Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard,and crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite

2016-03-10 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk 
The keyboard navigation keys for the menus in IE 11 and Thunderbird work 
exactly the same whether the menu is visible or not. Alt still focuses 
the menu bar and Alt-F, Alt-E, Alt-V, etc. open the related menus. So I 
have no idea what the point of Control-Alt-F is.


Regards,
Tom


On 3/10/2016 4:50 PM, Jim via Talk wrote:

Hi there!
When I want to bring up a menu, I generally press the 'context menu key'
or AKA the 'right mouse button key'.  This almost always does the trick
for me.  I can just press the right button on my physical mouse but that
could very well yield some strange results depending on where the mouse
pointer might be..?  I have been using this method since I got my first
windows computer-a win98 system.  FYI it is located on the right hand
side of my keyboard the second keyleft of the control key, right of the
windows key. Suspect that I didn't have to put that last bit in, but
there are many varieties of key boards.Just my bit of wisdom.
Have A Good 1! de
.
On 10-Mar-16 15:57, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:

The only thing I have pressed  to bring up the menus is the alt key. I
don't know about the rest of this.  Pam.

-Original Message- From: Loy via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:15 PM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard,and
crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite

In IE it Brings up menu bar. You can go to view and toolbars and check
menu and then you don't need to use this command.
"1 John 4:11  Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one
another."
 - Original Message -  From: Don H via Talk
 To: Manny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:53 PM
 Subject: Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and
crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite


 What is control alt f supposed to do?  Not familiar with that hot key
 combination.

 On 3/9/2016 7:40 PM, Manny via Talk wrote:
 > Hi to all,
 > WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard and sometimes mouse, crashes
 > explorer when pressing control alt f in I.E. 11, Thunderbird, and
Elite..
 > I have been able to reboot computer by doing the following:
 > 1 unplugging keyboard and mouse and  and reattaching to usb port
 > 2  restarting explorer.exe in task manager
 > 3 closing all windows that are still responding
 > 4 restarting the computer.
 > Houston we have a problem!
 >
 >
 > Stay well,
 > Manny
 >
 > A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
 >
 > "May we all find comfort and courage to love without regard for
parting,
 > to explore without regard for pitfalls, and to give without regard for
 > return."
 >
 > Katherine Kama'ema'e Smith
 > Freelance Writing Services
 > Superior Content to Support Your Company, Non-Profit or Brand
 >
 > 808-268-0787
 >
 > www.honupublications.com
 >
 > checkout my live performance -- -- -- -- -- - --
 > please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy
 > performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. **
 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g
 >
 > computer specs:
 > Window Eyes 9.3,
 > Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10,
 >   with 8 gb RAM, Intel Quad core Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz,
 > 1066 MHz drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and
 > Driver Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than
that
 > Driver Booster is a great program.
 > Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp,
Fritz
 > 12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security
essential,
 > Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform,
 > Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag
 >
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Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard,and crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite

2016-03-10 Thread Jim via Talk 

Hi there!
When I want to bring up a menu, I generally press the 'context menu key' 
or AKA the 'right mouse button key'.  This almost always does the trick 
for me.  I can just press the right button on my physical mouse but that 
could very well yield some strange results depending on where the mouse 
pointer might be..?  I have been using this method since I got my first 
windows computer-a win98 system.  FYI it is located on the right hand 
side of my keyboard the second keyleft of the control key, right of the 
windows key. Suspect that I didn't have to put that last bit in, but 
there are many varieties of key boards.Just my bit of wisdom.

Have A Good 1! de
.
On 10-Mar-16 15:57, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
The only thing I have pressed  to bring up the menus is the alt key.  
I don't know about the rest of this.  Pam.


-Original Message- From: Loy via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:15 PM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard,and 
crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite


In IE it Brings up menu bar. You can go to view and toolbars and check 
menu and then you don't need to use this command.
"1 John 4:11  Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one 
another."

 - Original Message -  From: Don H via Talk
 To: Manny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:53 PM
 Subject: Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and 
crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite



 What is control alt f supposed to do?  Not familiar with that hot key
 combination.

 On 3/9/2016 7:40 PM, Manny via Talk wrote:
 > Hi to all,
 > WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard and sometimes mouse, crashes
 > explorer when pressing control alt f in I.E. 11, Thunderbird, and 
Elite..

