RE: How to turn off wrapping from bottom

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

Turn off Verbosity/browse mode/miscellaneous/allow wrap around for next prior 
hot keys.


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Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 6:55 PM
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Subject: How to turn off wrapping from bottom

How can I turn off wrapping from bottom?
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How to turn off wrapping from bottom

[Loy via Talk]

How can I turn off wrapping from bottom?
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Re: Sound Forge Pro 11 ap released.

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Thanks, Nolan.

No, I can't say it was easy or trivial. But if it motivates you then it 
was worth it.


Enjoy,
Tom


On 7/8/2016 3:19 PM, Crabb, Nolan wrote:

This is hugely impressive. I’ve owned 11 for a long time, and I never quite got 
motivated to upgrade from 10. I think you’ve given me reasons to do that. 
Congratulations on the work done on this; it can’t have been easy, and it 
wasn’t trivial I’m sure.

Regards,

Nolan


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Re: restart

[Chris Skarstad via Talk]

Hi.  In both Windows 7, 8.1 and in Windows 10, if you're on the desktop, 
you can press alt plus f4 and it'll take you to a screen with several 
options.  One of them is restart, so press enter on that and it'll 
restart windows.It took me a while to learn that trick.



On 7/8/2016 3:23 PM, Norene Trappa via Talk wrote:

Good afternoon,

Is there a quick way to do a restart rather than going through the options?  I 
am using windows 7 and WE  9.3

Norene

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Re: restart

[Norene Trappa via Talk]

Oh, thank you.  That's great.

Norene



-Original Message- 
From: Ashley Breger

Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 2:39 PM
To: Norene Trappa ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: restart

If you just hit alt of four from your desktop and then arrow up to it should 
take you to restart


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Good afternoon,

Is there a quick way to do a restart rather than going through the 
options?  I am using windows 7 and WE  9.3


Norene

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Re: restart

[Ashley Breger via Talk]

If you just hit alt of four from your desktop and then arrow up to it should 
take you to restart

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> On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:23 PM, Norene Trappa via Talk 
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> 
> Good afternoon,
> 
> Is there a quick way to do a restart rather than going through the options?  
> I am using windows 7 and WE  9.3 
> 
> Norene
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Re: Asus PC and window eyes

[Amanda Lee via Talk]

Just shift-F10 which I do all of the time with this Logitech 760 wireless 
keyboard.  I like it very much though as it's smaller in profile and has a 
number pad.  It is also generally available for under $30 USD.



- Original Message - 
From: "Tony C via Talk" 
To: "Tom Fairhurst" ; "Window-Eyes Discussion List" 

Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes


some of the keyboards don''t have an applicationj key either.

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:46 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

I have been observing this discussion for a long time. I now realize I only
have one Windows  key. I bought my HP Pavillion desktop in 2012. Laptop are
another matter. I gbuess my greater concern would like in having a number
pad, numlock, and an application key, which I have.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 7:57 AM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

This is the first PC I ran across with only one windows key.

-Original Message- 
From: Lloyd Rasmussen
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 5:18 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

It's quite common to have only one Windows key. That's what I have on this
full-size 6-year-old Toshiba laptop which includes a numeric pad and nearly
full-size keys. The keys which would be the six-pack are in a row next to
F12, and some features like Scroll-lock are done with another key combined
with the FN key. But I have gotten used to it.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
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-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 9:19 AM
To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

I called Asus and they told me this keyboard only has one windows key.  I
wonder if there is a way of remapping the other key to become a windows key?

-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 9:37 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

Hopefully BestBuy can answer your question.

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On July 6, 2016 8:50:36 AM Russ Kiehne  wrote:

