Re: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and internet explorer

[Reg Webb via Talk]

-Annoyingly for anyone trying to replicate this, it happens to me too,
but only sometimes, and I've no idea why.

Restarting W-E restores readability in an edit box.

-
Reg


On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 14:11:57 +
Marc Solomon via Talk  wrote:

> Bob,
> I just tried entering text into the Write a comment edit box on the Mobile 
> Facebook. After entering a few words, I then used my Left and Right Arrow 
> keys to review the text. I repeated this test several times. I was unable to 
> reproduce the issue you reported in this particular case. I tried using both 
> Firefox 44 and IE 11 using the Window-Eyes 9.3.1 under Windows 10 Pro  
> version 15211 32-bit. But, I was able to reproduce the issue you reported on 
> the Amazon website. In both IE 11 and Firefox 44, after typing into the 
> unlabeled search edit box towards the top of the page, Window-Eyes stopped 
> speaking the characters when navigating with Left and Right Arrows. With that 
> said, I could only reproduce this issue once in each browser and now it is 
> working every time I test it. Maybe you are already know about this, but 
> Amazon has created a version of their website optimized for screen readers at 
> www.amazon.com/access. I am  not a big fan of creating a separate website for 
> accessib
 il
>  ity but if it provides a better experience and doesn't limit any 
> functionality, it might be worth checking out. These types of intermittent 
> issues can be very frustrating and can impact your productivity. If you can 
> find a way to reliably duplicate this issue on demand, please let us know as 
> it will give us a much better chance of identifying the cause and possibly 
> creating a solution.
> Regards,
> Marc
> 
>  -Original Message-
> From: bob jutzi [mailto:ju...@windstream.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:37 AM
> To: Marc Solomon ; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> 
> Subject: Re: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and 
> internet explorer
> 
> Mark, this happens when posting comments on FB Mobile or entering text 
> in Amazon search boxes.  I am able to enter info, but not read itusing 
> arrow keys.  Occasionally, the CTRL-Alt-W Window-eyes relaunch fixes 
> things.I do have Compatibility mode enabled.
> On 2/16/2016 7:04 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:
> > Bob,
> > Can you provide a specific web page where you can't fill out a form and the 
> > steps to duplicate? I would like to try and duplicate the issue on my Win 
> > 8.1 and 10 PCs.
> > Regards,
> > Marc
> >
> > Sent with AquaMail for Android
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> >
> >
> > On February 16, 2016 6:57:53 PM bob jutzi via Talk 
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Neglected to indicate that I've experienced both under Windows 8 and 10.
> >>
> >> On 2/16/2016 6:54 PM, bob jutzi via Talk wrote:
> >>> No luck for me using the latest Thunderbird and Window-eyes.
> >>> I still am unable to edit messages in Thunderbird as well as edit forms
> >>> in IE or Firefox.  This is completely unacceptible as I have no issues
> >>> with either using the free screen reader.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2/16/2016 6:41 PM, Neville via Talk wrote:
>  Hi,
>  The following is a copy of a message sent to the list  a couple of times
>  in the past few months but here it is again.
> 
>  The modifications work well in W7 but it seems it does not work in W8
>  and W10.
>  Neville.
> 
>  Using: W7 HP 32 bit, latest versions of WE, Firefox and Thunderbird
> 
> 
>  Use the three steps below to make both Firefox and Thunderbird
>  accessible with the mouse just like they used to be.  I was able to use
>  WE to make the necessary changes  in Thunderbird but needed sighted
>  assistance for Firefox.  For some reason WE kept loosing speech in the
>  case of Firefox but maybe NVDA would work.
> 
> 
>  A similar method has been around for a while but never had any success
>  with it but these three steps really work.  In short, I was amazed with
>  the change in mouse accessibility the alterations made.
> 
> 
>  Hopefully, someone can come up with a method to make Chrome mouse
>  accessible as well.
> 
> 
>  Unfortunately it is not known for sure whether this technique will work
>  as well under W8 and W10 as it does under W7 32 and 64 bit. If you do
>  try it under W8 or W10, please inform the list of your results. i.e.
>  Either positive or negative.
> 
> 
>  HTH
> 
>  Neville.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  This is the three steps needed to fix the mouse cursor problem.
> 
> 
>  The third step is the new one.  You do have to arrow down many times to
>  find it.  A lot do seem to sound the same, so be careful you get the
>  correct one to change.
> 
> 
> 
>  block quote
> 

Re: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and internet explorer

[bob jutzi via Talk]

Mark, this happens when posting comments on FB Mobile or entering text 
in Amazon search boxes.  I am able to enter info, but not read itusing 
arrow keys.  Occasionally, the CTRL-Alt-W Window-eyes relaunch fixes 
things.I do have Compatibility mode enabled.

