Re: [talk-ph] Mapbox welcomes Maning Sambale!

[George Tujan]

Awesome! Congrats Maning!

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015, 1:34 AM Lu Sevier  wrote:

> Congrats Manning! That's fantastic :) A friend from work, Kelvin
> Abrokwa-Johnson has also joined the MapBox team! Will you be doing your
> work remotely or in DC?
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Feye Andal  wrote:
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>> Congratulations, Sir Maning!
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 1:19 AM, Dale Kunce  wrote:
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>>> Congrats maning.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2015, 1:05 PM Eugene Alvin Villar 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Now the news is official: https://www.mapbox.com/blog/welcome-maning/

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Re: [talk-ph] someone just crossed the northern sierra madre mountain range!

[George Tujan]

Could be one of the Cordillera Great Traverse guys posting their tracks.
On May 12, 2015 10:52 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Load GPS tracks around this area:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/17.0489/122.3764

 ~100 km of unedited GPS tracks I assume by foot!

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Re: [talk-ph] Davao Occidental is the newest province in the Philippines

[George Tujan]

Good observation Eugene. bad names indeed!
On Nov 2, 2013 3:01 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys,

 The recent Barangay Elections was also when the plebiscite for the
 ratification of the creation of Davao Occidental province from Davao del
 Sur (R.A. 10360) was held. The residents have voted Yes by a margin of
 3:1.

 News articles:
 http://r11.pia.gov.ph/index.php?article=1561383119470

 http://www.sunstar.com.ph/davao/local-news/2013/10/29/davao-sur-voters-say-yes-davao-occidental-311236

 Politics aside, as I have said before http://www.plurk.com/p/ixzsof,
 Davao del Sur and Davao Occidental are now *really* bad names for these
 provinces. Davao del Sur is located *north* of Davao Occidental, and Davao
 Occidental is more *eastern* than Davao del Sur.


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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 50, Issue 15

[George Tujan]

Yup, both offmap 2 and the original offmap uses OSM and Cloudmade (w/c is
also OSM-based) tiles

On Sunday, September 16, 2012, samuel cruz wrote:

 hi,

 i just learned from a friend that ipad has an application, the offmap 2
 that uses odm map for philippines. not sure about this but maybe someone
 can confirm this.

 sam

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   1. Re: SOTM 2012 feedback (Eugene Alvin Villar)
   2. Re: iOS 6 using osm and tomtom? (maning sambale)
   3. Re: SOTM 2012 feedback (maning sambale)


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 Hi Mike,

 On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Michael Collinson 
 m...@ayeltd.bizjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'm...@ayeltd.biz');
 wrote:
  1) Reducing latency for general mapping for as many Filipinos as
 possible.
 
  It looks as though all Philippine mapper's traffic would get routed
 through
  a network in or around Metro Manila no matter what.  Therefore from a
  latency point of view alone, and assuming PLDT routing, um,
 peculiarities,
  could be resolved then Manila would be the best place to put a server. A
  close second would be Hong Kong ... and might be better as per Eugene's
  point.

 This reason suggests that latency is a big problem for editors in the
 Philippines. I daresay that latency is not that big a problem when
 compared to the broadband average speed of household connections in
 the country. Most households, when they have broadband connections at
 all, have an average maximum speed of around 1 Mbps. Actual speeds are
 much less than that.

 I did a ping to the OSM server from my home and I get around 400ms in
 terms of latency. But when you're editing in JOSM and downloading
 plenty of data, and especially if you also download GPS points too,
 the download and upload of data takes several seconds. And once the
 data is downloaded, JOSM will spend some time to parse the OSM XML
 data and to process it for editing, and this depends on the speed of
 one's computer. Given that kind of editing situation, latency is a
 small problem and might not be a best target for improvement. (See
 Amdahl's Law[1].)

 On the other hand, setting up a server in HK would also serve many
 Asian OSM communities like Japan and Indonesia. While this does not
 specifically target the OSMPH community, and might not foster a
 technical community, serving the Asian OSM communities might be a
 better reason for the investment than simply trying to solve network
 latency problems.