> The computer came from Bestbuy.
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Marc Solomon
> Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 11:34 AM
> To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes
>
> You could try calling the company you bought the PC from.
>
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> On July 5, 2016 9:13:31 AM Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>
>> Outside of having a sighted person look at the keyboard, is there a way
>> of
>> finding out what this key does?
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Marc Solomon
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 6:56 AM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Russ Kiehne
>> Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes
>>
>> It might be a function (FN) key. You see this key showing up on more
>> keyboards these days.
>>
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>>
>> On July 5, 2016 8:39:39 AM Tony C via Talk 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The windows key that you are talking about not doing anything, probally
>>> isn't a windows key. There are so many different configurations of
>>> keyboard
>>> now days. You have to pay very close attention to what keyboard you get
>>> with
>>> your PC and if you are buying a keyboard either wireless or whatever
>>> make
>>> sure the keyboard you choose has the keys present that you need with
>>> Window
>>> eyes or whatever your are using.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- 
>>> From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 8:23 AM
>>> To: Janet Brandly ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes
>>>
>>> Speaking of Asus computers, I just bought a Asus desktop computer and
>>> found
>>> the following:
>>>
>>> on my old computer, on the right side of the spacebar, I had the ald
>>> key,
>>> the windows key, the applications key and control key.  On this new
>>> desktop,
>>> the Windows key doesn't do anything?  Anyone have any idea why this is?
>>> The
>>> Windows key on the left side of the Spacebar does work.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- 
>>> From: Janet Brandly via Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 8:13 AM
>>> To: Jo Taliaferro ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes
>>>
>>> Hi Jo and All,
>>>
>>> I also have an Asus laptop. I was very surprised to discover the lack of
>>> the
>>> keys you mention. I have set my caps lock key to act as the insert key.
>>> The
>>> page-up, page-down, and other functions have to be performed 

Re: Sound Forge Pro 11 ap released.

[Crabb, Nolan via Talk]

This is hugely impressive. I’ve owned 11 for a long time, and I never quite got 
motivated to upgrade from 10. I think you’ve given me reasons to do that. 
Congratulations on the work done on this; it can’t have been easy, and it 
wasn’t trivial I’m sure.

Regards,

Nolan

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restart

[Norene Trappa via Talk]

Good afternoon,

Is there a quick way to do a restart rather than going through the options?  I 
am using windows 7 and WE  9.3 

Norene

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RE: Asus PC and window eyes

[Chris Grabowski via Talk]

It is funny, my full size Microsoft keyboard doesn't have a right windows key, 
but my generic full size Bluetooth keyboard does.


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-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 1:50 PM
To: Tom Fairhurst ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 

Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

some of the keyboards don''t have an applicationj key either.

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:46 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

I have been observing this discussion for a long time. I now realize I only
have one Windows  key. I bought my HP Pavillion desktop in 2012. Laptop are
another matter. I gbuess my greater concern would like in having a number
pad, numlock, and an application key, which I have.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 7:57 AM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

This is the first PC I ran across with only one windows key.

-Original Message- 
From: Lloyd Rasmussen
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 5:18 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

It's quite common to have only one Windows key. That's what I have on this
full-size 6-year-old Toshiba laptop which includes a numeric pad and nearly
full-size keys. The keys which would be the six-pack are in a row next to
F12, and some features like Scroll-lock are done with another key combined
with the FN key. But I have gotten used to it.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 9:19 AM
To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

I called Asus and they told me this keyboard only has one windows key.  I
wonder if there is a way of remapping the other key to become a windows key?

-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon
Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 9:37 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

Hopefully BestBuy can answer your question.

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On July 6, 2016 8:50:36 AM Russ Kiehne  wrote:

> The computer came from Bestbuy.
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Marc Solomon
> Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 11:34 AM
> To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes
>
> You could try calling the company you bought the PC from.
>
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>
>
> On July 5, 2016 9:13:31 AM Russ Kiehne  wrote:
>
>> Outside of having a sighted person look at the keyboard, is there a way 
>> of
>> finding out what this key does?
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Marc Solomon
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 6:56 AM
>> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Russ Kiehne
>> Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes
>>
>> It might be a function (FN) key. You see this key showing up on more
>> keyboards these days.
>>
>> Sent with AquaMail for Android
>> http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>
>>
>> On July 5, 2016 8:39:39 AM Tony C via Talk 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The windows key that you are talking about not doing anything, probally
>>> isn't a windows key. There are so many different configurations of
>>> keyboard
>>> now days. You have to pay very close attention to what keyboard you get
>>> with
>>> your PC and if you are buying a keyboard either wireless or whatever 
>>> make
>>> sure the keyboard you choose has the keys present that you need with
>>> Window
>>> eyes or whatever your are using.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- 
>>> From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 8:23 AM
>>> To: Janet Brandly ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes
>>>
>>> Speaking of Asus computers, I just bought a Asus desktop computer and
>>> found
>>> the following:
>>>
>>> on my old computer, on the right side of the spacebar, I had the ald 
>>> key,
>>> the windows key, the applications key and control key.  On this new
>>> desktop,
>>> the Windows key doesn't do anything?  Anyone have any idea why this is?
>>> The
>>> Windows key on the left side of the Spacebar does work.
>>>
>>> -Original Message- 
>>> From: Janet Brandly via Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 8:13 AM
>>> To: Jo Taliaferro ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes
>>>
>>> Hi Jo and All,
>>>
>>> I also have an Asus laptop. I was very surprised to discover the lack of
>>> the
>>> keys you mention. I have set my caps lock key to act as the 

