RE: combo boxes and drop down boxes
Thanks Steve, you make it sound so simple. Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+paulette=evickery@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via Talk Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 6:48 AM To: bjn...@windstream.net; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: combo boxes and drop down boxes Hi, With any screen reader and combos, just press Alt Down Arrow to open them and Alt-Up arrow when you've made your selection. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: 07 June 2017 17:58 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access to select desired account number WITH ENTER and arrow. Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an application I was filling out. In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read and adjust my entries. It is a little time consuming but doable. Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws? Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions. I will try the INSERT-B once I get the drop-down thing figured out. Thanks, Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/paulette%40evi ckery.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: combo boxes and drop down boxes
Did I get it correct, and the initial poster will happen to have a similar box on their banking site as the one I get locally, the Alt-Down-Arrow does nothing. Neither in WinEyes, nor in NVDA, nor in Jaws. As a matter of fact, the box I see for determining which account to charge, and similarly the one for choosing the recipient, these are reported by the screen reader to be an Editbox. Yet, if you do not enter anything in the box, but simply just use the Up-/Down arrows, you will change the account number or name from the list you have on record. Why the screen readers recognize these boxes as Editting fields, and not as Combobox or anything else, I have never really understood. Maybe the screen readers should start to recognize them as Editable Combos, and read the contents as you arrow through it. I can confirm the technique of tab, shift-tabbing, for reading the updated contents. Mainly I have only seen this behavior on my banking site, and seem to remember seeing it on ONE other website. Probably this kind of controls might be a new, or extended type, that the screen readers should be updated to operate with. Still, might be a challenge, till they get more generally used. Unless you happen to be among the users who see it all the time in your online banking, you might not even be aware this kind of controls exist, or even how to cope with them. And of course, being in the banking system, noone else can be pointed there, to see the behavior, or what causes it. On 6/8/2017 12:47 PM, Steve Nutt via Talk wrote: > Hi, > > With any screen reader and combos, just press Alt Down Arrow to open them > and Alt-Up arrow when you've made your selection. > > All the best > > Steve > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk > Sent: 07 June 2017 17:58 > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> > Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes > > On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access to > select desired account number WITH ENTER and arrow. > Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an application > I was filling out. > > In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read and > adjust my entries. It is a little time consuming but doable. > > Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws? > > Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions. I will try the INSERT-B once > I get the drop-down thing figured out. > > Thanks, > Brenda > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro > om.co.uk. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author > and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > . > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: quick transaction on bank site wasRe: combo boxes and drop down boxes
Table navigation in JAWS is with ctrl-alt-arrows, like changing speech parameters in Window-Eyes. As I demonstrated to some folks yesterday, every combination of screen reader and browser works differently, and they can also behave differently depending on whether you use Tab and shift-Tab, or arrow keys, and some of your screen reader's browse settings. Have patience. Try things. Work with the help system and the training webinars that have been produced over the past several years. It's all there, but not always easy to find. Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com -Original Message- From: Brenda via Talk Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 4:36 PM To: Chris G via Talk Subject: quick transaction on bank site wasRe: combo boxes and drop down boxes Well, pressing ALT at the dropdown/combo box first didn't work, but when I remembered to press enter when on/at a dropdown/combo list I was able to arrow through them with Window-Eyes. In Jaws, I had to listen to a whole lot of verbage before I found where I was. I could change the dropdown to various accounts, but it was hit or miss, and in that area the numpad arrows didn't seem to work. CNTRL-HOME took me to the top, or if I couldn't get that to work tab or shift-tab got me out of the quick transaction area. It is a whole lot of trial and a lot of error. In the quick transaction area Jaws did say "3 rows 5 columns" but I wasn't sure how to use that info. I can use W-E for now, but eventually, especially with Win10, I'm going to have a problem. Any suggestions on how to use my banking site in Jaws as I do with W-E? Brenda On 6/7/2017 2:44 PM, Chris G via Talk wrote: Before you start to arrow through the combo box, try alt-down arrow first. That may work. Chris Grabowski Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. https://www.MysticAccess.com Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more. Contact: Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500) Twitter: MysticAccess Facebook: mysticaccessempower Original Message From: Brenda via Talk Sent: Wednesday, Jun 7, 2017 12:58 PM EST To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access to select desired account number WITH ENTER and arrow. Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an application I was filling out. In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read and adjust my entries. It is a little time consuming but doable. Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws? Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions. I will try the INSERT-B once I get the drop-down thing figured out. Thanks, Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jedikent%40mysticaccess.email. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bjnite%40windstream.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/lras%40sprynet.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://li
RE: combo boxes and drop down boxes
Hi, With any screen reader and combos, just press Alt Down Arrow to open them and Alt-Up arrow when you've made your selection. All the best Steve -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steve=comproom.co...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: 07 June 2017 17:58 To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access to select desired account number WITH ENTER and arrow. Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an application I was filling out. In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read and adjust my entries. It is a little time consuming but doable. Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws? Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions. I will try the INSERT-B once I get the drop-down thing figured out. Thanks, Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/steve%40compro om.co.uk. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: quick transaction on bank site wasRe: combo boxes and drop down boxes
