Re: longshot

[Brandon Misch via Talk]

thanks guys. i can easily get the upgrade file just can't get my full 
window-eyes copy. what is doug doing these days?

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RE: longshot

[Sky Mundell via Talk]

What's Doug Geoffray doing now?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 9:52 PM
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Subject: Re: longshot

I doubt if you can get anything.  Doug is no longer with them.  Sad Sad
days.
73
Butch
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2017, Brenda via Talk wrote:

> You could write to Doug Geoffrey or VFO tech support.  They used to send
you 
> a link that was valid for 3 days. Hopefully they still do this.  Or
perhaps 
> you could ask Doug for a disk. They used to sell them for $20, maybe under

> the circumstances they would just mail you one but who knows.
>
> good luck,
> hth
> brenda
>
> On 7/14/2017 9:44 PM, Brandon Misch via Talk wrote:
>>  Hey guys don't know if anyone on here is still involved with window-eyes
>>  now that it's been discontinued. But, i thought i would ask here is
there
>>  anyway i can get my full window-eyes version emailed to me? tried
calling
>>  ai squared and no help so thought i would ask on here in case some of
the
>>  old developers were still around. thanks
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longshot,

[mack via Talk]

try this link,
 http://www.gwmicro.com/Window-Eyes/Upgrades/index.php?serial=P092x3=0 
replace my serial number with your's from Mack
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Re: longshot

[Butch Bussen via Talk]

I doubt if you can get anything.  Doug is no longer with them.  Sad Sad 
days.

73
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On Fri, 14 Jul 2017, Brenda via Talk wrote:

You could write to Doug Geoffrey or VFO tech support.  They used to send you 
a link that was valid for 3 days. Hopefully they still do this.  Or perhaps 
you could ask Doug for a disk. They used to sell them for $20, maybe under 
the circumstances they would just mail you one but who knows.


good luck,
hth
brenda

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 Hey guys don't know if anyone on here is still involved with window-eyes
 now that it's been discontinued. But, i thought i would ask here is there
 anyway i can get my full window-eyes version emailed to me? tried calling
 ai squared and no help so thought i would ask on here in case some of the
 old developers were still around. thanks
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RE: trying to update Jaws

[Butch Bussen via Talk]

Thanks.  Isn't that only available in the pro version?

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Re: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

[Reeva Webb via Talk]

Hims has been on its own and separate from gw micro for a long while now.
So I wouldn't worry about sendero. However I second the recommendation of
nearby explorer. I have it for android and it's worth the $80.

"the world has been against you from day one, tomorrow's never promised
night has just begun, so sing with me we're all fucked" Walls Of Jericho

Reeva

On Jul 14, 2017 8:51 PM, "net bat via Talk" 
wrote:

> take a look at the near by explorer app if you have a i phone or android
> fone.
> or tablet if it has gps built in.
>
> http://tech.aph.org/ne/
> it only costs $80 for the full version.
> if you use the on board maps and points of interest it will not use any
> cellular data so it is low cost to use.
> you could try the free android version. but this one uses  the google maps
> and
> points of interest so it would use cellular data and it is less responsive
> then
> useing the on board data files.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Brenda via Talk
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 5:31 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question
>
> Good evening list
>
> tonite I was surfing the Blind Tech Podcasts on my iPhone and came
> across a very depressing one dated May 26 where they were talking about
> in with the new and out with the old and how Window-eyes is no more.
> One of them stated words to the effect that VFO wanted everyone to use
> one screen reader.  Also, mention was made of Jaws market share (my
> words) in the voc rehab community.
>
> I'm wondering if Window-Eyes will be the beginning of a trend where
> awesome technology gets gobbled up and lost in the future.
>
> I ask this because I'm toying with purchasing Sendero's Seeing Eye
> GPS-Xt app.  Thing is, Sendero lists a bunch of companies they are
> somehow affiliated with - and one of those companies is Hims which used
> to be affiliated with GW.  Hims used to make the book Sense, but that
> has changed into a product called, I think, Blaze, probably no more
> support for Book Sense although, like W-E, it is probably still in use.
>
> Hims-GW --  Window-eyes gone.  could Hims-Sendero mean the Seeing Eye
> GPs XT app will be short lived?
>
> This may seem like an off topic question, but being Window-Eyes loyal
> users perhaps listers will best understand my concern and perhapsprovide
> me with some input.  I'm a little leary of spending cash (even at the
> discounted convention price) only to find my chosen technology disappear
> or left unsupported in a few years.
>
> I look forward to any feedback on or off list.
>
> Brenda
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Re: longshot

