Re: Humanware Brailliant BI 40

[Isaac via Talk]

have you tried to force the windows 8 driver to install?
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Belew via Talk" 

To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:23 PM
Subject: Humanware Brailliant BI 40



Ever since I updated my computer to Windows 10, my Brailliant BI 40 has
stopped working.  I finally called Humanware support, only to find out 
that
they don't have a driver yet for Windows 10.  I find this very 
frustrating,

since Windows 10 has been out since July.  Window-Eyes still clears the
display to blank when loading, but no braille ever gets displayed.  If you
use this display and having braille is important to you, don't upgrade to
Windows 10 yet.  Unfortunately, the Humanware support person could not 
tell

me when a driver might be ready.



This failure on Humanware's part is frustrating and makes me very much
appreciate AISquare's policy of having new versions ready for a major
release of Windows.



Bill



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Windows 8.1, Event Viewer and Logs

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: I just went into the Event Viewer and found a confusing mix of controls
and no actual details for any logs and a whole lot of logs indeed.
Also, the Event Viewer locked up WindowEyes reading at one point where it,
the logger, was minimized. I alt tabbed into the event viewer, the title bar
read event viewer, routed the mouse to the event viewer window but up and
down arrows read the Desktop Icons and so focus was not in the Event Viewer.
Anyway, the event viewer is very confusing and I couldn't make sense out of
how to use it - any quick tutorials on this or is there a WindowEyes script
to make more sense out of this Window and all the many logs?
There has to be a trail of what is going on when WindowEyes slows down and
locks up but where to find the information and, or, the tools necessary to
find it is not a normal part of Application Programming so I am floundering
around since I don't even know what I don't know and that is the worst state
to be in and I could use some good starting points to build on.
In the old days of xp I could use the logs easily - not any more at first
attempts it seems.
Rick USA

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Way To Track Module / Process Execution

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: WE is slowing down and stopping too often, getting worse lately.
I find that sometimes when the tab and arrow keys don't work that just
sometimes the mouse numpad keys still work for at least some navigation.
I am thinking there must be a program or script that allows for tracking of
what modules and or processes are running and which ones are hanging up on a
computer.
Now, since the keyboard is pretty much locked up during the hangups doing
allot of navigating around is out.
Is there an existing program, feature or script that allows for hitting a
hot key to start tracking methods and or modules and processes when the
slowdown first starts, allows for running for a short time and then loggs
the information about cpu usage, which methods and or processes and programs
or scripts are being invoked with times they are active - something to allow
for analysis of what is hanging the computer up?
Right now it could be WindowEyes, the OS or just about anything like
something trying to call out to the internet and waiting for a response or
any of many other problems and I am looking for a tool to debug the problem
so I can post up a fix or notify WindowEyes if it is WindowEyes related.
Any ideas or suggestions?
Anyone aware of any current WindowEyes scripts or, if you work for AI
Squared, any tools you use during testing changes to scripts or WindowEyes
before publishing?
Rick USA

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Windows Resource Monitor?

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: As I start digging into how to find out what is causing WindowEyes to
slow down and lock up I found the Windows Resource Monitor which has its own
executible file.
First, it has allot, all, graphs and dynamic performance indicators on a
form which doesn't sound accessible to a screen reader but is it?
Second, has anyone developed a script to fire up Resource Monitor with a
small script if it is accessible?
If it is not is there a way to log the details of the real-time graphic
display values to a text or xml file or even another persistent storage that
can be read by humans?
Or, is there another piece of software where I can track what is causing the
WindowEyes slowdowns and lockups?
Rick USA

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Place Marker problem fixed

[Mike Rogers via Talk]

I just re-booted.



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signing in to windows 10

[Bud Schwab via Talk]

Hi  gang,

Windows 10 has  been making noises about getting a new password so 
last night my grandson was here and changed it to a new one.  Now I 
have to sign in every time I boot up.  I remember we fixed that last 
time so you didn't have to sign in but I don't remembrr how we did 
it.  Does anybody know where  I can find instructions on how to 
fix it so I don't have to sign in everu time? Thanks.



Bud Schwab
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El Segundo, California   


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RE: [EXTERNAL] we and tablets

[Baracco, Andrew W via Talk]

I believe that the MS Surface Pro has a keyboard. You can also connect
one either via the USB port or Bluetooth.

Andy


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Subject: [EXTERNAL] we and tablets

Is anyone using we with a tablet, and if so, which one? Is there a built
in keyboard? 

Thanks, Don   
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RE: [EXTERNAL] we and tablets

[Les Kriegler via Talk]

Andy, the Surface has a keyboard, but it an additional purchase.  Last I
knew it was $129.