 > I have been able to reboot computer by doing the following:
 > 1 unplugging keyboard and mouse and  and reattaching to usb port
 > 2  restarting explorer.exe in task manager
 > 3 closing all windows that are still responding
 > 4 restarting the computer.
 > Houston we have a problem!
 >
 >
 > Stay well,
 > Manny
 >
 > A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
 >
 > "May we all find comfort and courage to love without regard for 
parting,

 > to explore without regard for pitfalls, and to give without regard for
 > return."
 >
 > Katherine Kama'ema'e Smith
 > Freelance Writing Services
 > Superior Content to Support Your Company, Non-Profit or Brand
 >
 > 808-268-0787
 >
 > www.honupublications.com
 >
 > checkout my live performance -- -- -- -- -- - --
 > please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy
 > performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. **
 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g
 >
 > computer specs:
 > Window Eyes 9.3,
 > Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10,
 >   with 8 gb RAM, Intel Quad core Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz,
 > 1066 MHz drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and
 > Driver Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than 
that

 > Driver Booster is a great program.
 > Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp, 
Fritz
 > 12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security 
essential,

 > Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform,
 > Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag
 >
 >
 >
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Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard,and crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite

2016-03-10 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk 
The only thing I have pressed  to bring up the menus is the alt key.  I 
don't know about the rest of this.  Pam.


-Original Message- 
From: Loy via Talk

Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:15 PM
To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard,and 
crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite


In IE it Brings up menu bar. You can go to view and toolbars and check menu 
and then you don't need to use this command.
"1 John 4:11  Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one 
another."
 - Original Message - 
 From: Don H via Talk

 To: Manny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
 Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:53 PM
 Subject: Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and 
crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite



 What is control alt f supposed to do?  Not familiar with that hot key
 combination.

 On 3/9/2016 7:40 PM, Manny via Talk wrote:
 > Hi to all,
 > WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard and sometimes mouse, crashes
 > explorer when pressing control alt f in I.E. 11, Thunderbird, and 
Elite..

 > I have been able to reboot computer by doing the following:
 > 1 unplugging keyboard and mouse and  and reattaching to usb port
 > 2  restarting explorer.exe in task manager
 > 3 closing all windows that are still responding
 > 4 restarting the computer.
 > Houston we have a problem!
 >
 >
 > Stay well,
 > Manny
 >
 > A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
 >
 > "May we all find comfort and courage to love without regard for parting,
 > to explore without regard for pitfalls, and to give without regard for
 > return."
 >
 > Katherine Kama'ema'e Smith
 > Freelance Writing Services
 > Superior Content to Support Your Company, Non-Profit or Brand
 >
 > 808-268-0787
 >
 > www.honupublications.com
 >
 > checkout my live performance -- -- -- -- -- - --
 > please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy
 > performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. **
 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g
 >
 > computer specs:
 > Window Eyes 9.3,
 > Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10,
 >   with 8 gb RAM, Intel Quad core Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz,
 > 1066 MHz drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and
 > Driver Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that
 > Driver Booster is a great program.
 > Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp, Fritz
 > 12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security essential,
 > Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform,
 > Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag
 >
 >
 >
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Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite

2016-03-09 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk 
Keyboard navigation works the same whether the menu bar is visible or 
not. the Alt key will still focus the menu bar and all the shortcut keys 
still work, ie. Alt-F, Alt-E, Alt-V, Etc.


Hth,
Tom


On 3/9/2016 9:15 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:

In IE it Brings up menu bar. You can go to view and toolbars and check menu and 
then you don't need to use this command.
"1 John 4:11  Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another."
   - Original Message -
   From: Don H via Talk
   To: Manny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
   Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:53 PM
   Subject: Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and 
crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite


   What is control alt f supposed to do?  Not familiar with that hot key
   combination.