[Brenda via Talk]

You could write to Doug Geoffrey or VFO tech support.  They used to send 
you a link that was valid for 3 days. Hopefully they still do this.  Or 
perhaps you could ask Doug for a disk. They used to sell them for $20, 
maybe under the circumstances they would just mail you one but who knows.


good luck,
hth
brenda

On 7/14/2017 9:44 PM, Brandon Misch via Talk wrote:
Hey guys don't know if anyone on here is still involved with window-eyes 
now that it's been discontinued. But, i thought i would ask here is 
there anyway i can get my full window-eyes version emailed to me? tried 
calling ai squared and no help so thought i would ask on here in case 
some of the old developers were still around. thanks

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Re: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

[net bat via Talk]

take a look at the near by explorer app if you have a i phone or android fone.
or tablet if it has gps built in.

http://tech.aph.org/ne/
it only costs $80 for the full version.
if you use the on board maps and points of interest it will not use any
cellular data so it is low cost to use.
you could try the free android version. but this one uses  the google maps and
points of interest so it would use cellular data and it is less responsive then
useing the on board data files.




-Original Message- 
From: Brenda via Talk

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 5:31 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

Good evening list

tonite I was surfing the Blind Tech Podcasts on my iPhone and came
across a very depressing one dated May 26 where they were talking about
in with the new and out with the old and how Window-eyes is no more.
One of them stated words to the effect that VFO wanted everyone to use
one screen reader.  Also, mention was made of Jaws market share (my
words) in the voc rehab community.

I'm wondering if Window-Eyes will be the beginning of a trend where
awesome technology gets gobbled up and lost in the future.

I ask this because I'm toying with purchasing Sendero's Seeing Eye
GPS-Xt app.  Thing is, Sendero lists a bunch of companies they are
somehow affiliated with - and one of those companies is Hims which used
to be affiliated with GW.  Hims used to make the book Sense, but that
has changed into a product called, I think, Blaze, probably no more
support for Book Sense although, like W-E, it is probably still in use.

Hims-GW --  Window-eyes gone.  could Hims-Sendero mean the Seeing Eye
GPs XT app will be short lived?

This may seem like an off topic question, but being Window-Eyes loyal
users perhaps listers will best understand my concern and perhapsprovide
me with some input.  I'm a little leary of spending cash (even at the
discounted convention price) only to find my chosen technology disappear
or left unsupported in a few years.

I look forward to any feedback on or off list.

Brenda
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longshot

[Brandon Misch via Talk]

Hey guys don't know if anyone on here is still involved with 
window-eyes now that it's been discontinued. But, i thought i would ask 
here is there anyway i can get my full window-eyes version emailed to 
me? tried calling ai squared and no help so thought i would ask on here 
in case some of the old developers were still around. thanks

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RE: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

[Sky Mundell via Talk]

Unfortunately, JAWS was and still is always the screen reader of choice for
voc rehab. Due to this, other products like Window-Eyes had a harder time of
getting to the top due to JAWS having the lead in the market.  The reason
why JAWS came into existence in the first place was that Ted Henter, who
originally developed it, found shortcomings in the other dos products.  He
used one called Vert but he found shortcomings in Vert so he got an investor
and he developed JAWS for dos and then for windows.  There are a lot of
people where I live who have never even tried Window-Eyes before. Some do
own it but the majority of them have always used JAWS right from the start
and they don't see the need to change screen readers. They probably might
stick with JAWS until the day they die.

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Behalf Of Brenda via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 5:32 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

Good evening list

tonite I was surfing the Blind Tech Podcasts on my iPhone and came across a
very depressing one dated May 26 where they were talking about in with the
new and out with the old and how Window-eyes is no more. 
One of them stated words to the effect that VFO wanted everyone to use one
screen reader.  Also, mention was made of Jaws market share (my
words) in the voc rehab community.

I'm wondering if Window-Eyes will be the beginning of a trend where awesome
technology gets gobbled up and lost in the future.

