Re: [Talk-cz] Pokémoni v NJ

[Marián Kyral]

Dne 22.12.2017 v 00:47 Jan Martinec napsal(a):
> On 12/21/17 14:04, Marián Kyral wrote:
>> Ahoj,
>> v Novém Jičíně se objevil nám nový mapper, který změnil některé zahrady
>> na parky. Ani vodní nádrž mu není svatá.
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Radim19/history
>>
>> Napsal jsem mu tam komentář, uvidíme, zda se ozve.
>>
>> Marián
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> Ahoj,
>
> tenhle CS bych při nálezu rovnou revertoval a ptal se až potom - ale
> pokud už je tam několik dotazů, vyčkám věcí příštích. Zbylé dva
> vypadají jen nedotaženě, tenhle je zmatečný.
>

Po týdnu žádná odpověď. Večer/zítra udělám revert (pokud se někdo nebude
doma nudit a neudělá revert místo mně ;-) )

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Re: [talk-au] MS open maps

[Warin]

Repetition can be reduced using JOSM. Set it to 'expert mode'

Requires a plugin 'utiltools' or 'More Tools'.

Create your addresses along one street without street name, postcode, 
sub etc - just the house number.


Finished? Ok - create a node with the street name, post code etc. Now ^C 
it to put the information on the clip board.


Now select the nodes what you want to replicate the information .. then 
press the  'shift' key with the 'R' key.

Delete the node that only has the street name, post code, etc.

Repeat for each street.


On 28-Dec-17 04:22 PM, Arthur Geeson wrote:


I have been busy doing street names and house numbers for some years:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-38.09198/144.35883

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.36135/-1.98845

I normally use Potlatch and the address consists of street number and 
name, post code and suburb name for each house.  I question if it is 
necessary to add the post code and suburb name as these are implicit 
in the dwelling location. It does get very repetitive.  If these are 
required for searching purposes perhaps they could be done using 
software on the data base?  I presume it is all stored and taking up 
database space?


Arthur


On 28/12/17 12:51, Nick Hocking wrote:
Address data could also be used to verify street/road names and also 
add them where they are missing.



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Re: [talk-au] MS open maps

[Arthur Geeson]

I have been busy doing street names and house numbers for some years:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-38.09198/144.35883

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.36135/-1.98845

I normally use Potlatch and the address consists of street number and 
name, post code and suburb name for each house.  I question if it is 
necessary to add the post code and suburb name as these are implicit in 
the dwelling location. It does get very repetitive. If these are 
required for searching purposes perhaps they could be done using 
software on the data base?  I presume it is all stored and taking up 
database space?


Arthur


On 28/12/17 12:51, Nick Hocking wrote:
Address data could also be used to verify street/road names and also 
add them where they are missing.



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Re: [talk-au] MS open maps

[Nick Hocking]

Address data could also be used to verify street/road names and also add
them where they are missing.
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Re: [talk-au] MS open maps

[Warin]

On 28-Dec-17 12:30 PM, Nick Hocking wrote:


Hi Jubal

The missing OSM information in Australia that would be, by a large 
margin, the most usefull, would be address data (and building 
footprint, if available).


If we had address data then OSM maps would be usefull for the genberal 
public to use in car navigation etc.


Collecting address data manually is tedious and unsafe.  I believe 
that the address data is available for some states and if addedd to 
OSM, would make OSM the premier mapping source here.




The state of NSW address data is available through the LPI Base Map.
Most address benefit would be through the retail/commercial centres of 
cities, towns and villages.


Entering this data is tedious as there is a lot of it and visual 
motivation is lacking as it makes little visual difference to the map.




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Re: [OSM-talk] shop windows on differnt streets

[Warin]

On 28-Dec-17 08:55 AM, Greg Morgan wrote:



On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Catonano > wrote:


I hope this is the right place to ask about tagging

There s this shop that has shop windows on 2 streets
https://imgur.com/a/icpwJ

Some of its shop windows have street numbers. as shown here
https://imgur.com/a/ny08t

This is  a quite common case, as you can see here
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Vr2vKuqr1S5hjf772


Some have their shop windows separated by building entrances or a
different shop windows

How do I map these ?

My idea is that every shop window should be its own point with
address info and then a relation should group them and be tagged
with common data, such as the shop name, the web site, the phone
number, the operator, whatever

Does anyone here know of any example of a similar situation ?