 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law



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 I also recommend osmand for android it supports:

 - offline map and routing
 - voice activated 

Re: [talk-ph] The future home of the OSMPH Garmin GPS map

[George Tujan]

Nice! Finally a one stop shop page for OSMers ;)
On Jun 28, 2012 5:22 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys,

 Here's a preview of the future location of the OSMPH Garmin GPS map:
 http://openstreetmap.org.ph/garmin/

 This web page is where users can download the latest Garmin map,
 including installers for Mac RoadTrip, and directly installable
 gmapsupp.img files (plus the mirror links). I also would like to add
 here links to tutorials, tips and tricks, and a way to send bug
 reports. For the hardcore users and developers, we can provide links
 to mkgmap (the software we use to create the Garmin map) and the
 scripts and styles we use to create the map (currently in Github:
 https://github.com/maning/osmphgps ). Of course we will encourage
 users to voluntarily contribute too. Hopefully we can provide easier
 ways to contribute such as an upload form for Garmin GDB files.

 Basically, we want this page to be the one-stop shop for the OSMPH Garmin
 map.

 So what do you guys think? Comments and suggestions are welcome. :-)

 Eugene

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Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Scholarship program to State of the Map 2011

[George Tujan]

Marloue Pidor (murlwe) already made a cheatsheet, we just need to update it
if needed.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1418629/OpenStreetMap%20cheat%20sheet.pdf

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.comwrote:

 what i wanted to have really is some sort of an OSM Philippines cheatsheet
 a quick reference guide to tags in the PH setting

 standard tags for amenities and guidelines for road tags

 this is to rapidly convert a newbie to an intermediate mapper, and
 reduce/eliminate errors/guesswork,
 like all of us went through when we initially started

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 On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 8:05 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Dear everyone,

 I am know collating my mental notes in preparation for the State of
 the PH lightning talk for SOTM2011.  And since this is a community
 presentation, I might as well ask you on what we should be presenting.

 The primary source materials of my talk is the wiki [0,1,2] and of
 course, this list [3].  For sure the OSM-PH data has grown tremendously
 in the the past 2 years. There a number of factors that may have
 contributed to this growth.  I would like to focus the presentation on
 on 4 main points.  Perhaps you can help me develop the discussion.

 1. The osm-ph community.  Who is the community? What characterize a
 PH OSMer? How do we map?  What are the innovative ways we do to
 improve the map?  Are the data users part of this community?  Is the
 talk-ph list and discussions here a representative sample of the osm-ph
 community?

 2. How do we use the data?  Some sample of data useage we can
 illustrate.  Maybe a ph brewed mapping application? Or other ways you
 have used the data? If there are any,
 please provide a link or description and a screenshot.

 3. Issues and concerns.  Why are we growing in some areas but not
 in others?  How do you guage our relationship with other crowdsource
 mapping initiative in the country (google mapmaker, roadguide.ph,
 wikimapia)?

 4.  The future.  How do you see the state of PH data in a year or two?
 What should be done to further improve and expand data coverage?

 If you any thoughts, just send them here or as a PM. Thanks!

 [0] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines
 [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Timeline
 [2]
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Featured_images
 [3] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph

 On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Well, State of country talks are always well-received by the
  attendees. You can always talk about mapping activities in the
  Philippines. :-)
 
  And this wiki page needs some love:
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Timeline
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:31 PM, maning sambale
  emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  FYI, I got my visa application approved for the SOTM 2011 conf.  I
  will start preparing for our (possible) OSM-PH talk.  Any ideas what
  we should discuss for this year in behalf of the osm-ph community?
 
  On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:18 PM, maning sambale
  emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  FYI,
 
  The old nominees for the past SOTM scholarships are: Maning, Eugene
 and Murlwe
 
  Maning and Eugene are interested to try their luck again this time.
  Murlwe declined due to personal commitments.  If there are others
  interested to participate as an OSM-PH representative for this
  scholarship,  please tell us, as we prepare the nominations letter.
  Of course you can nominate yourself and send them directly to the
  scholarship organizers.
 