Re: Asus PC and window eyes

[Tony C via Talk]

some of the keyboards don''t have an applicationj key either.

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst via Talk

Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 8:46 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

I have been observing this discussion for a long time. I now realize I only
have one Windows  key. I bought my HP Pavillion desktop in 2012. Laptop are
another matter. I gbuess my greater concern would like in having a number
pad, numlock, and an application key, which I have.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 7:57 AM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

This is the first PC I ran across with only one windows key.

-Original Message- 
From: Lloyd Rasmussen

Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 5:18 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

It's quite common to have only one Windows key. That's what I have on this
full-size 6-year-old Toshiba laptop which includes a numeric pad and nearly
full-size keys. The keys which would be the six-pack are in a row next to
F12, and some features like Scroll-lock are done with another key combined
with the FN key. But I have gotten used to it.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 9:19 AM
To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

I called Asus and they told me this keyboard only has one windows key.  I
wonder if there is a way of remapping the other key to become a windows key?

-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon

Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 9:37 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

Hopefully BestBuy can answer your question.

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On July 6, 2016 8:50:36 AM Russ Kiehne  wrote:


The computer came from Bestbuy.

-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon

Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 11:34 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

You could try calling the company you bought the PC from.

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On July 5, 2016 9:13:31 AM Russ Kiehne  wrote:

Outside of having a sighted person look at the keyboard, is there a way 
of

finding out what this key does?

-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon

Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 6:56 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Russ Kiehne
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

It might be a function (FN) key. You see this key showing up on more
keyboards these days.

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On July 5, 2016 8:39:39 AM Tony C via Talk 
wrote:


The windows key that you are talking about not doing anything, probally
isn't a windows key. There are so many different configurations of
keyboard
now days. You have to pay very close attention to what keyboard you get
with
your PC and if you are buying a keyboard either wireless or whatever 
make

sure the keyboard you choose has the keys present that you need with
Window
eyes or whatever your are using.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 8:23 AM
To: Janet Brandly ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

Speaking of Asus computers, I just bought a Asus desktop computer and
found
the following:

on my old computer, on the right side of the spacebar, I had the ald 
key,

the windows key, the applications key and control key.  On this new
desktop,
the Windows key doesn't do anything?  Anyone have any idea why this is?
The
Windows key on the left side of the Spacebar does work.

-Original Message- 
From: Janet Brandly via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 8:13 AM
To: Jo Taliaferro ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

Hi Jo and All,

I also have an Asus laptop. I was very surprised to discover the lack of
the
keys you mention. I have set my caps lock key to act as the insert key.
The
page-up, page-down, and other functions have to be performed using the
function key combined with the control and shift keys. When I have to do
a
lot of typing, I use an external keyboard. When I bought the computer, I
didn't even thhink to ask whether these keys were present; I just
assumed.
Silly me!

Hope this helps,

Jan
-Original Message- 
From: Jo Taliaferro via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 7:06 AM
To: Talk
Subject: Asus PC and window eyes

I have an Asus PC and believe it or not, I cannot find the insert page 
up
our page down keys Ashley, this is a Zen book so I'm sure the keyboard 
is
limited. What do you all use and what is your experience with a 
Bluetooth

keyboard? Sorry, should be actually. I have windows 10 on the computer
and

Sound Forge Pro 11 ap released.

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

https://www.gwmicro.com/App_Central/Apps/App_Details/?scriptid=1436

Here's the help file. Feel free to post any comments here or write to me 
directly at tom.kings...@charter.net


Sound Forge Pro 11 Enhancements App
* Main Sound forge Window.
When you have a file or files open they are in what is called the data 
window.
Here are the available features. App hotkeys may be redefined in the 
Window-Eyes App Manager.