I would say that it depends on your jurisdiction and how they create 
addresses.  In my case, the address is set most of the time by what 
side the water meter is on.  In that case it is easy to set the 
address except on corner buildings like you point out.  In addition, 
in newer addresses it seems that the whole structure gets an address.  
Then sub-addressing as they call it provides a suite/flat number for 
each of the shops.  I have also seen the cases that you provide.   In 
this case, I make an address point in the building polygon where the 
doorway is located. A shop window can provide the same address point 
location.  I just create a separate POI for the shop.  The address 
will remain even if the building is torn down but shop owner and 
merchandise can have great volatility.




A single shop:
Some larger 'shops' have entrances on all sides of a block - so that is 
on 4 streets. However the shop would only use one of those addresses.
You don't tag the individual windows, you tag the shop - either as a 
single node towards the shop entrance, or main entrance if it has more 
than one entrance, or you tag it as an area using a closed way.


Multiple shops:
Tag each shop separately .. they may share addresses being within the 
same building.
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Re: [talk-au] MS open maps

[Nick Hocking]

Hi Jubal

The missing OSM information in Australia that would be, by a large margin,
the most usefull, would be address data (and building footprint, if
available).

If we had address data then OSM maps would be usefull for the genberal
public to use in car navigation etc.

Collecting address data manually is tedious and unsafe.  I believe that the
address data is available for some states and if addedd to OSM, would make
OSM the premier mapping source here.

Cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Hiérarchie des relations d’itinéraire cyclistes

[marc marc]

Le 27. 12. 17 à 10:24, Axelos a écrit :
> Le 26/12/2017 à 23:17, marc marc a écrit :
>> Le 26. 12. 17 à 20:03, Axelos a écrit :
>>> J'ai donc copié mon brouillon sur une nouvelle page de proposition,
>>
>> Je n'ai pas compris ce que ta proposition a de différent par rapport à
>> l'existant.
> 
> Éviter de dupliquer les mêmes cheminements X fois.

le problème c'est que voter sur "je proposer d'éviter", cela va être 
compliqué.
soit quelque chose sur la page wiki actuelle doit être changé (par coeur 
je ne me souviens pas qu'elle interdise les relations de relations)
soit ta page wiki est plutot un tutoriel sur un exemple complexe.
soit il faut arriver à formaliser ce qu'est "éviter" par exemple :
comment mapper :
- façon simple : tous les chemins dans toutes les relations
- façon pour utilisateur + avancé : regrouper les chemins dans une 
relation enfant pour chaque section

>> Je pense qu'il faut aussi fortement simplifier l'exemple.
>> parce que dire dans le paragraphe v50 de regarder la v52 embrouille.
>> De même conseiller de regarder la v52 donne une drôle d'impression
>> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/u1Y
>> il faut mieux à mon avis prendre l'exemple le plus simple possible d'une
>> relation parent "en ordre" contenant par exemple un segment enfant
> Les chemins retournés par la recherche sont des ajouts d'un autre
> contributeur

Oui j'ai fait une erreur dans la requête, Jean-Yvon l'a corrigé.

>> Je n'ai pas compris pourquoi dans une relation enfant "pas de from=* et
>> to=*"
>> Quel problème aurait une relation Toul-Pompey avec from=Toul to=Pompey ?
> En effet c'est mal formulé, certaines boucles touristiques ont un départ
> et arrivé au même endroit. Là ce n'est pas le cas.

de même les relations enfant de la boucle ne sont chacun prise 
individuelement pas une boucle, il faut donc supprimer le rountrip 
lorsqu'il y a un from et to différent.

>> Il faut aussi la déplacer dans
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/
> Comment déplacer ?

En haut à droite, le menu "plus" te donne accès à Déplacer.

>> state=proposed mériterait un sujet à part tellement que son usage actuel
>> est problématique (le wiki que ce sont des routes qui ne sont pas encore
>> officiel ou ont besoin de négociation (?) ou de développement... mauvais
>> mélange selon moi)
> Pour moi ça me semble plutôt explicite, c'est un itinéraire non balisé
> et/ou non existant sur le terrain (ancienne voie ferré dans l'abandon
> par exemple) qui est en devenir de l’être, encore en statut de projet donc.

Il y a tellement à dire sur ce tag que tu fais mieux de faire une 
proposition = un sujet et de ne pas parler de state vu que tu ne le 
modifie pas. Sinon les critiques de ce tag vont s'ajouter inutilement à 
ta proposition.

Cordialement,
Marc


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Re: [Talk-cz] Nahrávání rozcestníků?

[Matěj Cepl]

On 2017-12-27, 16:32 GMT, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Aby tam ta ikona byla, tak musis mit zobrazenu vrstvu "fota
> rozcestniku", samostatna vrstava "chybejici rozcestniky" nestaci.

Děkuji, to bylo ono. Fakt jsem to nikde nemohl najít 
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:PhotoDB např. o tom 
nikde nehovoří).