I ask this because I'm toying with purchasing Sendero's Seeing Eye GPS-Xt
app.  Thing is, Sendero lists a bunch of companies they are somehow
affiliated with - and one of those companies is Hims which used to be
affiliated with GW.  Hims used to make the book Sense, but that has changed
into a product called, I think, Blaze, probably no more support for Book
Sense although, like W-E, it is probably still in use.

Hims-GW --  Window-eyes gone.  could Hims-Sendero mean the Seeing Eye GPs XT
app will be short lived?

This may seem like an off topic question, but being Window-Eyes loyal users
perhaps listers will best understand my concern and perhapsprovide me with
some input.  I'm a little leary of spending cash (even at the discounted
convention price) only to find my chosen technology disappear or left
unsupported in a few years.

I look forward to any feedback on or off list.

Brenda
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RE: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

[Sky Mundell via Talk]

Can you send me the URL for the blind tech podcast?

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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 5:32 PM
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Subject: Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

Good evening list

tonite I was surfing the Blind Tech Podcasts on my iPhone and came across a
very depressing one dated May 26 where they were talking about in with the
new and out with the old and how Window-eyes is no more. 
One of them stated words to the effect that VFO wanted everyone to use one
screen reader.  Also, mention was made of Jaws market share (my
words) in the voc rehab community.

I'm wondering if Window-Eyes will be the beginning of a trend where awesome
technology gets gobbled up and lost in the future.

I ask this because I'm toying with purchasing Sendero's Seeing Eye GPS-Xt
app.  Thing is, Sendero lists a bunch of companies they are somehow
affiliated with - and one of those companies is Hims which used to be
affiliated with GW.  Hims used to make the book Sense, but that has changed
into a product called, I think, Blaze, probably no more support for Book
Sense although, like W-E, it is probably still in use.

Hims-GW --  Window-eyes gone.  could Hims-Sendero mean the Seeing Eye GPs XT
app will be short lived?

This may seem like an off topic question, but being Window-Eyes loyal users
perhaps listers will best understand my concern and perhapsprovide me with
some input.  I'm a little leary of spending cash (even at the discounted
convention price) only to find my chosen technology disappear or left
unsupported in a few years.

I look forward to any feedback on or off list.

Brenda
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Re: QUERY

[George Savory via Talk]

Please remember that system restore has many roll back points. I would
select a restore point just before I had accidentally uninstalled a
program. Just be careful not to roll your machine back too far, but
just where you made a mistake. Windows updates would automatically be
restored if any were affected by system restore.

On 7/14/17, anthony borg via Talk  wrote:
> HI CHRIS
>
> I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR EXPLANATION AND HOW RESKI IT MIGHT BE,
>
>
>
> INFACT THAT'S WHAT I DID, I DOWNLOADED IT FROM THE INTERNET AND REINSTALLED
> IT.
>
>
>
> THE ONLY REASON  THAT I WANTED TO LEARN HOW TO DO SYSTEM RESTORE IS IF IN
> CASE I REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKE, BUT I HAVE TO BE VERY SURE HOW TO DO IT.
>
>
>
> THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR A GOOD INSTRUCTIONS OF THE PROCEDURE.
>
> MANY THANKS FOR YOUR HELP,
>
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>
> ALL THE BEST
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Window-Eyes as a trend setter anda question

[Brenda via Talk]

Good evening list

tonite I was surfing the Blind Tech Podcasts on my iPhone and came 
across a very depressing one dated May 26 where they were talking about 
in with the new and out with the old and how Window-eyes is no more. 
One of them stated words to the effect that VFO wanted everyone to use 
one screen reader.  Also, mention was made of Jaws market share (my 
words) in the voc rehab community.


I'm wondering if Window-Eyes will be the beginning of a trend where 
awesome technology gets gobbled up and lost in the future.


I ask this because I'm toying with purchasing Sendero's Seeing Eye 
GPS-Xt app.  Thing is, Sendero lists a bunch of companies they are 
somehow affiliated with - and one of those companies is Hims which used 
to be affiliated with GW.  Hims used to make the book Sense, but that 
has changed into a product called, I think, Blaze, probably no more 
support for Book Sense although, like W-E, it is probably still in use.


Hims-GW --  Window-eyes gone.  could Hims-Sendero mean the Seeing Eye 
GPs XT app will be short lived?