Les

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Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 11:23 AM
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Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] we and tablets

I believe that the MS Surface Pro has a keyboard. You can also connect
one either via the USB port or Bluetooth.

Andy


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Subject: [EXTERNAL] we and tablets

Is anyone using we with a tablet, and if so, which one? Is there a built
in keyboard? 

Thanks, Don   
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apex brailliant bi displays with windows 10

[Roger Behm AIS via Talk]

HI Window-eyes users,

I talked to Greg Stilson at HumanWare, who is in charge of their 
braille products about windows 10 drivers for the apex and brailliant 
bi displays.


He said they are working on a all new driver for the Apex and 
Brailliant BI displays so you can just attached them with the usb 
cable just like you would a usb keyboard and no drivers will be 
needed to be installed.


Also the google android operating system has had a Apex in their 
hands for sometime and they should have the Apex as a possible 
braille display for braille back's  google android just likek they 
already have the Brailliant BI.



Regards,

Roger Behm

ADAPTIVE INFORMATION SYSTEMS INC.
WE MAKE TECHNOLOGY ACCESSIBLE TO THE VISION IMPAIRED AND READING DISABLED

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Re: Humanware Brailliant BI 40

[Roger Behm AIS via Talk]

HI Brailliant BI user,

HumanWare is working on a all new easier to use drivers for windows 
10 and the apex and  Brailliant BI. It will be very easy to attach an 
Apex or Brailliant BI not needing to install any drivers, but just 
plug it in and it works!


You should have looked before uupgrrading to windows 10 to make sure 
your hardware is suported, before you took the leap.


Even MicroSoft released Windows 10 and there were programs that were 
not accessible in Windows 10 by sscreen readers, and it was stated by 
many AT specialists, don't upgrade unless you are forced to by your job.


It should be out very soon said the head of the braille products Greg 
Stilson, from HumanWare, but let them get it right and it wil be nice 
not to have to install any software to make the Apex or Brailiant BI work.



Regards,
Roger Behm

 At 01:50 AM 10/27/2015, you wrote:

have you tried to force the windows 8 driver to install?
- Original Message - From: "Bill Belew via Talk" 


To: "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 5:23 PM
Subject: Humanware Brailliant BI 40



Ever since I updated my computer to Windows 10, my Brailliant BI 40 has
stopped working.  I finally called Humanware support, only to find out that
they don't have a driver yet for Windows 10.  I find this very frustrating,
since Windows 10 has been out since July.  Window-Eyes still clears the
display to blank when loading, but no braille ever gets displayed.  If you
use this display and having braille is important to you, don't upgrade to
Windows 10 yet.  Unfortunately, the Humanware support person could not tell
me when a driver might be ready.



This failure on Humanware's part is frustrating and makes me very much
appreciate AISquare's policy of having new versions ready for a major
release of Windows.



Bill



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Re: Humanware Brailliant BI 40

[via Talk]

They have a driver, or rather some kind of beta, call them again and
they should show you what to do.   I did that and it now works for me.

Bill Belew via Talk  wrote:

> Ever since I updated my computer to Windows 10, my Brailliant BI 40 has
> stopped working.  I finally called Humanware support, only to find out that
> they don't have a driver yet for Windows 10.  I find this very frustrating,
> since Windows 10 has been out since July.  Window-Eyes still clears the
> display to blank when loading, but no braille ever gets displayed.  If you
> use this display and having braille is important to you, don't upgrade to
> Windows 10 yet.  Unfortunately, the Humanware support person could not tell
> me when a driver might be ready.  
> 
>  
> 
> This failure on Humanware's part is frustrating and makes me very much
> appreciate AISquare's policy of having new versions ready for a major
> release of Windows.  
> 
>  
> 
> Bill
> 
>  
> 
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Kindle for PC

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

Alas! The battle is over. Thanks for  all the help. Egg on my face again. 
Amazon customer service and Microsoft Accessibility were very nice but couldn’t 
help.I did a clean reinstallation of Window-Eyes 9.2 from the CD. The Kindle 
app works now. I wonder if a Window-Eyes app was causing this or if there was a 
problem with my previous installation. Anyway, problem solved. I will be adding 
apps back gradually to see if I can figure anything out.
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Re: signing in to windows 10

[Isaac via Talk]

it's no problem, just open command prompt as an administrator, then type net 
user with your user name after user name and then press *

so the command if your user name was administrator would be
net user administrator *
then press enter twice, and you will have no password at all
- Original Message - 
From: "Bud Schwab via Talk" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: signing in to windows 10



Hi  gang,

Windows 10 has  been making noises about getting a new password so last 
night my grandson was here and changed it to a new one.  Now I have to 
sign in every time I boot up.  I remember we fixed that last time so you 
didn't have to sign in but I don't remembrr how we did it.  Does anybody 
know where  I can find instructions on how to fix it so I don't have 
to sign in everu time? Thanks.