Požehnaný Nový rok 2018,

Matěj
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Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly project Q1 2018: Petrol stations

[Andy Mabbett]

On 27 December 2017 at 21:58, Rob Nickerson  wrote:

> Given the Shell petrol station import has highlighted a lot of
> inconsistency in the way we map, the next quarterly project shall be petrol
> stations.

Let''s include electric charging points, too.

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Re: [Talk-it] aiuto su query

[demon.box]

danysan95 wrote
> node["amenity"="drinking_water"]({{bbox}})(if:count_tags() > 1);

grazie!
ciao
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Re: [Talk-it] Trinceroni

[demon.box]

...a proposito anche 

natural=cave_entrance per una cosa fatta dall'uomo non mi pare proprio
corretto, molto meglio un

man_made=cave_entrance   non sei d'accordo Simone?

ciao

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[Talk-GB] Quarterly project Q1 2018: Petrol stations

[Rob Nickerson]

Hi all,

We are fast approaching the next quarterly project (Jan-Feb-Mar 2018). We
have some great ideas from past requests but many of these require better
weather. Given the Shell petrol station import has highlighted a lot of
inconsistency in the way we map, the next quarterly project shall be petrol
stations.

There are circa 8000 in total and the balance between what can be achieved
via aerial imagery and ground surveys is good (i.e. you can get the
boundaries and building shapes from imagery).

Here is the wiki:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aamenity%3Dfuel

The first task in my mind is to be clear about our tagging. The wiki
mentions operator, brand and tennant as tags. How should we be using these?
What about the "name" tag?

Thanks,
*Rob*
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Re: [OSM-talk] shop windows on differnt streets

[Greg Morgan]

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Catonano  wrote:

> I hope this is the right place to ask about tagging
>
> There s this shop that has shop windows on 2 streets
> https://imgur.com/a/icpwJ
>
> Some of its shop windows have street numbers. as shown here
> https://imgur.com/a/ny08t
>
> This is  a quite common case, as you can see here
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Vr2vKuqr1S5hjf772
>
> Some have their shop windows separated by building entrances or a
> different shop windows
>
> How do I map these ?
>
> My idea is that every shop window should be its own point with address
> info and then a relation should group them and be tagged with common data,
> such as the shop name, the web site, the phone number, the operator,
> whatever
>
> Does anyone here know of any example of a similar situation ?
>

I would say that it depends on your jurisdiction and how they create
addresses.  In my case, the address is set most of the time by what side
the water meter is on.  In that case it is easy to set the address except
on corner buildings like you point out.  In addition, in newer addresses it
seems that the whole structure gets an address.  Then sub-addressing as
they call it provides a suite/flat number for each of the shops.  I have
also seen the cases that you provide.   In this case, I make an address
point in the building polygon where the doorway is located. A shop window
can provide the same address point location.  I just create a separate POI
for the shop.  The address will remain even if the building is torn down
but shop owner and merchandise can have great volatility.

Regards,
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Re: [Talk-it] Trinceroni

[demon.box]

liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu wrote
> Sulle trincee normali:
> 
> barrier=ditch
> disused:military=trench
> historic=trench
> man_made=yes
> width=*
> depth=* (non so se va bene per profondità)
> 
> 
> 
> per trincee coperte:
> 
> tunnel=building_passage
> layer=-1
> barrier=ditch
> disused:military=trench
> historic=trench
> man_made=yes
> width=*
> depth=*
> 
> In entrata e uscita del tunnel, se vuoi metti un generico 
> natural=cave_entrance, ricordo una discussione a riguardo, ma non si 
> arrivò a nulla, e rimase solo questa soluzione per le entrate a 
> bunker/gallerie militari nella roccia.

ciao Simone, ok concordo e recepisco l'impianto di base della tua proposta
anche se ti faccio notare che a me suona un po' strano

tunnel=building_passage visto che di fatto non si passa attraverso nessun
edificio ma è più un tunnel=yes, a parer mio...

inoltre colgo l'occasione (e sò già che muovo un vespaio) a proposito di

disused:military=trench

non è la stessa cosa fare così?

military=trench
disused=yes

non mai ben capito perchè dobbiamo incasinarci con il prefisso disused,
magari qualcuno me lo sa cortesemente spiegare?

grazie

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Re: [Talk-it] Trinceroni

[liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu]

Il 27/12/2017 21:10, demon.box ha scritto:

cascafico wrote

military=trench
covered=yes


...e tra l'altro

military=trench
covered=yes



Sulle trincee normali:

barrier=ditch
disused:military=trench
historic=trench
man_made=yes
width=*
depth=* (non so se va bene per profondità)



per trincee coperte:

tunnel=building_passage
layer=-1
barrier=ditch
disused:military=trench
historic=trench
man_made=yes
width=*
depth=*

In entrata e uscita del tunnel, se vuoi metti un generico 
natural=cave_entrance, ricordo una discussione a riguardo, ma non si 
arrivò a nulla, e rimase solo questa soluzione per le entrate a 
bunker/gallerie militari nella roccia.