   On 3/9/2016 7:40 PM, Manny via Talk wrote:
   > Hi to all,
   > WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard and sometimes mouse, crashes
   > explorer when pressing control alt f in I.E. 11, Thunderbird, and Elite..
   > I have been able to reboot computer by doing the following:
   > 1 unplugging keyboard and mouse and  and reattaching to usb port
   > 2  restarting explorer.exe in task manager
   > 3 closing all windows that are still responding
   > 4 restarting the computer.
   > Houston we have a problem!
   >
   >
   > Stay well,
   > Manny
   >
   > A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
   >
   > "May we all find comfort and courage to love without regard for parting,
   > to explore without regard for pitfalls, and to give without regard for
   > return."
   >
   > Katherine Kama'ema'e Smith
   > Freelance Writing Services
   > Superior Content to Support Your Company, Non-Profit or Brand
   >
   > 808-268-0787
   >
   > www.honupublications.com
   >
   > checkout my live performance -- -- -- -- -- - --
   > please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy
   > performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. **
   > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g
   >
   > computer specs:
   > Window Eyes 9.3,
   > Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10,
   >   with 8 gb RAM, Intel Quad core Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz,
   > 1066 MHz drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and
   > Driver Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that
   > Driver Booster is a great program.
   > Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp, Fritz
   > 12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security essential,
   > Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform,
   > Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag
   >
   >
   >
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Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite

2016-03-09 Thread Loy via Talk 
In IE it Brings up menu bar. You can go to view and toolbars and check menu and 
then you don't need to use this command.
"1 John 4:11  Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another."
  - Original Message - 
  From: Don H via Talk 
  To: Manny ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:53 PM
  Subject: Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and 
crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite


  What is control alt f supposed to do?  Not familiar with that hot key 
  combination.

  On 3/9/2016 7:40 PM, Manny via Talk wrote:
  > Hi to all,
  > WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard and sometimes mouse, crashes
  > explorer when pressing control alt f in I.E. 11, Thunderbird, and Elite..
  > I have been able to reboot computer by doing the following:
  > 1 unplugging keyboard and mouse and  and reattaching to usb port
  > 2  restarting explorer.exe in task manager
  > 3 closing all windows that are still responding
  > 4 restarting the computer.
  > Houston we have a problem!
  >
  >
  > Stay well,
  > Manny
  >
  > A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
  >
  > "May we all find comfort and courage to love without regard for parting,
  > to explore without regard for pitfalls, and to give without regard for
  > return."
  >
  > Katherine Kama'ema'e Smith
  > Freelance Writing Services
  > Superior Content to Support Your Company, Non-Profit or Brand
  >
  > 808-268-0787
  >
  > www.honupublications.com
  >
  > checkout my live performance -- -- -- -- -- - --
  > please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy
  > performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. **
  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g
  >
  > computer specs:
  > Window Eyes 9.3,
  > Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10,
  >   with 8 gb RAM, Intel Quad core Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz,
  > 1066 MHz drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and
  > Driver Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that
  > Driver Booster is a great program.
  > Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp, Fritz
  > 12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security essential,
  > Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform,
  > Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag
  >
  >
  >
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Re: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite

2016-03-09 Thread Loy via Talk 
Works fine here in IE 11, don't have TB to test.
"1 John 4:11  Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another."
  - Original Message - 
  From: Manny via Talk 
  To: Window-Eyes Discussion List ; WE SUPPORT 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:40 PM
  Subject: Control alt f WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard, and 
crashesexplorer in Thunderbird, I.E11, and Elite


  Hi to all,
  WE9.4 goes silent, crashes keyboard and sometimes mouse, crashes 
  explorer when pressing control alt f in I.E. 11, Thunderbird, and Elite..
  I have been able to reboot computer by doing the following:
  1 unplugging keyboard and mouse and  and reattaching to usb port
  2  restarting explorer.exe in task manager
  3 closing all windows that are still responding
  4 restarting the computer.
  Houston we have a problem!


  Stay well,
  Manny

  A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:

  "May we all find comfort and courage to love without regard for parting, 
  to explore without regard for pitfalls, and to give without regard for 
  return."

  Katherine Kama'ema'e Smith
  Freelance Writing Services
  Superior Content to Support Your Company, Non-Profit or Brand

  808-268-0787

  www.honupublications.com

  checkout my live performance -- -- -- -- -- - --
  please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy 
  performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. **
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fbevlz10g

  computer specs:
  Window Eyes 9.3,
  Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10,
with 8 gb RAM, Intel Quad core Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 
  1066 MHz drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and 
  Driver Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that 
  Driver Booster is a great program.
  Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp, Fritz 
  12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security essential, 
  Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform,
  Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag



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