App key. Description. Example.
Control-Alt-L. Length of current file. 5 minutes 14.7 seconds.
Control-Alt-P. Current position in file. 1 minute 5.498 seconds.
Control-Alt-M. Speak peak meters. Channel 1 -0.5. Channel 2 -1.2.
(Surround sound is not currently supported.)
Control-Alt-Shift-M. Reset peak meters. Channel 1 -Inf. Channel 2 -Inf.
Control-Alt-S. Speak selection. Selected from 8.773 seconds to 29.963 
seconds. 15.189 seconds. If no audio is selected that is what will be 
voiced.

Control-Alt-Z. Speak zoom ratio. 1:2,048.
Sound forge hotkeys and what they will speak.
Up/Down, Control-Up/Down. Zoom ratio.
S or / (slash). These both toggle your selection. So if you have audio 
selected and press either it will be unselected. Press either again and 
your selection will be restored. They will speak the selection or no 
audio selected.

Control-S. Save.
Control-F4 and Control-W. Close.
Control-Z. Undo.
I, O, M. In, Out, Marker.
Control-Home, Control-End, Control-Shift-Home, Control-Shift-End. 
Beginning or end of file or Selected to beginning or end of file.


* Real-time previewing when audio is not playing.
These Sound forge keys are related to moving and selecting when a file 
is not playing. They deserve their own section because Having the app 
make them activate playback on the fly isn't really practical for 
technical reasons. If it were they would have been implemented in Sound 
forge long ago.
Skimming through your audio is what the JKL shuttle keys are for. So 
here are the keys and my take on it. Again, the problematic keys are 
those which trigger a preview playback up to the new position.


Left/Right and Shift-Left/Right.
These are the most useful and most problematic. If I tap them and wait 
for the preview to finish they work fine. If I press and hold (typically 
just the arrows as shifted selection is rather impractical in this 
manner) that also works fine. However, shifted arrows are fine for 
nudging selection start and end points in either direction to extend or 
decrease the selection. Note: I have configured these not to trigger the 
preview until the key is released. So you will not get the stuttering 
effect heard in another screen-reader's script, which I honestly don't 
see the point of in the first place. Again, this is the purpose of the 
JKL shuttle keys.


The problem comes in when we go in between these extremes and tap these 
keys at a moderate pace and while the preview is still playing. This can 
cause very strange reactions, particularly with the right arrow. It may 
scroll backwards or jump to the end of the file. So proceed with caution.


When you want to make a selection or move to a particular point I 
recommend using the JKL shuttle keys to get as close as possible. J 
back, K pause, L forward. Pressing J or L a second or third time goes 
from normal speed to faster to fastest. Once you get the hang of it you 
can zero in pretty good with these keys. Then use the arrow keys and the 
Up/Down ratio keys to get right where you want to be.


Control-Shift-K previews up to the current position. If you're selecting 
something to cut Control-K plays before and after as if it were cut.


Control-Left/Right.
These keys will also trigger a preview. However I presume you will 
primarily be using them to jump to markers. In that case they work fine 
provided you don't have a hundred markers and aren't maniacally rifling 
through your file.


Control-Shift-Left/Right.
I presume these keys will be used to select between one marker and 
another, i.e. dial into the beginning of your selection with JKL and 
arrows and drop a marker. Then do the same for the end of the selection. 
And finally, Control-Shift-Left to select from your end marker to your 
beginning marker. This will trigger playback of the selected audio.


Page Up/Down and Control-Page Up/Down.
These move in large and larger increments and preview as well. Try to 
heed the above warning. I haven't really tested these much as I don't 
see the use. If you do just check the time with Control-Alt-P to make 
sure things are going your way.


* Processing time.
Processing time is voiced when complete, i.e. Processing time (Wave 
Hammer): 2.234 seconds.

Note: Some processes which execute quickly do not display processing time.

* Configuration and processor (plug-in) windows.
Alt-O Options, P Preferences, General tab.
This window now works as a list box so that the options and the related 
icon check boxes read as a single line.
Field names and data now work when adjusted using custom control faders 
and 

Re: Asus PC and window eyes

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I have been observing this discussion for a long time. I now realize I only 
have one Windows  key. I bought my HP Pavillion desktop in 2012. Laptop are 
another matter. I gbuess my greater concern would like in having a number 
pad, numlock, and an application key, which I have.