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[Talk-at] toilets:wheelchair and wheelchair=unknown

[marc marc]

Hello,

First of all I apologize for writing in English, but unfortunately I am 
unable to speak German.
Do not hesitate to answer in the language of your choice, I will use a 
translator if necessary.

On the french-speaking and German mailing lists, a discussion took place 
about the problems related to wheelchair tags.
These problems have also affected Austria, it's why I'm posting this 
message.

1) change wheelchair_toilet and wheelchair:toilets to toilets:wheelchair=*
wheelchair_toilet was the old tag before the approved features 
toilets:wheelchair 4 years ago.
wheelchair:toilets was a typo on the German page (it has 
wheelchair:toilets and toilets:wheelchair)
all apps and sites I have check are using toilets:wheelchair or are 
broken but some datas have not yet been migrated
I have do a manuel fix for the 39 affectes objects in Austria
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/54954247

2) purge wheelchair=unknown toilets:wheelchair=unknown and 
wheelchair_toilet=unknown
Rationale : without a wheelchair or toilets:wheelchair tag, 
accessibility of a poi or toilets of a poi is already unknown. It was a 
bug on wheelpmap.org that added the unknown status when a user did not 
fill in all the fields or change the previous value. This bug seems 
fixed because I haven't seen a recent case.
It also happend that a mapper 'll all field that the editor show.

If no one objects, I'll fix it in a few days.

Regards,
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Re: [Talk-it] Trinceroni

[demon.box]

cascafico wrote
> military=trench
> covered=yes

...e tra l'altro

military=trench
covered=yes

non mi convince molto perchè facendo una rapida query non è mai stato
utilizzato in nessuna parte del mondo
ecco perchè mi sono inceppato.
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[Talk-us] old_ref_legislative vs. old_ref:legislative

[Albert Pundt]

Shouldn't the tag old_ref_legislative (used primarily in Pennsylvania but
applicable elsewhere) be old_ref:legislative according to current key
naming conventions? According to taginfo, old_ref_legislative
 is used by
far mostly in Pennsylvania to mark the pre-1987 legislative numbers, but a
few uses exist in California and England. In all there are over 40,000 uses
of this key. old_ref:legislative
 on the
other hand is used only in California, but still with over 18,000 uses.

Does anyone think it might be worth it to attempt to change all the
old_ref_legislative values to old_ref:legislative in line with current
tagging conventions, much like what was already done with the creation of
ref:penndot to replace using ref and penndot_ref for PA's state-owned
routes?

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Re: [Talk-it] Trinceroni

[demon.box]

Damjan Gerli wrote
> Io userei
> military=bunker  ( 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:military%3Dbunker )
> per le parti costruite e/o scavate, usate come bunker. 

ciao Damjan in effetti era anche la mia idea iniziale ma poi mi sono
bloccato perchè la pagina wiki per military=bunker che anche tu mi citi,
dice che non è utilizzabile su una way ma solo su nodo oppure area ed allora
mi sono bloccato
che dici?
grazie
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Re: [Talk-it] aiuto su query

[danysan95]

node["amenity"="drinking_water"]({{bbox}})(if:count_tags() > 1);



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Différencier aménagement cyclables sur trottoir des autres

[Nicolas Frery]

Sur trottoir c'est une piste cyclable (bien que ça n'a rien à faire sur
un trottoir). Le trottoir n'est pas une chaussée et n'est pas défini
dans le CR ni dans l'IISR, tout comme le cheminement piéton qui n'est
pas considéré comme une voie de circulation (le code de la route étant
fait pour réguler la circulation archaïque des véhicules à moteur).
Si la voie cyclable est contiguë à la chaussée et sans séparateur c'est
une bande cyclable..

Il faudrait créer une nouvelle valeur pour différencier les voies
cyclables sur trottoir d'une piste cyclable en bonne et due forme.
La législation évoluera peut-être pour enfin définir le trottoir et
dégager ces voies cyclables sur trottoir une bonne fois pour toute. Avec
une valeur spécifique, OSM serait prêt.

cycleway=sidewalk peut-être ?
Avec un cycleway:width pour bien savoir de quel type de voie il s'agit.

cycleway=sidewalk pourrait d'ailleurs être ajouté à un cheminement
piéton si la cartographie ne peut pas être précise.