  On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
 sea...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Andre,
 
  I agree that it's a bit tight. But I asked my officemate who went to
  the US last year and he said that he had a rush US visa application
  since he has a conference to attend in connection with his MBA. He
 got
  his appointment schedule in 2 weeks and the processing took 1 week.
 
  So maybe it's possible. :-)
 
  Eugene
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner
  an...@enthropia.com wrote:
  Wow, when are they gonna decide
  does anyone already have a US visa?
  3 months to get a visa isnt the best timetable :)
 
  On 3:59 AM, maning sambale wrote:
 
  Hoping we can finally send a Filipino rep.
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Coast, Hurricanehurricane.co...@mapquest.com
  Date: Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:35 AM
  Subject: [OSM-talk] Scholarship program to State of the Map 2011
  To: t...@openstreetmap.orgt...@openstreetmap.org
 
 
  The State of the Map Committee is excited to announce a program to
  cover full travel and accommodations costs for mappers to attend
 State
  of the Map 2011 in Denver, Colorado (United States). We’re 

Re: [talk-ph] philtrack using osm maps for vehicle tracking

[George Tujan]

looks like a modified OpenGTS to me ;)

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:27 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 See here: http://www.philtrack.com/
 An intro video here: http://nfo4you.com/philtrack/intro/
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Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011

[George Tujan]

Can you stream the event via ustream?



On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:44 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Inviting everyone to a short hackday/hour on Feb 18, 2011.  This
 meetup is a technical discussion and coding on our beloved OSM-PH
 Garmin Map.  Much of the discussion will revolve around planning for
 the next phase of the OSM-PH Garmin map.
 
 If you have some coding chops, have some ideas on how to improve the
 garmin map or simply interested on how to compile your own garmin
 maps, we need you there.  Bring along your garmin device, your laptop
 and your own chips and beer.
 
 When: Feb 18, 2011. 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM
 Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC.
 
 Send me a private message to confirm.
 
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Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011

[George Tujan]

But I can't see the beer over irc hehehe.  Just update us on the list. TIA!



On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:23 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

 hehe.  I don't think my bandwidth can cope with that.  How about, (ugh!) irc?
 
 On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:20 AM, George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can you stream the event via ustream?
 
 
 
 On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:44 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Inviting everyone to a short hackday/hour on Feb 18, 2011.  This
 meetup is a technical discussion and coding on our beloved OSM-PH
 Garmin Map.  Much of the discussion will revolve around planning for
 the next phase of the OSM-PH Garmin map.
 
 If you have some coding chops, have some ideas on how to improve the
 garmin map or simply interested on how to compile your own garmin
 maps, we need you there.  Bring along your garmin device, your laptop
 and your own chips and beer.
 
 When: Feb 18, 2011. 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM
 Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC.
 
 Send me a private message to confirm.
 
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Re: [talk-ph] Automatic road tracing from satellite imagery?

[George Tujan]

now that's pretty cool!

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 2:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote:

 See this blog post:

 http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2011/02/03/automatically-detect-roads-with-bing-aerial-imagery.aspx

 And this YouTube video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR0WV2dGIRc

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Re: [talk-ph] davao meetup?

[George Tujan]

sure! I'll ask Marloue to have his students join in as well

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Davao mappers,

 I will be down south next week.  Perhaps a short
 mapping/tutorial/meetup on Saturday Jan 29 before I fly back home?

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Re: [talk-ph] davao meetup?

[George Tujan]

don't worry I'll have to ask him first otherwise its the 3 of us + beer :D

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:35 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 @jong,

 Ack! Hopefully nothing formal.

 On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:13 AM, George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com wrote:
  sure! I'll ask Marloue to have his students join in as well
 
  On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, maning sambale
  emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Davao mappers,
 
  I will be down south next week.  Perhaps a short
  mapping/tutorial/meetup on Saturday Jan 29 before I fly back home?
 