Learn Jaws. That will be the easiest. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 4:36 PM To: Chris G via Talk Subject: quick transaction on bank site wasRe: combo boxes and drop down boxes Well, pressing ALT at the dropdown/combo box first didn't work, but when I remembered to press enter when on/at a dropdown/combo list I was able to arrow through them with Window-Eyes. In Jaws, I had to listen to a whole lot of verbage before I found where I was. I could change the dropdown to various accounts, but it was hit or miss, and in that area the numpad arrows didn't seem to work. CNTRL-HOME took me to the top, or if I couldn't get that to work tab or shift-tab got me out of the quick transaction area. It is a whole lot of trial and a lot of error. In the quick transaction area Jaws did say "3 rows 5 columns" but I wasn't sure how to use that info. I can use W-E for now, but eventually, especially with Win10, I'm going to have a problem. Any suggestions on how to use my banking site in Jaws as I do with W-E? Brenda On 6/7/2017 2:44 PM, Chris G via Talk wrote: > Before you start to arrow through the combo box, try alt-down arrow first. > That may work. > > > > Chris Grabowski > Mystic Access > Where the magic is in learning. > https://www.MysticAccess.com > Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while > actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio > tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer > eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter > containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free > downloads, and so much more. > Contact: > Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500) > Twitter: MysticAccess > Facebook: mysticaccessempower > > > Original Message > From: Brenda via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, Jun 7, 2017 12:58 PM EST > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes > > On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access > to select desired account number WITH ENTER and arrow. > Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an > application I was filling out. > > In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read > and adjust my entries. It is a little time consuming but doable. > > Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws? > > Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions. I will try the > INSERT-B once I get the drop-down thing figured out. > > Thanks, > Brenda > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jedikent%40mys ticaccess.email. > > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > ___ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bjnite%40winds tream.net. > > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/dennisl1982%40 gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
quick transaction on bank site wasRe: combo boxes and drop down boxes
Well, pressing ALT at the dropdown/combo box first didn't work, but when I remembered to press enter when on/at a dropdown/combo list I was able to arrow through them with Window-Eyes. In Jaws, I had to listen to a whole lot of verbage before I found where I was. I could change the dropdown to various accounts, but it was hit or miss, and in that area the numpad arrows didn't seem to work. CNTRL-HOME took me to the top, or if I couldn't get that to work tab or shift-tab got me out of the quick transaction area. It is a whole lot of trial and a lot of error. In the quick transaction area Jaws did say "3 rows 5 columns" but I wasn't sure how to use that info. I can use W-E for now, but eventually, especially with Win10, I'm going to have a problem. Any suggestions on how to use my banking site in Jaws as I do with W-E? Brenda On 6/7/2017 2:44 PM, Chris G via Talk wrote: Before you start to arrow through the combo box, try alt-down arrow first. That may work. Chris Grabowski Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. https://www.MysticAccess.com Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more. Contact: Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500) Twitter: MysticAccess Facebook: mysticaccessempower Original Message From: Brenda via Talk Sent: Wednesday, Jun 7, 2017 12:58 PM EST To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access to select desired account number WITH ENTER and arrow. Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an application I was filling out. In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read and adjust my entries. It is a little time consuming but doable. Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws? Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions. I will try the INSERT-B once I get the drop-down thing figured out. Thanks, Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jedikent%40mysticaccess.email. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bjnite%40windstream.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: combo boxes and drop down boxes
Hi Brenda, On my banking site here in Canada, I use to struggle with a combo box until I learned that if I search for the label of the account I'm looking for, say, savings, I can go to the detailed activity in that account by simply clicking the account's labelled link. For me, it's on the main page I land on when I first log in. Hth, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Brenda via Talk Sent: June 7, 2017 12:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access to select desired account number WITH ENTER and arrow. Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an application I was filling out. In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read and adjust my entries. It is a little time consuming but doable. Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws? Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions. I will try the INSERT-B once I get the drop-down thing figured out. Thanks, Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rod_hutton%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: combo boxes and drop down boxes
Before you start to arrow through the combo box, try alt-down arrow first. That may work. Chris Grabowski Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. https://www.MysticAccess.com Ready to begin using your assistive technology with confidence while actually having fun? Visit us to learn about our comprehensive audio tutorials, one-on-one support and ongoing teleclasses. We also offer eclectic and timely assistive technology podcasts, a newsletter containing exclusive news and discounts, regularly updated free downloads, and so much more. Contact: Phone: (716) 543-3323 (Ext. 500) Twitter: MysticAccess Facebook: mysticaccessempower Original Message From: Brenda via Talk Sent: Wednesday, Jun 7, 2017 12:58 PM EST To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: combo boxes and drop down boxes On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access to select desired account number WITH ENTER and arrow. Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an application I was filling out. In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read and adjust my entries. It is a little time consuming but doable. Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws? Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions. I will try the INSERT-B once I get the drop-down thing figured out. Thanks, Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jedikent%40mysticaccess.email. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
combo boxes and drop down boxes
On my banking site I used to get combo boxes which were easy to access to select desired account number WITH ENTER and arrow. Now they seem to be drop-down boxes. I also ran into this on an application I was filling out. In Window-eyes if I arrow, shift-tab and tab back and forth I can read and adjust my entries. It is a little time consuming but doable. Is there an easier way to do this in either Window-eyes or Jaws? Thanks for the answer to my other 2 questions. I will try the INSERT-B once I get the drop-down thing figured out. Thanks, Brenda ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