On 2/16/2016 7:04 PM, Marc Solomon via Talk wrote:

Bob,
Can you provide a specific web page where you can't fill out a form and the 
steps to duplicate? I would like to try and duplicate the issue on my Win 8.1 
and 10 PCs.
Regards,
Marc

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On February 16, 2016 6:57:53 PM bob jutzi via Talk  
wrote:


Neglected to indicate that I've experienced both under Windows 8 and 10.

On 2/16/2016 6:54 PM, bob jutzi via Talk wrote:

No luck for me using the latest Thunderbird and Window-eyes.
I still am unable to edit messages in Thunderbird as well as edit forms
in IE or Firefox.  This is completely unacceptible as I have no issues
with either using the free screen reader.


On 2/16/2016 6:41 PM, Neville via Talk wrote:

Hi,
The following is a copy of a message sent to the list  a couple of times
in the past few months but here it is again.

The modifications work well in W7 but it seems it does not work in W8
and W10.
Neville.

Using: W7 HP 32 bit, latest versions of WE, Firefox and Thunderbird


Use the three steps below to make both Firefox and Thunderbird
accessible with the mouse just like they used to be.  I was able to use
WE to make the necessary changes  in Thunderbird but needed sighted
assistance for Firefox.  For some reason WE kept loosing speech in the
case of Firefox but maybe NVDA would work.


A similar method has been around for a while but never had any success
with it but these three steps really work.  In short, I was amazed with
the change in mouse accessibility the alterations made.


Hopefully, someone can come up with a method to make Chrome mouse
accessible as well.


Unfortunately it is not known for sure whether this technique will work
as well under W8 and W10 as it does under W7 32 and 64 bit. If you do
try it under W8 or W10, please inform the list of your results. i.e.
Either positive or negative.


HTH

Neville.




This is the three steps needed to fix the mouse cursor problem.


The third step is the new one.  You do have to arrow down many times to
find it.  A lot do seem to sound the same, so be careful you get the
correct one to change.



block quote

1. Open the Configuration Editor. In Firefox, enter

about:config

   in the address bar. In Thunderbird, go to the Tools menu and navigate
to Options, Advanced, General, then Config Editor.

2. Once in the Configuration editor, press TAB until you are in the list
of options.

3. Pressing UP or DOWN ARROW will move you between options or typing the
first few letters of an option's name will move you to a specific option
in the


list.

the following are entries to search for:


gfx.direct2d.disabled

if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the

value to true.


layers.acceleration.disabled

if the boolean value is set to false, press the enter key to toggle the

value to true.


layers.offmainthreadcomposition.enabled

if the boolean value is set to true, press the enter key to toggle the

value to false.


press control+w to close the configuration window.

restart Thunderbird/Firefox.


On 17/02/2016 3:16 AM, Smith, Veronica via Talk wrote:

I have that exact problem and I have 9.3. I would love to find out how
to fix this. V

-Original Message-
From: Talk
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Behalf Of Casey via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:53 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox,
and internet explorer

Hi I am using window-eyes 9.0 and windows 7.
How do you get the mouse keys in window-eyes to read in Firefox,
Thunderbird, and internet explorer?
I used to be able to do this.
Then I had Microsoft remote in to my computer and they had to do A
repair on windows and then didn't delete anything.
But now when I try to read with the3 mouse in any of the programs that I
stated earlier in this message.
all is I get is DING, DING, DING.
When I try


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RE: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and internet explorer

[Smith, Veronica via Talk]

I have that exact problem and I have 9.3. I would love to find out how to fix 
this. V  

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of Casey via Talk
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:53 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: how to get the mouse keys to read in thunderbird, firefox, and 
internet explorer

Hi I am using window-eyes 9.0 and windows 7.
How do you get the mouse keys in window-eyes to read in Firefox, 
Thunderbird, and internet explorer?
I used to be able to do this.
Then I had Microsoft remote in to my computer and they had to do A 
repair on windows and then didn't delete anything.
But now when I try to read with the3 mouse in any of the programs that I 
stated earlier in this message.
all is I get is DING, DING, DING.
When I try
-- 
Casey
to read with the mouse keys in any of those programs.
I am soon going to upgrade to the latest version of window-eyes.
So then will that fix this also?

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