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Re: [talk-ph] Micro Mapping Party in Ortigas-Mandaluyong on May 22

[George Tujan]

data is looking really good...congrats to all!

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:30 AM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 The usual suspects and 1 newbie (murlwe not in the pictures).
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/esambale/tags/mandaortigasmappingparty/

 Just grab the pix and them in your FB account.

 The data speaks for itself:
 http://osm.org/go/4z...@eb


 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 8:02 PM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  What landuse tag for the Mental Health Complex?
  http://osm.org/go/4zhHWh4c8-
 
  Philippine Landuse Planning Cookbook for LGUs generally define large
  government complexes as:
  institutional - An urban area within a city or municipality
  principally for institutional establishments. Institutional zones can
  be subdivided in to General and Special.
 
  http://www.cookbook.hlurb.gov.ph/4-15-zoning-ordinance
 
  On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com
 wrote:
  I already made the edits for my slice (http://osm.org/go/4zhHfs7sa-)
 I'm not
  sure about the building's form on the map. Most of the POIs are there, I
  will be editing more in your area later.
 
  murlwe
  -Original Message-
 From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 5/24/2010 7:16:07 AM
 To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Micro Mapping Party in Ortigas-Mandaluyong on May
 22
 
 murlwe's tracks if anyone wants to use them.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/traces/719701
 
 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:
  Sana humabol:
 
  Slice 1:
 
 
 http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/fwhmqxzx/walking-paper-fwhmqxzx.pdf
  Slice 2:
 
 
 http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/xq6z28n4/walking-paper-xq6z28n4.pdf
  Slice 2:
 
 
 http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/5t3l6hcf/walking-paper-5t3l6hcf.pdf
  Slice 4:
 
 
 http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/sn5b35mg/walking-paper-sn5b35mg.pdf
  Slice 4:
 
 
 http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/m8ttl2d3/walking-paper-m8ttl2d3.pdf
  Slice 5:
 
 
 http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/ff7cdpq4/walking-paper-ff7cdpq4.pdf
  Slice 5:
 
 
 http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/m5czs849/walking-paper-m5czs849.pdf
  Slice 5:
 
 
 http://paperwalking-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/prints/wpsbwxnf/walking-paper-wpsbwxnf.pdf
 
  No slice 3 since it's quite blank.
 
  On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:14 AM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:02 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar
 sea...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   So final logistics needed:
  
   1. Walking Papers printout of the slices - who can volunteer to do
 this?
  I can print this, just give me the pdf links. No time to navigate
  around walkingpapers site today.
 
   2. The OSM banner - maning, is this still with you?
  Yep, I'll bring the banner including 2 extra gps (gt-31 and garmin
  etrex)
 
   3. Choice of an afternoon meet-up venue - I'm thinking of a
 coffeehouse
   with power outlets and free Wi-Fi. Either Megamall or Galleria
 since these
   malls have free Wi-Fi. I would suggest is Starbucks Megastrip
   http://www.ka-fi.com/place/starbucks__megamall_megastrip/.
 Any other
   options?
  
  
   See you all on Saturday!
  
  
   On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar
 sea...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   The link to Facebook is obviously wrong. It should be:
   http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=121402554549978
  
   If you have a Facebook account, please RSVP if you can (even a
 decline
   would be useful). :-)
  
  
   The cake slices are also set:
  
  
 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ortigas-Mandaluyong_Mapping_Party#Cake_slices
  
  
   On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar
 sea...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   Here are two pages:
  
   1. The Facebook event page (RSVP there if you have an
 account):
  
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ortigas-Mandaluyong_Mapping_Party
  
   2. The OSM Wiki announcement page (still under construction):
  
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ortigas-Mandaluyong_Mapping_Party
  
  
   On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:34 PM, ianlopez
 ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com
   wrote:
  
   I've suggested other areas that are close enough but
 not too far
   from the Ortigas area
  
   1. EDSA-Pioneer-Boni Avenue intersection:
  
 
 http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=14.57255lon=121.0472layers=0BTF
   There are new developments in the area, specifically
 in the Pioneer
   side (Robinsons Cybergate, Light Residences, Pioneer
 Woodlands)
   2. Area between Boni-Pionner intersection and Kapitolyo:
  
 
 http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=17lat=14.57297lon=121.05339layers=0BTF
   The streets are complete, but it lacks POI's,
 buildings and landuse.
  
