Re: [Tagging] Opening hours syntax for non Gregorian calendar

[Saeed Hubaishan]

Adding ramadan as  is good.

I also  suggest adding optional [@calendar] to date range rules for non 
Gregorian dates and using month number instead of month abber name for example:

Sa-Th 09:00-21:00; 09/01-09/30 @hijri 20:00-03:00


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From: Simon Poole 
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2019 1:59:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [Tagging] Opening hours syntax for non Gregorian calendar



As I've pointed out before the one thing that is unproblematic to add are more 
variable date public holidays, right now there is only easter defined,  adding 
ramadan for example would be no problem.

Further expressing a rule is one thing, evaluating it is a something else, and 
adding some kind of "context" value to help in the later (for example a time 
zone value as has been suggested previously)  could potentially work.

Simon

Am 18.05.2019 um 12:34 schrieb Phake Nick:
That doesn't seems to solve the problem that would occur. For instance, how to 
represent the first Sunday (a feature in Gregorian calendar) after Chinese 
traditional ceremony X (a feature in Chinese traditional calendar) in the 
opening time syntax, if they're split up for "simplicity"? What about when the 
opening time also cover non-holiday festivals that only occurs according to 
either calendars?

On 2019-05-18 Sat 04:50, Paul Allen 
mailto:pla16...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Problem of splitting: what if a mapper gives the opening times in both 
calendar_X and calendar_Y
and they disagree?  Consumers will have to have rules like: in country_Z use 
calendar_X if given,
otherwise use standard opening_hours if given, otherwise use calendar_Y if 
given, otherwise
pick at random from what is left.

--
Paul

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[Tagging] Opening hours syntax for non Gregorian calendar

[Saeed Hubaishan]

As I see in the wiki opening hours should be in Gregorian calendar only.  But 
in fact there are many countries and religions using another calendars that 
affect the opening hours.

We (Muslims) used the Hijri Calendar 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar (lunar calendar)  for our 
holidays (Eid Alfiter and Eid Aledha)  all government offices and shops has 
another opening time in these holidays. Also in Ramdan holy month (9th month) 
all government offices and shops has a different opening time.

So opening_hours syntax must accept the other calendar systems.


the renderers may use ICU open source library to manage these other calendars 
see http://userguide.icu-project.org/datetime/calendar


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Re: [Tagging] Rivers intermittently navigable

[Saeed Hubaishan]

I think this topic is related to 'highways shared with waterways' (see at 
archive 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-December/041370.html), I 
hope to have agreed clear method to tag these.

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From: Fernando Trebien 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 8:37:41 PM
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Subject: [Tagging] Rivers intermittently navigable

Hello,

motorboat=* is used to represent waterways (rivers, canals and lakes)
that are open to inland navigation. In a river that does not dry up
enough to be mapped as intermittent=yes, is it possible to represent
that a river is sometimes not navigable according to local authorities
due to varying water level, by vessels that are at least a bit larger
than a canoe, typically cargo or passenger vessels?

motorboat:conditional only works if the periods where the river is
navigable are predictable, and that usually depends on the variable
amount of rain on the basin.

Regards,

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Fernando Trebien

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[Tagging] رد: Link roads between different highways type

[Saeed Hubaishan]

In usual the links in my country Yemen are lesser in their design than the two 
ways that it  linked between, you can see a trunk way with 4 lanes for every 
direction linked with a secondary way with 2 lanes for every direction with 
only one lane link.

In the link you can't drive with the higher way speed but you may drive in the 
lower way speed or lesser.

so the link does not have the importance of the higher, nor have the 
performance of the higher, So why it get the classify of the higher.

من: Paul Johnson 
‏‏تم الإرسال: 15 يناير, 2019 05:03 م
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‏‏الموضوع: Re: [Tagging] Link roads between different highways type

I think agreeing with the higher level is correct as the link usually 
inheirets, or at least tolerates, the rules and design standards for the higher 
road.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 04:51 Saeed Hubaishan 
mailto:hubais...@outlook.sa> wrote:
About the subject I used to tag the link with the lowest way class but in:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Link_roads_between_different_highways_types
Link roads between different highways types - OpenStreetMap 
Wiki<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Link_roads_between_different_highways_types>
Based on my own understanding, this is how you tag the link roads, when dealing 
with different highway categories. Always tag the link with the highest class 
road.
wiki.openstreetmap.org<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org>


it guides to use the hightest way class. I think this is not right behavior 
link from motorway to tertiary way is tertiary way not  motorway, and so.

What do you think about this?

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[Tagging] Link roads between different highways type

[Saeed Hubaishan]

About the subject I used to tag the link with the lowest way class but in:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Link_roads_between_different_highways_types
Link roads between different highways types - OpenStreetMap 
Wiki
Based on my own understanding, this is how you tag the link roads, when dealing 
with different highway categories. Always tag the link with the highest class 
road.
wiki.openstreetmap.org


it guides to use the hightest way class. I think this is not right behavior 
link from motorway to tertiary way is tertiary way not  motorway, and so.

What do you think about this?

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