-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Friday, July 08, 2016 7:57 AM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

This is the first PC I ran across with only one windows key.

-Original Message- 
From: Lloyd Rasmussen

Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 5:18 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

It's quite common to have only one Windows key. That's what I have on this
full-size 6-year-old Toshiba laptop which includes a numeric pad and nearly
full-size keys. The keys which would be the six-pack are in a row next to
F12, and some features like Scroll-lock are done with another key combined
with the FN key. But I have gotten used to it.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 9:19 AM
To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

I called Asus and they told me this keyboard only has one windows key.  I
wonder if there is a way of remapping the other key to become a windows key?

-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon

Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 9:37 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

Hopefully BestBuy can answer your question.

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On July 6, 2016 8:50:36 AM Russ Kiehne  wrote:


The computer came from Bestbuy.

-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon

Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 11:34 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

You could try calling the company you bought the PC from.

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On July 5, 2016 9:13:31 AM Russ Kiehne  wrote:

Outside of having a sighted person look at the keyboard, is there a way 
of

finding out what this key does?

-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon

Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 6:56 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Russ Kiehne
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

It might be a function (FN) key. You see this key showing up on more
keyboards these days.

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On July 5, 2016 8:39:39 AM Tony C via Talk 
wrote:


The windows key that you are talking about not doing anything, probally
isn't a windows key. There are so many different configurations of
keyboard
now days. You have to pay very close attention to what keyboard you get
with
your PC and if you are buying a keyboard either wireless or whatever 
make

sure the keyboard you choose has the keys present that you need with
Window
eyes or whatever your are using.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 8:23 AM
To: Janet Brandly ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

Speaking of Asus computers, I just bought a Asus desktop computer and
found
the following:

on my old computer, on the right side of the spacebar, I had the ald 
key,

the windows key, the applications key and control key.  On this new
desktop,
the Windows key doesn't do anything?  Anyone have any idea why this is?
The
Windows key on the left side of the Spacebar does work.

-Original Message- 
From: Janet Brandly via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 8:13 AM
To: Jo Taliaferro ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

Hi Jo and All,

I also have an Asus laptop. I was very surprised to discover the lack of
the
keys you mention. I have set my caps lock key to act as the insert key.
The
page-up, page-down, and other functions have to be performed using the
function key combined with the control and shift keys. When I have to do
a
lot of typing, I use an external keyboard. When I bought the computer, I
didn't even thhink to ask whether these keys were present; I just
assumed.
Silly me!

Hope this helps,

Jan
-Original Message- 
From: Jo Taliaferro via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 7:06 AM
To: Talk
Subject: Asus PC and window eyes

I have an Asus PC and believe it or not, I cannot find the insert page 
up
our page down keys Ashley, this is a Zen book so I'm sure the keyboard 
is
limited. What do you all use and what is your experience with a 
Bluetooth

keyboard? Sorry, should be actually. I have windows 10 on the computer
and
Microsoft support removed my version of window eyes when they were
reinstalling office 2016 for me.   I would like to use Microsoft outlook
but
no one seems to be able to get Outlook to work with my other Microsoft
office programs, 

Re: Asus PC and window eyes

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

This is the first PC I ran across with only one windows key.

-Original Message- 
From: Lloyd Rasmussen

Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 5:18 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

It's quite common to have only one Windows key. That's what I have on this
full-size 6-year-old Toshiba laptop which includes a numeric pad and nearly
full-size keys. The keys which would be the six-pack are in a row next to
F12, and some features like Scroll-lock are done with another key combined
with the FN key. But I have gotten used to it.




Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 9:19 AM
To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

I called Asus and they told me this keyboard only has one windows key.  I
wonder if there is a way of remapping the other key to become a windows key?

-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon

Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2016 9:37 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

Hopefully BestBuy can answer your question.

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On July 6, 2016 8:50:36 AM Russ Kiehne  wrote:


The computer came from Bestbuy.

-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon

Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 11:34 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

You could try calling the company you bought the PC from.

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On July 5, 2016 9:13:31 AM Russ Kiehne  wrote:

Outside of having a sighted person look at the keyboard, is there a way 
of

finding out what this key does?