   Maybe one of us should hand out OSM fliers to
 passers-by [if they're
   interested] (
  
 

Re: [talk-ph] Node position for towns

[George Tujan]

+1 for me as well

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1 including town (at the heart of poblacion), and also for rural barangays
 (node should be nearest the concentration of community/houses... most of the
 time near the old churches, barangay halls or very near the town/brgy plaza.


 On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:50 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 +1 for me

 On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all.
 
  I have partially brought this subject up with Maning some time ago and
 would
  just like bring it up again on the forum ...
 
  I propose to make it standard to position town nodes as near as possible
 to
  the municipal hall of the towns.  This makes for better and easier
  navigation when using the osmphil_garmin GPS map that Maning compiles.
 Most
  town nodes are still located at the geographical center of the
 boundaries of
  the town.  If the node is moved near to the municipal hall (which is
 usually
  along the main road of the town), a traveller can see better what town
 is
  next down the road when he/she navigates with a GPS.
 
  cheers
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Re: [talk-ph] [Fwd: RapidFTR project (for UNICEF). Please join us!]

[George Tujan]

Maybe they should just integrate with Ushahidi?

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. 
r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote:

  Crossposting this to:
 Philippine Ruby Users Group (http://groups.google.com/group/ruby-phil)
 Openstreetmap Philippines (
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines)

 This just came into my inbox from my local London Google OSJam mailing
 list. Although I don't expect anyone to be able to get to the meeting in
 Holborn (part of central London), I think there may be some on both lists
 that may be interested in participating in this software, particularly as
 disasters where this software can help are known to occur in the
 Philippines, it's written in Ruby on Rails and mapping integration is likely
 to be useful to implement.
 I'll try to join them on Saturday, if I can manage to shift around other
 arrangements.

 Hope this is of interest!

 Ronny.


  Original Message   Subject: [open-source-jam] Open source
 code jam this Sat 27th, Holborn, London: RapidFTR project (for UNICEF).
 Please join us!  Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:30:04 -0700 (PDT)  From: Tom
 tom.el...@gmail.com tom.el...@gmail.com  Reply-To:
 london-open-source-...@googlegroups.com  To: London Open Source Jam
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 tel...@thoughtworks.com

 Hi all.  Apologies for posting at such short notice, but hopefully
 this will be of interest to some of you.  We're hosting a code jam at
 the Thoughtworks office in Holborn this Saturday to work on the open
 source RapidFTR project (http://www.rapidftr.com).

 RapidFTR was an idea coined by post-grad students at New York
 University, which some of us at Thoughtworks have been helping them to
 implement.  It's a great idea that can make a massive difference to
 the Family Tracing and Reunification work that aid organisations do in
 humanitarian disaster areas.  i.e. reuniting lost children with their
 families.  (See the RapidFTR website for details.)  UNICEF are already
 very interested in it, and would like to be able to deploy it as soon
 as possible.  (The first areas they will deploy it to would probably
 be Haiti, and IDP camps in Uganda and Sudan.)

 We're having the code jam to see if we can get enough done so that it
 can start being used in the field.  There's also lots more we would
 like to add after the initial deployment if people are are keen to
 work help out beyond this Saturday.  There are many different areas
 that people can help with:

 RESTful API and Ruby on Rails backend, and a web admin interface;
 Search functionality (CouchDB);
 Blackberry phone client (specifically requested by UNICEF since that's
 what their aid workers have);
 Android phone client (so RapidFTR can be used by more NGOs);
 Any other form of RapidFTR client that people are interested in
 building.

