Re: [Tagging] How to tag prefab / movable buildings
Hi all, Prefabrication often ease the move of such buildings but it's not mandatory. According to all suggestions, what about this: structure:prefabricated=yes (the whole building is prefabricated) structure:prefabricated=facade (only the facade) structure:prefabricated= * any building part * OR building:prefabricated=yes facade:prefabricated=yes * any building part*:prefabricated=yes structure:prefabricated is not consistent facade:prefabricated=yes since structure is not an actual building part I'd go for the second one, let me know. All the best François Le dim. 30 sept. 2018 à 02:20, Graeme Fitzpatrick a écrit : > How about demountable buildings, which are "supposed" to be temporary (but > I know of some at schools that have been in place for +30 years now!) > > eg https://www.lloydsauctions.com.au/insider/portable-buildings/ > > Thanks > > Graeme > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] How to tag prefab / movable buildings
How about demountable buildings, which are "supposed" to be temporary (but I know of some at schools that have been in place for +30 years now!) eg https://www.lloydsauctions.com.au/insider/portable-buildings/ Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] How to tag prefab / movable buildings
sent from a phone > On 27. Sep 2018, at 15:05, François Lacombe wrote: > > Should it be building:prefabricated or something else? along the lines of my reply above, I would suggest structure:prefabricated=yes facade:prefabricated=yes etc. of course there should be definitions what is intended by facade (according to the type of facade it can either be just that or can be load bearing). or we decide prefabricated=yes indicates that both, structure and facade are prefabricated. Tagging of construction types would either require sufficient publicly available documentation or your observation of the construction process, or a building that doesn’t hide it. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] How to tag prefab / movable buildings
Agreed there are several levels of prefabrication. Material is completely solved with material=* and no need to specialize it to prefabrication (concrete can be used on both prefabricated and not buildings) kind of prefabricated=yes would stand for complete prefabricated buildings and other values may precise a particular part. Should it be building:prefabricated or something else? François Le jeu. 27 sept. 2018 à 14:50, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > > sent from a phone > > On 27. Sep 2018, at 14:10, François Lacombe > wrote: > > Is there an established tag for that? > > > > I am not aware of established tagging, but would like to add that there > are all kind of buildings that can be prefabricated, e.g. „famous“ German > example: > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/1._WBS_70_Block_%281%29.JPG/1200px-1._WBS_70_Block_%281%29.JPG > > > And there are various levels of prefabrication, e.g. for a concrete > structure you could just have the lower parts of the ceiling in concrete > delivered and then add the formwork around it as well as the rest of the > steel, and pour the concrete to finish (i.e. ceiling is semi prefabricated > and completed on site), or similarly with walls (place a thin “sheet” of > concrete at the sides instead of formwork and fill it up). > You can also have complete walls and ceilings, and you can even have > complete rooms that get delivered and mounted at the site (even including > installations and finishes). > With some material it is common to have parts prefabricated, e.g. steel > and sometimes wood, not just concrete, and other parts like a facade in > metal and glass also consist usually of prefabricated parts (you’re not > gonna cut glass on site typically). > > Using prefabricated parts is standard in today’s building practice, but > not sufficient to call a building prefabricated. > > A simple property like prefabricated=yes does not catch it. We should > define what grade of prefabrication and which part (structure, ceilings, > bath rooms, etc) and most important, which material (concrete, steel, etc.). > > cheers, > Martin > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] How to tag prefab / movable buildings
sent from a phone > On 27. Sep 2018, at 14:10, François Lacombe wrote: > > Is there an established tag for that? I am not aware of established tagging, but would like to add that there are all kind of buildings that can be prefabricated, e.g. „famous“ German example: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/1._WBS_70_Block_%281%29.JPG/1200px-1._WBS_70_Block_%281%29.JPG And there are various levels of prefabrication, e.g. for a concrete structure you could just have the lower parts of the ceiling in concrete delivered and then add the formwork around it as well as the rest of the steel, and pour the concrete to finish (i.e. ceiling is semi prefabricated and completed on site), or similarly with walls (place a thin “sheet” of concrete at the sides instead of formwork and fill it up). You can also have complete walls and ceilings, and you can even have complete rooms that get delivered and mounted at the site (even including installations and finishes). With some material it is common to have parts prefabricated, e.g. steel and sometimes wood, not just concrete, and other parts like a facade in metal and glass also consist usually of prefabricated parts (you’re not gonna cut glass on site typically). Using prefabricated parts is standard in today’s building practice, but not sufficient to call a building prefabricated. A simple property like prefabricated=yes does not catch it. We should define what grade of prefabrication and which part (structure, ceilings, bath rooms, etc) and most important, which material (concrete, steel, etc.). cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] How to tag prefab / movable buildings
Hi all, I'm currently looking to know what would be the best way to tag prefab or movable buildings. Such buildings are used to host utilities or service equipments and building=service is used. This is a prefab building : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/3/38/20140501_165031.jpg This is not a prefab building : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:French_substation_tower.jpg Despite they have the same function. Is there an established tag for that? All the best François ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