Le 20/12/2017 à 14:38, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit :
> Donc c'est une bande et pas une piste cyclable puisque c'est une /voie
> exclusivement réservée aux cycles à deux ou trois roues/ et comme la
> chaussée c'est la partie d'une route aménagée pour la circulation
> 
> que cet aménagement est fait pour la circulation, il fait partie de la
> chaussée.
> Un peu tiré par les cheveux, je suis d'accord, mais sûrement pas une
> piste cyclable.
> Désigner cet aménagement comme une merde me semble plus réaliste !
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Re: [Talk-it] Trinceroni

[Damjan Gerl]

Io userei
military=bunker  ( 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:military%3Dbunker )
per le parti costruite e/o scavate, usate come bunker. Poi da vedere il 
tipo da definire con bunker_type=*

military=trench per le trincee/camminamenti aperti (non coperti).

Ciao
Damjan

27.12.2017 - 19:11 - Cascafico Giovanni:


military=trench
covered=yes


Il 27/dic/2017 18:59, "demon.box" > ha scritto:


ciao, chiedo un vostro aiuto per mappare questi che vengono chiamati
"Trinceroni".
si tratta di trincee scavate che però in alcuni tratti non sono a
cielo
aperto ma dei tunnel con bocche di entrata e di uscita. sono in
generale
purtroppo abbandonate all'incuria ma alcuni tratti sono ancora
percorribili
mentre altri sono crollati oppure quasi completamente pieni di
materiale.
copio e incollo alcune brevi descrizioni prese da internet:
"piccole trincee poste sulle colline ad ovest di Brescia sul
confine del
comune di Collebeato. Trincee costruite dai prigionieri dell'impero
Austroungarico
durante la prima guerra mondiale ed usati dalla contraerea
italiana contro i
bombardamenti degli aerei Inglesi e Americani nella seconda guerra
mondiale."
"postazioni belliche di osservazione e difesa."
ed ecco alcune foto:

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

come mi consigliate di mapparle?
oltre che come eventualmente il nodo di entrata ed uscita vorrei anche
mappare il camminamento (visto che se ne intuisce abbastanza
facilmente il
percorso) ma con quali tags?
grazie.
--enrico




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[Talk-it] aiuto su query

[demon.box]

ciao, come faccio ad estrarre tutti i nodi che abbiano anche un qualsiasi
altro tag?
mi spiego, se questo codice mi estrae tutti gli amenity=drinking_water

node
  [amenity=drinking_water]
  ({{bbox}});
out;

come faccio ad aggiungere il fatto che voglio soltanto quelli che hanno
anche un qualsiasi altro tag?
grazie
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Re: [Talk-it] Trinceroni

[demon.box]

cascafico wrote
> military=trench
> covered=yes

ciao, ok, questo sulla way e sul nodo in corrispondenza della bocca di
entrata e di uscita non metto nulla?





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Re: [Talk-it] Trinceroni

[Cascafico Giovanni]

military=trench
covered=yes

Il 27/dic/2017 18:59, "demon.box"  ha scritto:

> ciao, chiedo un vostro aiuto per mappare questi che vengono chiamati
> "Trinceroni".
> si tratta di trincee scavate che però in alcuni tratti non sono a cielo
> aperto ma dei tunnel con bocche di entrata e di uscita. sono in generale
> purtroppo abbandonate all'incuria ma alcuni tratti sono ancora percorribili
> mentre altri sono crollati oppure quasi completamente pieni di materiale.
> copio e incollo alcune brevi descrizioni prese da internet:
> "piccole trincee poste sulle colline ad ovest di Brescia sul confine del
> comune di Collebeato. Trincee costruite dai prigionieri dell'impero
> Austroungarico
> durante la prima guerra mondiale ed usati dalla contraerea italiana contro
> i
> bombardamenti degli aerei Inglesi e Americani nella seconda guerra
> mondiale."
> "postazioni belliche di osservazione e difesa."
> ed ecco alcune foto:
>
> 
>
>  >
>
>  >
>
>  >
>
>  >
>
>  >
>
>  >
>
> 
>
> 
>
> come mi consigliate di mapparle?
> oltre che come eventualmente il nodo di entrata ed uscita vorrei anche
> mappare il camminamento (visto che se ne intuisce abbastanza facilmente il
> percorso) ma con quali tags?
> grazie.
> --enrico
>
>
>
>
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[Talk-it] Trinceroni