This may seem like an off topic question, but being Window-Eyes loyal 
users perhaps listers will best understand my concern and perhapsprovide 
me with some input.  I'm a little leary of spending cash (even at the 
discounted convention price) only to find my chosen technology disappear 
or left unsupported in a few years.


I look forward to any feedback on or off list.

Brenda
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RE: trying to update Jaws

[Sky Mundell via Talk]

Its Similar to the remote access function in Window-Eyes.

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Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 2:37 PM
To: 'Butch Bussen'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: trying to update Jaws

Tandam is the tool where you can remote into other peoples computers using
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 2:32 PM
To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws

I must have missed something.  What is "tandom" version?
On Fri, 14 Jul
2017, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

> The check for updates will be available if you have jaws with tandom.  
> I had the non tandom version of jaws.
>
> -Original Message- From: Tony C
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 6:51 AM
> To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws
>
>   Hi, That's weird, I just went and looked and I have the check for 
> updates unders the help menu in Jaws...
>
> -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 7:29 AM
> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws
>
> IN my case, having the non tandom version, the check for updates was 
> not available.  Now that I now have the tandom version, the check for 
> updates is available.
>
> -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:20 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws
>
> Are you saying that if I have the choice in help to check for updates, 
> that I do indeed have the tandem version?
>
> On 7/13/2017 8:12 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
>>  I had to remove the non tandom version of jaws and install the 
>> tandom  version.  All is working as it should.  Inow have the option 
>> to check for  updates.
>>
>>  -Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
>>  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:04 AM
>>  To: 'brice Mijares' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>>  Subject: RE: trying to update Jaws
>>
>>  Maybe your not waiting enough.
>>  My update installed perfectly yesterday.
>>
>>  Pastor Gil
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>>  On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
>>  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 7:49 AM
>>  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>  Subject: trying to update Jaws
>>
>>  Well, yesterday I tried updating Jaws to it's latest release through 
>> Help,  check for updates. It reported an update and I went through 
>> the procedure  of  updating, it reported starting download and stayed 
>> at zero percent. Tried  it  twice and gave up. Never had this problem 
>> with wineyes in 20 years. I'll  just wait until fall's major update.
>> Anyhow, Jaws is my last choice, I use  wineyes, then NVDA before 
>> using Jaws!
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RE: trying to update Jaws

[Sky Mundell via Talk]

Tandam is the tool where you can remote into other peoples computers using
JAWS.

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 2:32 PM
To: Russ Kiehne; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws

I must have missed something.  What is "tandom" version?
On Fri, 14 Jul
2017, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

> The check for updates will be available if you have jaws with tandom.  
> I had the non tandom version of jaws.
>
> -Original Message- From: Tony C
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 6:51 AM
> To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws
>
>   Hi, That's weird, I just went and looked and I have the check for 
> updates unders the help menu in Jaws...
>
> -Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 7:29 AM
> To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws
>
> IN my case, having the non tandom version, the check for updates was 
> not available.  Now that I now have the tandom version, the check for 
> updates is available.
>
> -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:20 AM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws
>
> Are you saying that if I have the choice in help to check for updates, 
> that I do indeed have the tandem version?
>
> On 7/13/2017 8:12 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
>>  I had to remove the non tandom version of jaws and install the 
>> tandom  version.  All is working as it should.  Inow have the option 
>> to check for  updates.
>>
>>  -Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
>>  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:04 AM
>>  To: 'brice Mijares' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
>>  Subject: RE: trying to update Jaws
>>
>>  Maybe your not waiting enough.
>>  My update installed perfectly yesterday.
>>
>>  Pastor Gil
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: Talk 
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
>>  On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
>>  Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 7:49 AM
>>  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>  Subject: trying to update Jaws
>>
>>  Well, yesterday I tried updating Jaws to it's latest release through 
>> Help,  check for updates. It reported an update and I went through 
>> the procedure  of  updating, it reported starting download and stayed 
>> at zero percent. Tried  it  twice and gave up. Never had this problem 
>> with wineyes in 20 years. I'll  just wait until fall's major update. 
>> Anyhow, Jaws is my last choice, I use  wineyes, then NVDA before 
>> using Jaws!
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Re: trying to update Jaws

[Butch Bussen via Talk]

I must have missed something.  What is "tandom" version?
On Fri, 14 Jul 
2017, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:


The check for updates will be available if you have jaws with tandom.  I had 
the non tandom version of jaws.


