Re: [Tagging] etymology of street names

2011-06-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/1 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de:
 Why not include a weblink to the reason for the name?
 That could be a wikipedia-link to the page of the person the name comes from
 - or something else.


The key could be eponym, but personally I don't see necessity for this.

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] etymology of street names

2011-05-31 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.comwrote:


 Good idea, but not with etymology as the name.


-1


 You have to keep in mind, though, that this information is not strictly
 part of the geographical characteristics of the way/place,


I would even say that it has nothing to do with a geographic database. OSM
is NOT an encyclopedia. OSM is not a substitute of Wikipedia.

Pieren
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Re: [Tagging] etymology of street names

2011-05-31 Thread Steve Doerr

On 31/05/2011 17:21, Pieren wrote:
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Simone Saviolo 
simone.savi...@gmail.com mailto:simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote:



Good idea, but not with etymology as the name.


-1

You have to keep in mind, though, that this information is not
strictly part of the geographical characteristics of the way/place,


I would even say that it has nothing to do with a geographic database. 
OSM is NOT an encyclopedia. OSM is not a substitute of Wikipedia.


I think the intention was to record the specific words on the 
street-sign rather than general encyclopaedic information about the 
person who gave his name to the street. That could be legitimate for 
OSM, do you agree?


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Re: [Tagging] etymology of street names

2011-05-31 Thread Peter Wendorff

Why not include a weblink to the reason for the name?
That could be a wikipedia-link to the page of the person the name comes 
from - or something else.


regards
Peter

Am 31.05.2011 23:58, schrieb Steve Doerr:

On 31/05/2011 17:21, Pieren wrote:
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Simone Saviolo 
simone.savi...@gmail.com mailto:simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote:



Good idea, but not with etymology as the name.


-1

You have to keep in mind, though, that this information is not
strictly part of the geographical characteristics of the way/place,


I would even say that it has nothing to do with a geographic 
database. OSM is NOT an encyclopedia. OSM is not a substitute of 
Wikipedia.


I think the intention was to record the specific words on the 
street-sign rather than general encyclopaedic information about the 
person who gave his name to the street. That could be legitimate for 
OSM, do you agree?


--
Steve


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Re: [Tagging] etymology of street names

2011-04-12 Thread Steve Doerr

On 09/04/2011 15:30, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:

2011/4/8 Simone Saviolosimone.savi...@gmail.com:

Good idea, but not with etymology as the name. This is not the etymology;
that would be the philological origins of the word.


+1



Here we are talking
about a description of the person the place is named after, and especially
the reason why he deserved the honour.


+1

One possibility would be to use a tag like
name:wikipedia=language:article name (presetting name to a
wikipedia-tag-like-construction). Most important persons will have
their own wikipedia article.



-1.

It seems that the intention here is to record the words on the sign. 
Maybe the word eponymy would be appropriate?


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Re: [Tagging] etymology of street names

2011-04-09 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/4/8 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com:
 Good idea, but not with etymology as the name. This is not the etymology;
 that would be the philological origins of the word.


+1


 Here we are talking
 about a description of the person the place is named after, and especially
 the reason why he deserved the honour.


+1

One possibility would be to use a tag like
name:wikipedia=language:article name (presetting name to a
wikipedia-tag-like-construction). Most important persons will have
their own wikipedia article.

cheers,
Martin

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[Tagging] etymology of street names

2011-04-08 Thread Jo
In Ghent (Belgium) I find the following in the name tags:

Henri Farmanstraat ((Luchthavenpionier, 1874-1958))
Vincent Evrardlaan ((Oud burgemeester van Gentbrugge, 1896-1995))
Guido Gezelle straat ((Dichter, 1830-1899))

Interesting information, but technically not really part of the name of the
street. (Nobody will add that as part of an addres). Still, I also already
wanted to be able to add this information. Can this information be stored in
a name:etymology-tag? And while we're at it, we may be able to add a link to
Wikipedia as well?

name:wikipedia=nl:Guido Gezelle

What do you think?

mvg,

Polyglot
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Re: [Tagging] etymology of street names

2011-04-08 Thread Simone Saviolo
2011/4/8 Jo winfi...@gmail.com

 In Ghent (Belgium) I find the following in the name tags:

 Henri Farmanstraat ((Luchthavenpionier, 1874-1958))
 Vincent Evrardlaan ((Oud burgemeester van Gentbrugge, 1896-1995))
 Guido Gezelle straat ((Dichter, 1830-1899))

 Interesting information, but technically not really part of the name of the
 street. (Nobody will add that as part of an addres). Still, I also already
 wanted to be able to add this information. Can this information be stored in
 a name:etymology-tag?


Good idea, but not with etymology as the name. This is not the etymology;
that would be the philological origins of the word. Here we are talking
about a description of the person the place is named after, and especially
the reason why he deserved the honour.

You have to keep in mind, though, that this information is not strictly part
of the geographical characteristics of the way/place, but more of an
occasional addendum. Here in Italy this caption is often included in older
signs, or in newer signs in the historic centre that usually have some
better quality, but it's usually ignored on newer signs (like this [1] ).


 mvg,

 Polyglot


Regards,

Simone

[1] http://giandri.altervista.org/Prigioniero/ViaBosso.JPG
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