[demon.box]

ciao, chiedo un vostro aiuto per mappare questi che vengono chiamati
"Trinceroni".
si tratta di trincee scavate che però in alcuni tratti non sono a cielo
aperto ma dei tunnel con bocche di entrata e di uscita. sono in generale
purtroppo abbandonate all'incuria ma alcuni tratti sono ancora percorribili
mentre altri sono crollati oppure quasi completamente pieni di materiale.
copio e incollo alcune brevi descrizioni prese da internet:
"piccole trincee poste sulle colline ad ovest di Brescia sul confine del
comune di Collebeato. Trincee costruite dai prigionieri dell'impero
Austroungarico
durante la prima guerra mondiale ed usati dalla contraerea italiana contro i
bombardamenti degli aerei Inglesi e Americani nella seconda guerra
mondiale."
"postazioni belliche di osservazione e difesa."
ed ecco alcune foto:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

come mi consigliate di mapparle?
oltre che come eventualmente il nodo di entrata ed uscita vorrei anche
mappare il camminamento (visto che se ne intuisce abbastanza facilmente il
percorso) ma con quali tags?
grazie.
--enrico




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[OSM-talk] shop windows on differnt streets

[Catonano]

I hope this is the right place to ask about tagging

There s this shop that has shop windows on 2 streets
https://imgur.com/a/icpwJ

Some of its shop windows have street numbers. as shown here
https://imgur.com/a/ny08t

This is  a quite common case, as you can see here
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Vr2vKuqr1S5hjf772

Some have their shop windows separated by building entrances or a different
shop windows

How do I map these ?

My idea is that every shop window should be its own point with address info
and then a relation should group them and be tagged with common data, such
as the shop name, the web site, the phone number, the operator, whatever

Does anyone here know of any example of a similar situation ?

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Re: [Talk-cz] Nahrávání rozcestníků?

[Miroslav Suchý]

Dne 27.12.2017 v 17:10 Zdeněk Pražák napsal(a):
> otevřeš si https://openstreetmap.cz/
> zde je vpravo nahoře ikona přidat obrázek, klikneš na ni, vybereš
> obrázek a pokud má souřadnice v EXIF tak klikneš na nahrát obrázek,
> pokud nemá souřadnice v exif, tak je vybereš kliknutím do mapy v místě
> umístění obrázku a dáš nahrát obrázek

Aby tam ta ikona byla, tak musis mit zobrazenu vrstvu "fota
rozcestniku", samostatna vrstava "chybejici rozcestniky" nestaci.
Mirek



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Re: [Talk-cz] Nahrávání rozcestníků?

[Zdeněk Pražák]

otevřeš si https://openstreetmap.cz/
zde je vpravo nahoře ikona přidat obrázek, klikneš na ni, vybereš obrázek a
pokud má souřadnice v EXIF tak klikneš na nahrát obrázek, pokud nemá
souřadnice v exif, tak je vybereš kliknutím do mapy v místě umístění obrázku
a dáš nahrát obrázek

to je vše
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Předmět: [Talk-cz] Nahrávání rozcestníků?
"Dobrý den,

mám tady z léta jeden rozcestník na náměstí v Dolních
Věstonicích (https://is.gd/El8qkl), ale nějak jsem se nepopral
s tím nahrávátkem na https://openstreetmap.cz/photodb resp.
vůbec se mi ho nepodařilo najít. Existuje někde nějaký rozumný
návod, jak na to?

Požehnaný příští rok 2018!

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[Talk-cz] Nahrávání rozcestníků?

[Matěj Cepl]

Dobrý den,

mám tady z léta jeden rozcestník na náměstí v Dolních 
Věstonicích (https://is.gd/El8qkl), ale nějak jsem se nepopral 
s tím nahrávátkem na https://openstreetmap.cz/photodb resp.  
vůbec se mi ho nepodařilo najít. Existuje někde nějaký rozumný 
návod, jak na to?

Požehnaný příští rok 2018!

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Re: [Talk-es] Talleres de iniciación a OSM en Madrid

[dcapillae]

Hola,

Inicialmente he pensado en Geoinquietos Madrid por su relación con OSM. Sé
que hace poco organizaron un taller de iniciación al mapeo humanitario.
Todavía no me he puesto en contacto con ellos, aunque doy por hecho que se
animarán a colaborar. He preferido antes consultar con la lista, por si me
podéis ofrecer alguna otra referencia.

Salvo Geoinquietos Madrid, no conozco a ningún otro grupo en la capital. Si
fueran de Zaragoza, les pondría sin duda en contacto con Mapeado
Colaborativo, pero en Madrid no tengo referencias de ningún otro grupo de
usuarios.

Estoy en contacto con un grupo de personas de Madrid muy interesadas en
aprender lo básico de OSM, sobre todo en temas relacionados con la bicicleta
(aunque no sólo). He pensado que sería genial organizarles un taller de
iniciación para orientarles en sus primeros pasos y animarles a seguir
contribuyendo a mejorar el mapa de la ciudad.



