS :
>
> The European Water Project progressive web app powered by OpenStreetMap,
> Wikidata and Wikimedia Commons data can be found :
> https://europeanwaterproject.org
>
>
>



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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - give box

[Markus Peloso]

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box

A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in 
the sense of free sharing.

Hi

Thank you for your inputs to improve this documentation and make it easy to 
understand what this tag is all about. I have removed all references and notes 
to give away shops, because those are not helpful for a clear specification of 
this tag.

Thanks for the hint with the hiker boxes and the other type of boxes. Good to 
see that there are similar projects all over the world. I have included a 
section with suggestions on how this boxtypes could be handled with existing 
tags (the goods tag is already taken). I want this tag to be more specific then 
the reuse tag. I do not want to cover all existing variations with it. IMO 
someone like food boxes for example deserve their own tag.

Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar@outlook.com>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Januar 2020 13:04
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: AW: Feature Proposal - RFC - give box

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box

A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the 
sense of free sharing.

Many thanks for your helpful Feedback and your support. :D

I have updated the proposed.

I like the idea of using the shop=charity icon. Maybe the icon could be a 
combination of the shop=charity icon and the shop=gift icon.

I change the tag name to give_box. 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box
Because the name Givebox is used by a website that provides fundraising tools.

The naming was the difficult part. Why am I for give_box:

+ Give box is already a known concept in Europa with a big community.
+ I think "gift box" would be a very good name to describes the idea of this 
facility. As a self organized solidarity space of free giving/donating and free 
taking/reusing. The name "Give box" is similar.
+ Give box is not overused for other things found in the internet, eg. internet 
modems.

"reuse" is to generic, eg. someone can tag a fridge with amenity=reuse and 
reuse=fridge, to document a place to share food. But I think this kind of 
facility deserves its own tag.
I think the tag "reuse" is currently only used because there is no other tag 
for this kind of facility.

Give boxes are some kind of public storage room/space in the sense of giving 
and reuse. I think the "free store" (German "Umsonstladen") in Germany is more 
a give box as a store. As I read, even the shelf's in the "free store" 
("Umsonstladen") are brought by the community, that's more something like a 
public storage room. In a store I would except employees who eg. place the 
items on the shelves. That's way a give box is not a shop=charity or 
shop=second_hand. The idea and organization behind a "free store" (German 
"Umsonstladen") and "Give box" are the same, they differ only in the storage 
space size. A shack can also be named as a store. This makes a clear 
distinction difficult. As abstraction for OSM, I think we can use the same tag.

free_box would be my second choice. I would like to solve it democratically. In 
two weeks I would like to vote on give_box. If you prefer free_box then vote 
against it and write it in the comment of the vote. Then I change it and do a 
second vote for free_box.

Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar@outlook.com>
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Januar 2020 23:41
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: Feature Proposal - RFC - Givebox

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Givebox

A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the 
sense of free sharing.

Hi

Based on the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Reuse and 
the  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpublic_bookcase tag I 
describe a tag for facilities similar to public bookcases but with all kinds of 
(none food) goods.




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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - give box

[Markus Peloso]

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box

A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the 
sense of free sharing.

Many thanks for your helpful Feedback and your support. :D

I have updated the proposed.

I like the idea of using the shop=charity icon. Maybe the icon could be a 
combination of the shop=charity icon and the shop=gift icon.

I change the tag name to give_box. 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box
Because the name Givebox is used by a website that provides fundraising tools.

The naming was the difficult part. Why am I for give_box:

+ Give box is already a known concept in Europa with a big community.
+ I think "gift box" would be a very good name to describes the idea of this 
facility. As a self organized solidarity space of free giving/donating and free 
taking/reusing. The name "Give box" is similar.
+ Give box is not overused for other things found in the internet, eg. internet 
modems.

"reuse" is to generic, eg. someone can tag a fridge with amenity=reuse and 
reuse=fridge, to document a place to share food. But I think this kind of 
facility deserves its own tag.
I think the tag "reuse" is currently only used because there is no other tag 
for this kind of facility.

Give boxes are some kind of public storage room/space in the sense of giving 
and reuse. I think the "free store" (German "Umsonstladen") in Germany is more 
a give box as a store. As I read, even the shelf's in the "free store" 
("Umsonstladen") are brought by the community, that's more something like a 
public storage room. In a store I would except employees who eg. place the 
items on the shelves. That's way a give box is not a shop=charity or 
shop=second_hand. The idea and organization behind a "free store" (German 
"Umsonstladen") and "Give box" are the same, they differ only in the storage 
space size. A shack can also be named as a store. This makes a clear 
distinction difficult. As abstraction for OSM, I think we can use the same tag.

free_box would be my second choice. I would like to solve it democratically. In 
two weeks I would like to vote on give_box. If you prefer free_box then vote 
against it and write it in the comment of the vote. Then I change it and do a 
second vote for free_box.

Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar@outlook.com>
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Januar 2020 23:41
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: Feature Proposal - RFC - Givebox

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Givebox

A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the 
sense of free sharing.

Hi

Based on the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Reuse and 
the  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpublic_bookcase tag I 
describe a tag for facilities similar to public bookcases but with all kinds of 
(none food) goods.



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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Givebox

[Markus Peloso]

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Givebox

A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the 
sense of free sharing.

Hi

Based on the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Reuse and 
the  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpublic_bookcase tag I 
describe a tag for facilities similar to public bookcases but with all kinds of 
(none food) goods.


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