Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis
It is done. Interested parties, please see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcannabis and comment here or there. I'll be watching the discussion page. J ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis
@Jmapb I agree with all of your points. Reiterating a bit: Using the cannabis:*.* tag to designate a place where one can buy cannabis, be it a pharmacy or a shop=cannabis, or be it for recreational or medical use, will go a long way toward making this scenario both understandable and logical. I wouldn't like using shop=cannabis with amenity=pharmacy on the same object. No way. There would also be an ugly "tag collision" with shop=chemist (whatever that is, LOL). IMO, it would be best to use the tag of cannabis:medical=only for such dispensaries. On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 2:56 PM Jmapb via Tagging wrote: > On 6/14/2019 5:33 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > > Martin wrote: > > > > >It would imply adding shop=cannabis to pharmacies? In some countries > > the sale of medicine is restricted to pharmacies. > > > > Not necessarily. IMO, we could also use the cannabis:medical=yes/only > > tag to pharmacies offering it. > > > Yes, my understanding is that shop=cannabis is only for shops whose sole > purpose (or at least clear primary purpose) is the sale of cannabis. It > shouldn't automatically be added to any POI where legal cannabis is > available. > > A pharmacy that sells a variety of medicines should not be tagged as > shop=cannabis, but could still be tagged with cannabis:*=* (similar to > drink:wine=yes at shop=deli.) > > IMO the shop=cannabis tag should not be used at all in any jurisdiction > where legal cannabis is only available through general purpose > pharmacies. (I don't know of any such places, but I assume they exist > somewhere, or will at some point.) And obviously it also shouldn't be > used in jurisdictions where all cannabis sales are illegal. > > J > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Dave Swarthout Homer, Alaska Chiang Mai, Thailand Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis
On 6/14/2019 5:33 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: Martin wrote: >It would imply adding shop=cannabis to pharmacies? In some countries the sale of medicine is restricted to pharmacies. Not necessarily. IMO, we could also use the cannabis:medical=yes/only tag to pharmacies offering it. Yes, my understanding is that shop=cannabis is only for shops whose sole purpose (or at least clear primary purpose) is the sale of cannabis. It shouldn't automatically be added to any POI where legal cannabis is available. A pharmacy that sells a variety of medicines should not be tagged as shop=cannabis, but could still be tagged with cannabis:*=* (similar to drink:wine=yes at shop=deli.) IMO the shop=cannabis tag should not be used at all in any jurisdiction where legal cannabis is only available through general purpose pharmacies. (I don't know of any such places, but I assume they exist somewhere, or will at some point.) And obviously it also shouldn't be used in jurisdictions where all cannabis sales are illegal. J ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis
Martin wrote: >It would imply adding shop=cannabis to pharmacies? In some countries the sale of medicine is restricted to pharmacies. Not necessarily. IMO, we could also use the cannabis:medical=yes/only tag to pharmacies offering it. On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 12:58 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 14. Jun 2019, at 18:26, Jmapb wrote: > > > > An accepted answer to a recent question on help.openstreetmap.org ( > > > https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/69593/how-to-tag-a-medical-cannabis-dispensary > > ) suggested expanding the definition of shop=cannabis to include > > dispensaries for medical cannabis. > > > > This makes sense to me, and the original discussion ( > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/shop%3Dcannabis > > ) doesn't really give any clear reason for excluding medical cannabis > > shops. (In fact, the subtags cannabis:medical and cannabis:recreational > > are proposed and not disputed.) > > > It would imply adding shop=cannabis to pharmacies? In some countries the > sale of medicine is restricted to pharmacies. > > > Cheers, Martin > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Dave Swarthout Homer, Alaska Chiang Mai, Thailand Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis
sent from a phone > On 14. Jun 2019, at 18:26, Jmapb wrote: > > An accepted answer to a recent question on help.openstreetmap.org ( > https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/69593/how-to-tag-a-medical-cannabis-dispensary > ) suggested expanding the definition of shop=cannabis to include > dispensaries for medical cannabis. > > This makes sense to me, and the original discussion ( > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/shop%3Dcannabis > ) doesn't really give any clear reason for excluding medical cannabis > shops. (In fact, the subtags cannabis:medical and cannabis:recreational > are proposed and not disputed.) It would imply adding shop=cannabis to pharmacies? In some countries the sale of medicine is restricted to pharmacies. Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 19:13, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > Furthermore, in the U.S. normal pharmacies do not, AFAIK, sell cannabis. > Yet. I'd expect that in some jurisdictions pharmacies will eventually sell medicinal cannabis, if only on prescription. I'd expect that eventually, in some jurisdictions, other outlets licensed to sell alcohol and/or tobacco will be licensed to sell cannabis. It's only a matter of time. -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis
On 6/14/2019 2:12 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: I strongly agree that the Wiki should be updated to include the tags already in use for medical and recreational use of marijuana. I'm don't understand why the Wiki authors made it so restrictive in the first place. Furthermore, in the U.S. normal pharmacies do not, AFAIK, sell cannabis. Thanks. FYI many pharmacies in my area (NYC) have started selling CBD products, no prescription needed. It seems to be more or less unregulated at the moment. (Technically it depends on exactly which species of plant is the source.) There's also one shop I know that's explicitly only for CBD, which I've tagged as shop=cannabis + cannabis:cbd=only. (Strict adherence to the "don't use abbreviations in tags" rule would suggest tagging cannabis:cannabidiol=only instead, but literally nobody calls it that, or knows how to spell it. Plus it probably has an extra vowel or two in British.) J ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis
Not in most parts of the world where medical cannabis is sold. In most places, medical cannabis is in a legal grey area, and no reputable pharmacy would risk its license by dispensing something that is still on the books as an illegal drug. -- Mark On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 19:15:14 +0200 Tobias Zwick wrote: > Wouldn't medical cannabis be sold in pharmacies? > > On 14/06/2019 18:26, Jmapb wrote: > > An accepted answer to a recent question on help.openstreetmap.org ( > > https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/69593/how-to-tag-a-medical-cannabis-dispensary > > ) suggested expanding the definition of shop=cannabis to include > > dispensaries for medical cannabis. > > > > This makes sense to me, and the original discussion ( > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/shop%3Dcannabis > > ) doesn't really give any clear reason for excluding medical > > cannabis shops. (In fact, the subtags cannabis:medical and > > cannabis:recreational are proposed and not disputed.) > > > > I'm inclined to go ahead and edit the shop=cannabis wiki page (also > > take out some of the verbiage... the history in Colorado is > > interesting but not really relevant to the map) but I'd first like > > to fish for objections. (Agreement also welcome!) > > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis
I strongly agree that the Wiki should be updated to include the tags already in use for medical and recreational use of marijuana. I'm don't understand why the Wiki authors made it so restrictive in the first place. I also agree that these dispensaries are merely special purpose shops and not pharmacies. Furthermore, in the U.S. normal pharmacies do not, AFAIK, sell cannabis. I suggest: cannabis:medical=yes/only cannabis:recreational=yes/only Using these optional tags, shops that sell only medical or only recreational cannabis can be better distinguished. Also, agree that the verbiage about Colorado could be removed. Thanks, Dave On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 9:49 AM Jmapb wrote: > On 6/14/2019 1:15 PM, Tobias Zwick wrote: > > Wouldn't medical cannabis be sold in pharmacies? > > The world is vast and diverse, so I imagine the answer is yes. But in > the places I map most (USA), medical cannabis is sold in single-purpose > shops called dispensaries, which do not stock any other medicines. > Calling them pharmacies would be a form of "troll tagging." > > (Of course a pharmacy that does sell cannabis, wherever and whenever > that exists, could be tagged cannabis=yes or cannabis:medical=yes.) > > J > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Dave Swarthout Homer, Alaska Chiang Mai, Thailand Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis
On 6/14/2019 1:15 PM, Tobias Zwick wrote: Wouldn't medical cannabis be sold in pharmacies? The world is vast and diverse, so I imagine the answer is yes. But in the places I map most (USA), medical cannabis is sold in single-purpose shops called dispensaries, which do not stock any other medicines. Calling them pharmacies would be a form of "troll tagging." (Of course a pharmacy that does sell cannabis, wherever and whenever that exists, could be tagged cannabis=yes or cannabis:medical=yes.) J ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis
Wouldn't medical cannabis be sold in pharmacies? On 14/06/2019 18:26, Jmapb wrote: > An accepted answer to a recent question on help.openstreetmap.org ( > https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/69593/how-to-tag-a-medical-cannabis-dispensary > ) suggested expanding the definition of shop=cannabis to include > dispensaries for medical cannabis. > > This makes sense to me, and the original discussion ( > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/shop%3Dcannabis > ) doesn't really give any clear reason for excluding medical cannabis > shops. (In fact, the subtags cannabis:medical and cannabis:recreational > are proposed and not disputed.) > > I'm inclined to go ahead and edit the shop=cannabis wiki page (also take > out some of the verbiage... the history in Colorado is interesting but > not really relevant to the map) but I'd first like to fish for > objections. (Agreement also welcome!) > > Thanks, Jason > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis
Le 14.06.19 à 18:26, Jmapb a écrit : > the subtags cannabis:medical and cannabis:recreational are proposed or usage=medical|recreational ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] shop=cannabis including medical cannabis
An accepted answer to a recent question on help.openstreetmap.org ( https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/69593/how-to-tag-a-medical-cannabis-dispensary ) suggested expanding the definition of shop=cannabis to include dispensaries for medical cannabis. This makes sense to me, and the original discussion ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/shop%3Dcannabis ) doesn't really give any clear reason for excluding medical cannabis shops. (In fact, the subtags cannabis:medical and cannabis:recreational are proposed and not disputed.) I'm inclined to go ahead and edit the shop=cannabis wiki page (also take out some of the verbiage... the history in Colorado is interesting but not really relevant to the map) but I'd first like to fish for objections. (Agreement also welcome!) Thanks, Jason ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