Bud Schwab
W 6 Z Y P
El Segundo, California
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RE: shortcut key strokes

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

Awesome!  I will do just that! Thanks, Veronica

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 12:38 PM
To: 'Nick Sarames'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: shortcut key strokes

Hi Veronica,

Regardless of the email program you're using, the most reliable way to
forward an email is to highlight it in the list of messages, press the
Applications key, arrow down to Forward and press Enter.

Hth,

Rod

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Sent: October 25, 2015 2:17 PM
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Subject: Re: shortcut key strokes

Try control-l if you want to forward an e-mail.  Don't know if that's a 
Thunderbird key stroke, but maybe try it.

On 10/25/2015 10:46 AM, Veronica Smith via Talk wrote:
> The thing I find annoying is when I hit control-F to forward and it says,
> find.  It didn't used to do this, it makes me crazy. I have to back out
and
> start again. Grrr.
> Veronica
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+madison_tewe=spinn@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf
> Of Dave Basden via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 1:09 PM
> To: Mike; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: shortcut key strokes
>
> Ever since GW Micro rewrote Browse mode, if you press a key before a
> page is loaded and your synthesizer stops reading it, the keystroke
> is taken as a silence key.  The second press works.  If you wait for
> things to settle down, the first press works.  I hope GW Micro fixes
> this in the next release--it's really annoying.
>
>
>
> At 10:41 AM 10/24/2015, you wrote:
>> Hello Everyone
>>
>> Since a recent recovery of my laptop, the shortcut key strokes in
>> browse mode,appear to be ignored until I repeat them.  Does anyone
>> have any ideas what may be the problem?
>>
>> With thanks in advance
>>
>> Mike.
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Re: Place Marker problem fixed

[Larry Higgins via Talk]

Just a tip. It really isn't necessary to reboot, only logout and login 
again, and that works just as well and takes much less time.


Too bad you should have to do this at all, but at least there is an easy 
thought slightly inconvenient solution.


On 10/27/2015 10:12 AM, Mike Rogers via Talk wrote:

I just re-booted.



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How to turn off auto we updates

[Rick Thomas via Talk]

Hi: Where do I find the checkbox or whatever to ensure we is not looking
online for any script or any other updates or versions of anything?
Rick USA

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Fixed, getting attachments now

[Veronica Smith via Talk]

Here is what I did.  I did as chris recommended, opened the menu, control
back slash, enter enter and still couldn't find Window-eyes diagnostics, so
then I went to App central and found Utilities, there I found WEDiag and
downloaded it.
Then I went back and repeated the steps from before and turned on status. I
arrowed up to Window-eyes diagnostics, hit enter, arrowed down to refresh
libraries, exited out of there and  wala, I am now able to open attachments.


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RE: How to turn off auto we updates

[Rod Hutton via Talk]

Hi Rick,

As I've always known it, app updates always require confirmation before
taking place.
However, how you are notified is configured under the GW Toolkit app entry
in the Apps menu, by selecting the App updates option.
If you were to choose "Don't notify me," I think that you simply wouldn't be
notified about available updates.
Not being notified doesn't mean that they would be automatically installed.

Hth,

Rod

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Subject: How to turn off auto we updates

Hi: Where do I find the checkbox or whatever to ensure we is not looking
online for any script or any other updates or versions of anything?
Rick USA

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RE: Fixed, getting attachments now

[Charles Short via Talk]

Where is the command prompt if I want to disable the windows sign in
whenever I start up my computer?  Do you know how to find it?
Charlie


Best Regards

Charlie Short

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On Behalf Of Veronica Smith via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 9:45 PM
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Subject: Fixed, getting attachments now

Here is what I did.  I did as chris recommended, opened the menu, control
back slash, enter enter and still couldn't find Window-eyes diagnostics, so
then I went to App central and found Utilities, there I found WEDiag and
downloaded it.
Then I went back and repeated the steps from before and turned on status. I
arrowed up to Window-eyes diagnostics, hit enter, arrowed down to refresh
libraries, exited out of there and  wala, I am now able to open attachments.


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Re: Windows 10 Sounds

[William Vandervest via Talk]

   is there a sound scheme builder for windows 10 




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Internet Explorer Question

[Mike Rogers via Talk]

I'm having trouble with I.E. and don't understand.  My place markers are set 
with Firefox, but don't work with I.E. and the control-shift-k hot key doesn't 
work with I.
E.  I was hoping to switch , so the mouse keys would work, but there seems to 
be other problems with I.E.  the voice seems to stop working frequently.  Pain 
in the neck.



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