-Original Message- 
From: Marc Solomon

Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 6:56 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; Russ Kiehne
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

It might be a function (FN) key. You see this key showing up on more
keyboards these days.

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On July 5, 2016 8:39:39 AM Tony C via Talk 
wrote:


The windows key that you are talking about not doing anything, probally
isn't a windows key. There are so many different configurations of
keyboard
now days. You have to pay very close attention to what keyboard you get
with
your PC and if you are buying a keyboard either wireless or whatever 
make

sure the keyboard you choose has the keys present that you need with
Window
eyes or whatever your are using.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2016 8:23 AM
To: Janet Brandly ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

Speaking of Asus computers, I just bought a Asus desktop computer and
found
the following:

on my old computer, on the right side of the spacebar, I had the ald 
key,

the windows key, the applications key and control key.  On this new
desktop,
the Windows key doesn't do anything?  Anyone have any idea why this is?
The
Windows key on the left side of the Spacebar does work.

-Original Message- 
From: Janet Brandly via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 8:13 AM
To: Jo Taliaferro ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Asus PC and window eyes

Hi Jo and All,

I also have an Asus laptop. I was very surprised to discover the lack of
the
keys you mention. I have set my caps lock key to act as the insert key.
The
page-up, page-down, and other functions have to be performed using the
function key combined with the control and shift keys. When I have to do
a
lot of typing, I use an external keyboard. When I bought the computer, I
didn't even thhink to ask whether these keys were present; I just
assumed.
Silly me!

Hope this helps,

Jan
-Original Message- 
From: Jo Taliaferro via Talk

Sent: Monday, July 04, 2016 7:06 AM
To: Talk
Subject: Asus PC and window eyes

I have an Asus PC and believe it or not, I cannot find the insert page 
up
our page down keys Ashley, this is a Zen book so I'm sure the keyboard 
is
limited. What do you all use and what is your experience with a 
Bluetooth

keyboard? Sorry, should be actually. I have windows 10 on the computer
and
Microsoft support removed my version of window eyes when they were
reinstalling office 2016 for me.   I would like to use Microsoft outlook
but
no one seems to be able to get Outlook to work with my other Microsoft
office programs, especially Microsoft word. I feel very stuck and have
wanted to figure this out on my own and now I'm in way over my head. Any
help please I did ask for a link from the support staff but apparently 
it

did not come through. Spyware is web root which Best Buy installed for
me.
It might be blocking The installation of other software. I can tell it's
going to be a long day

Jo Taliaferro
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Re: still problems with unvoiced links

[Tom Kingston via Talk]

Linette,

The F8 selection method is only valid in browse mode. So if you're not 
in browse mode use the standard shifted keys method to select text. When 
you hear "not a valid key press" you're in browse mode but it's not 
working. The only way I can get into this state is by manually turning 
on browse mode in a composition window. And there's no way out of it 
that I'm aware of. I have to close Thunderbird and open it again to get 
things back to normal. This is a bug because you shouldn't be able to 
turn on browse mode in what is essentially an edit window. This is why 
if you try to turn on browse mode in Notepad you hear "browse mode not 
available." Conversely, you cannot do anything if you open a message 
you've received, which will turn on browse mode, and you turn it off.


So you have to know whether you're in browse mode or not because the 
selection method differs depending on that state. When you open a 
message to read you should be in browse mode and F8 should work. When 
you create a new message to write or reply to one you should not be in 
browse mode and the standard shifted keys selection method should work. 
But no matter where you are you should not turn browse mode on or off 
manually because both will land you in an unfunctional state and the 
only way out is to close Thunderbird and reopen it.


Hth,
Tom


On 7/7/2016 8:54 PM, Linette Sukup via Talk wrote:



Mr. Kingston, you gave me the following instructions: I was to go to the
beginning of the link to be copied, then press F8; then I reached the
end of the link, I was to press F8 again, and a menu for copying it
would appear.
Well, nothing happens. If browse mode is off, at least in Thunderbird,
there is no speech; if I press space after pressing the second F8, WE
says "Not a valid key press."
I'm guessing that there is some setting that needs to be changed. I hope
that my explanation is clear.
Windows 8, latest Thunderbird, We 9.4.

Peace.
Linette

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