-Original Message- From: Tony C
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 6:51 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws

  Hi, That's weird, I just went and looked and I have the check for
updates unders the help menu in Jaws...

-Original Message- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 7:29 AM
To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws

IN my case, having the non tandom version, the check for updates was not
available.  Now that I now have the tandom version, the check for updates is
available.

-Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:20 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws

Are you saying that if I have the choice in help to check for updates,
that I do indeed have the tandem version?

On 7/13/2017 8:12 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:

 I had to remove the non tandom version of jaws and install the tandom
 version.  All is working as it should.  Inow have the option to check for
 updates.

 -Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:04 AM
 To: 'brice Mijares' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
 Subject: RE: trying to update Jaws

 Maybe your not waiting enough.
 My update installed perfectly yesterday.

 Pastor Gil

 -Original Message-
 From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
 On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 7:49 AM
 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Subject: trying to update Jaws

 Well, yesterday I tried updating Jaws to it's latest release through Help,
 check for updates. It reported an update and I went through the procedure
 of
 updating, it reported starting download and stayed at zero percent. Tried
 it
 twice and gave up. Never had this problem with wineyes in 20 years. I'll
 just wait until fall's major update. Anyhow, Jaws is my last choice, I use
 wineyes, then NVDA before using Jaws!
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Re: QUERY

[Tom Fairhurst via Talk]

I have been following this thread and strongly agree. I had to do System 
Restore twice with sighted help to recover Windows. I have used it myself to 
get rid of programs that ci couldn't remove with Programs and Features. One 
would certainly not use System Restore if there is a risk of restoring a 
virus. You should be careful in using it. It can be used without sighted 
assistance when run normally. If you are concerned about security updates, 
these usually can be reapplied easily since Windows or your security program 
will likely prompt you to reinstall them after the System Restore is 
complete.


-Original Message- 
From: anthony borg via Talk

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:33 PM
To: anthony borg
Subject: QUERY

HI CHRIS

I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR EXPLANATION AND HOW RESKI IT MIGHT BE,



INFACT THAT'S WHAT I DID, I DOWNLOADED IT FROM THE INTERNET AND REINSTALLED
IT.



THE ONLY REASON  THAT I WANTED TO LEARN HOW TO DO SYSTEM RESTORE IS IF IN
CASE I REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKE, BUT I HAVE TO BE VERY SURE HOW TO DO IT.



THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR A GOOD INSTRUCTIONS OF THE PROCEDURE.

MANY THANKS FOR YOUR HELP,



ALL THE BEST

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QUERY

[anthony borg via Talk]

HI CHRIS 

I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR EXPLANATION AND HOW RESKI IT MIGHT BE, 

 

INFACT THAT'S WHAT I DID, I DOWNLOADED IT FROM THE INTERNET AND REINSTALLED
IT. 

 

THE ONLY REASON  THAT I WANTED TO LEARN HOW TO DO SYSTEM RESTORE IS IF IN
CASE I REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKE, BUT I HAVE TO BE VERY SURE HOW TO DO IT. 

 

THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR A GOOD INSTRUCTIONS OF THE PROCEDURE. 

MANY THANKS FOR YOUR HELP, 

 

ALL THE BEST  

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RE: trying to update Jaws

[Amanda Lee via Talk]

Mine hung at my work location at 97 percent and I tried 2 additional times
to update.  Will revisit it on Monday as can't afford a lot of downtime.
Profiles are rather secured here but they did give me Power User Access so
doubt it's related to my type of access or lack there of.  
At least good to know that others besides myself are fffected.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+amandainparadise777=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Tony C via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:28 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws

Mine did sit there for a few minutes before the download started.

-Original Message- 
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 10:04 AM
To: 'brice Mijares' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: trying to update Jaws

Maybe your not waiting enough.
My update installed perfectly yesterday.