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Re: [Talk-es] Talleres de iniciación a OSM en Madrid

[María Arias de Reyna]

¿Por qué no vas a los de geoinquietos?

El 27 dic. 2017 2:09 p. m., "dcapillae"  escribió:

> Saludos,
>
> ¿Conocéis algún grupo en Madrid que pueda organizar un taller de iniciación
> a OSM? He visto que Geoinquietos Madrid organiza talleres para nuevos
> contribuidores, pero desconozco si existe algún otro grupo que pudiera
> organizarlo. Hay varias personas interesadas.
>
> ¿Podéis recomendarme algún grupo con el que ponerme en contacto? ¿Conocéis
> alguna persona en Madrid que pudiera estar interesada en organizar un
> taller
> de iniciación?
>
> ¡Mil gracias!
>
>
>
> -
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Re: [Talk-it] Aiuto query Overpass

[Davide Sandona']

mitico! grazie mille.

Davide.

Il giorno 27 dicembre 2017 14:22, Andrea Albani  ha
scritto:

> C'è un esempio qui [0].
> La query ritorna nodi con la stessa identica posizione. Se ritocchi lo 0
> in around.a:0,  che esprime la posizione in metri,  puoi trovare anche nodi
> quasi sovrapposti. Dovrebbe accettare anche numeri con decimali, ma non ho
> mai provato.
> Ciao
>
> [0] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/
> Overpass_API_by_Example#Find_duplicate_nodes_.28since_0.7.54.29
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C'è un esempio qui [0].
La query ritorna nodi con la stessa identica posizione. Se ritocchi lo 0 in
around.a:0,  che esprime la posizione in metri,  puoi trovare anche nodi
quasi sovrapposti. Dovrebbe accettare anche numeri con decimali, ma non ho
mai provato.
Ciao

[0]
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_API_by_Example#Find_duplicate_nodes_.28since_0.7.54.29
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Re: [Talk-us] Potential vandalism in Northern California (Pokémon Go?)

[Andy Townsend]

On 06/12/2017 17:49, dilys...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure whether this has anything to do with Pokémon Go but a 
mapper has been adding parks on top of existing boundary relations 
(National Parks, National Forests, Wilderness Areas) in a systematic 
manner in Northern California, creating quite a mess.


Hello US folks,
The mapper who made these original edits is long gone from OSM, so what 
remains is largely a "data tidying exercise".


For info, I've looked at Shasta-Trinity National Forest and deleted the 
main _duplicate_ Shasta-Trinity NF way 
http://osm.mapki.com/history/way.php?id=487220873 (the original 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/70010/ hasn't been edited for 12 
months as so is presumably OK).  I'll also look at the smaller 
duplicates added by http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47829109 .


It'd be great if other people could have a look at some of the 
duplicates highlighted within the parent post with a view to removing 
duplicates in the other ones too.  Someone's already (correctly in my 
view) removed "leisure=park" from at least some of these.


There's also scope to map the landuse etc. within the national forest 
boundaries such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/418301052 better, 
but that will need more local mappers with local knowledge (of whom 
there are never enough to go around).  Currently in that example there 
seems to be only http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/64298706 , which is 
another import.  It's clear for example that the trees in the imagery at 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=17/40.61757/-122.94615 don't match 
what has been imported.  Areas such as this are a good drive from major 
population centers, but there are newish mappers popping up around 
Eureka and Redding so it'd be great if they continue and in the future 
add what they know about these areas too.


Best Regards,
Andy Townsend (DWG member and very occasional hiker in Northern California)


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[Talk-es] Talleres de iniciación a OSM en Madrid

[dcapillae]

Saludos,

¿Conocéis algún grupo en Madrid que pueda organizar un taller de iniciación
a OSM? He visto que Geoinquietos Madrid organiza talleres para nuevos
contribuidores, pero desconozco si existe algún otro grupo que pudiera
organizarlo. Hay varias personas interesadas.

¿Podéis recomendarme algún grupo con el que ponerme en contacto? ¿Conocéis
alguna persona en Madrid que pudiera estar interesada en organizar un taller
de iniciación?

¡Mil gracias!



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[Talk-it] Aiuto query Overpass

[Davide Sandona']

A volte capita di trovare delle intersezioni nelle highway in cui il nodo
di intersezione non è condiviso da entrambe le highway, ma è solamente
sovrapposto (ci sono quindi due o più nodi che occupano la stessa
posizione). Ciò significa che le highway di fatto non sono connesse tra
loro.

E' possibile con Overpass creare una query che trovi queste occorrenze?