Pastor Gil

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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 7:49 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: trying to update Jaws

Well, yesterday I tried updating Jaws to it's latest release through Help,
check for updates. It reported an update and I went through the procedure of
updating, it reported starting download and stayed at zero percent. Tried it
twice and gave up. Never had this problem with wineyes in 20 years. I'll
just wait until fall's major update. Anyhow, Jaws is my last choice, I use
wineyes, then NVDA before using Jaws!
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Re: trying to update Jaws

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

The check for updates will be available if you have jaws with tandom.  I had 
the non tandom version of jaws.


-Original Message- 
From: Tony C

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 6:51 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws

   Hi, That's weird, I just went and looked and I have the check for
updates unders the help menu in Jaws...

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 7:29 AM
To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws

IN my case, having the non tandom version, the check for updates was not
available.  Now that I now have the tandom version, the check for updates is
available.

-Original Message- 
From: brice Mijares via Talk

Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:20 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws

Are you saying that if I have the choice in help to check for updates,
that I do indeed have the tandem version?

On 7/13/2017 8:12 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
I had to remove the non tandom version of jaws and install the tandom 
version.  All is working as it should.  Inow have the option to check for 
updates.


-Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:04 AM
To: 'brice Mijares' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: trying to update Jaws

Maybe your not waiting enough.
My update installed perfectly yesterday.

Pastor Gil

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 7:49 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: trying to update Jaws

Well, yesterday I tried updating Jaws to it's latest release through Help,
check for updates. It reported an update and I went through the procedure 
of
updating, it reported starting download and stayed at zero percent. Tried 
it

twice and gave up. Never had this problem with wineyes in 20 years. I'll
just wait until fall's major update. Anyhow, Jaws is my last choice, I use
wineyes, then NVDA before using Jaws!
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Re: trying to update Jaws

[Tony C via Talk]

   Hi, That's weird, I just went and looked and I have the check for 
updates unders the help menu in Jaws...


-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne via Talk

Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 7:29 AM
To: brice Mijares ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws

IN my case, having the non tandom version, the check for updates was not
available.  Now that I now have the tandom version, the check for updates is
available.

-Original Message- 
From: brice Mijares via Talk

Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:20 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws

Are you saying that if I have the choice in help to check for updates,
that I do indeed have the tandem version?

On 7/13/2017 8:12 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
I had to remove the non tandom version of jaws and install the tandom 
version.  All is working as it should.  Inow have the option to check for 
updates.


-Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:04 AM
To: 'brice Mijares' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: trying to update Jaws

Maybe your not waiting enough.
My update installed perfectly yesterday.

Pastor Gil

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 7:49 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: trying to update Jaws

Well, yesterday I tried updating Jaws to it's latest release through Help,
check for updates. It reported an update and I went through the procedure 
of
updating, it reported starting download and stayed at zero percent. Tried 
it

twice and gave up. Never had this problem with wineyes in 20 years. I'll
just wait until fall's major update. Anyhow, Jaws is my last choice, I use
wineyes, then NVDA before using Jaws!
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Re: trying to update Jaws

[Russ Kiehne via Talk]

IN my case, having the non tandom version, the check for updates was not 
available.  Now that I now have the tandom version, the check for updates is 
available.


-Original Message- 
From: brice Mijares via Talk

Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:20 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: trying to update Jaws

Are you saying that if I have the choice in help to check for updates,
that I do indeed have the tandem version?

On 7/13/2017 8:12 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
I had to remove the non tandom version of jaws and install the tandom 
version.  All is working as it should.  Inow have the option to check for 
updates.


-Original Message- From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:04 AM
To: 'brice Mijares' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: trying to update Jaws

Maybe your not waiting enough.
My update installed perfectly yesterday.

Pastor Gil

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+gilp=embarqmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of brice Mijares via Talk
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 7:49 AM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: trying to update Jaws

Well, yesterday I tried updating Jaws to it's latest release through Help,
check for updates. It reported an update and I went through the procedure 
of
updating, it reported starting download and stayed at zero percent. Tried 
it

twice and gave up. Never had this problem with wineyes in 20 years. I'll
just wait until fall's major update. Anyhow, Jaws is my last choice, I use
wineyes, then NVDA before using Jaws!
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O.T. Window Events Sound Effects Sometimes not Working

[peter Chin via Talk]

Hello List,

Sometimes I just can't get my sound effects under the Windows Events to 
work. Can anyone explain why that happens and how I can get it to work 
consistently?


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