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Re: [Talk-pt] rio lima

[Marcos Oliveira]

Olá Pedro,

Já arranjei, o problema é que o a linha não estava fechada, o utilizador em
questão apagou a parte faz ligação ao oceano.

No dia 26 de dezembro de 2017 às 23:13, Pedro Lima 
escreveu:

> Olá a todos,
> deparei-me com o rio Lima mais "seco"[1]
> Existe alguma forma de reverter esta edição?
>
> [1]-https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/54819286
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Re: [Talk-lv] Route relations on latvian roads

[Rihards]

On 2017.12.24. 16:57, Ilya Zverev wrote:
> Just tested the recent map with Maps.me, road shields look consistent and 
> great now. Thanks Richards!

great news - thank you Ilya for all the work to make osm better :)

> Ilya
> 
>> 21 дек. 2017 г., в 3:26, Rihards  написал(а):
>>
>> On 2017.12.21. 00:41, Rihards wrote:
>>> On 2017.07.11. 19:32, Rihards wrote:
 On 2017.07.11. 18:54, Ilya Zverev wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I have been investigating the strange case with road shield in maps.me. 
> In Latvia they are duplicated in different colors:
>
> http://not.textual.ru/zverik/2/4/latvian-shields.jpg
>
> Turns out, in route relations for roads you use network=lv:national for 
> both A and P roads and network=lv:regional for V roads. But in 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Latvia#M.C4.93r.C4.B7i P 
> roads are called regional and V are local. So basically A and P roads are 
> indistinguishable by their network tag, which strips it of meaning.
>
> Should I disable parsing road relations for Latvia, or is it possible to 
> fix this issue by retagging all the relations or inventing a new network 
> value for A roads?

 thanks a lot for spotting this. does not look right - A & P should not
 be at the same level.

 we should probably change P to lv:regional and V to lv:local

 opinions ?
>>>
>>> looks like we haven't had any objections for 5 months, i started looking
>>> into this change. discovered some V roads marked as network:national -
>>> this won't be a trivial automated edit, will need a bit more manual
>>> attention. still in progress.
>>
>> this is completed now. verification would be appreciated.
>>
>> Ilya, does this resolve the issue with the relation parsing ?
>>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Hiérarchie des relations d’itinéraire cyclistes

[Axelos]

Coucou,


Le 26/12/2017 à 23:17, marc marc a écrit :
> Le 26. 12. 17 à 20:03, Axelos a écrit :
>> J'ai donc copié mon brouillon sur une nouvelle page de proposition,
> 
> Je n'ai pas compris ce que ta proposition a de différent par rapport à 
> l'existant.


Éviter de dupliquer les mêmes cheminements X fois. C'est un exemple
local donc l'impact est plutôt limité, en revanche à long terme des
portions complètes de plusieurs centaines de kilomètres peuvent être
injecté directement dans des relations européennes.

Par exemple la V52 qui a terme fera 300-400 km pourrait être mise en
relations enfant dans une autre relation : Paris-Prague.


> Je pense qu'il faut aussi fortement simplifier l'exemple.
> parce que dire dans le paragraphe v50 de regarder la v52 embrouille.
> De même conseiller de regarder la v52 donne une drôle d'impression
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/u1Y
> il faut mieux à mon avis prendre l'exemple le plus simple possible d'une 
> relation parent "en ordre" contenant par exemple un segment enfant


Les chemins retournés par la recherche sont des ajouts d'un autre
contributeur qui tag pour le rendu et qui ne parle pas français, je n'ai
pas réussi à lui expliquer que j'utilise cette relation pour tester le
concept.
Lorsque la page sera finalisé je lui enverrais.


> Je n'ai pas compris pourquoi dans une relation enfant "pas de from=* et 
> to=*"
> Quel problème aurait une relation Toul-Pompey avec from=Toul to=Pompey ?


En effet c'est mal formulé, certaines boucles touristiques ont un départ
et arrivé au même endroit. Là ce n'est pas le cas.


> Il faut aussi la déplacer dans 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/
> Inspire toi des autres propositions pour la mise en forme proposition / 
> raisonnement (=argument)/ tag (=qu'est-ce qui est différent ou nouveau) 
> / exemple


Comment déplacer ?


> state=proposed mériterait un sujet à part tellement que son usage actuel 
> est problématique (le wiki que ce sont des routes qui ne sont pas encore 
> officiel ou ont besoin de négociation (?) ou de développement... mauvais 
> mélange selon moi)


Pour moi ça me semble plutôt explicite, c'est un itinéraire non balisé
et/ou non existant sur le terrain (ancienne voie ferré dans l'abandon
par exemple) qui est en devenir de l’être, encore en statut de projet donc.


Cordialement.

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