 For more information about the project please visit: http://www.rapidftr.com/

 Event details:

 Saturday March 27, 2010  from 10:00am - 4:00pm (or as long as people
 can stay)
 ThoughtWorks UK Office
 Berkshire House, 168-173 High Holborn
 London, United Kingdom, England WC1V 7AA

 If you think you might want to get involved, please just ping me a
 mail: tel...@thoughtworks.com so we can make sure we have plenty of
 food and drink for everyone.  :-)  If there's a particular functional
 area you'd like to work on, let me know that to.

 Thanks!

 Tom

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Re: [talk-ph] Ready for the OSM-PH Marikina Mapping Party

[George Tujan]

Goodluck you guys and make sure to have fun!

don't forget to post pictures...or maybe setup a posterous site for it

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:06 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 We're all set for the mapping party tomorrow:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Mapping_Party/Marikina

 At least 13 people confirmed.  We have 5 gps units available for loan
 and loads of walking-papers to scribble on. :)  Ed will lead the data
 collection for good eats, theme parks, museums, heritage places,
 historical places, trade hubs, and specialty crafts.

 Two companies (a GIS IT, and a GPS tracking and monitoring service)
 are interested in seeing us in action (how we collect and use the
 data).  For people interested in developing services out of OSM data,
 this is a great opportunity for you to discuss  with these companies.

 NAVCO (a local Garmin distributor) will provide a 30% discount for
 their Nuvi units, exclusive to mappers who will attend the event.

 After the data editing session in the afternoon, there will be an
 informal socials.  No agenda, just an extra time to share more mapping
 stories.

 There will be several simultaneous kwentuhan.  Of course,  everyone
 can participate:
 1. Finalization of the OSM-PH local chapter
 2. Eugene will teach me how to use Merkaartor :)
 3. I will teach Rally some techniques on compiling the OSM-PH Garmin Map

 All for now.  See you in Marikina.

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Re: [talk-ph] Wayne Dell Manuel wins $50K for the Philippines in Google's Map Maker Competition

[George Tujan]

great news indeed. congrats!

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 9:33 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Great to hear a Filipino won the competition.

 On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Some nice news from our competition :-)
 
  Our global mapping competition ran December 15, 2009 to January 31,
 2010.
  The competition winner is Wayne Dell Manuel of the Philippines. The
 $50,000
  grand prize donation to UNICEF goes to projects in the Philippines.
 
  Links:
  http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/mapmaker/competitions/
 
 http://groups.google.com/group/google-mapmaker/browse_thread/thread/9ad3c38fb606bdda/ffe60b033189bfcd?hide_quotes=nopli=1
 
  In addition to getting $50K for UNICEF projects in the Philippines, Wayne
  also gets an all-expenses-paid trip to the first Google Map Maker/Modeler
  conference in Zurich, Switzerland this March.
 
 
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Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: Planning ahead of disasters with GIS

[George Tujan]

Incredible! it just might be a ploy to justify more government spendings :)

I guess its up to us to really inform the government that OSM can really
help. Bigay na lang natin sa mga biktima ang cost savings :)

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:09 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Pucha!  I almost fell-off my chair!

 With each map sheet costing P500,000, creating a GIS base map will
 cost P6.5 billion.

 I know data creation is expensive, but is it really that much (500K
 per mapsheet)?

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 Date: Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:31 PM
 Subject: Planning ahead of disasters with GIS
 To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com


 Sagutin natin na may available ng mga opensource tools for this and
 what we need are more support from the government to complete base
 maps ng phil. Much cheaper din kung open source gagamitin.


 http://technology.inquirer.net/infotech/infotech/view/20091012-229676/Planning-ahead-of-disasters-with-GIS

 What you think?

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Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

[George Tujan]

@maning: the venue can also be the sponsor para isa na lang, and if you can
have media converage mas ok :)


On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 When we have a date and place, is it OK if I try sending some sponsor
 request to people?
 What specific things do we need for the mapping party (food, fuel, venue)?


 On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  so I think it's time we
  do another one and I suggest that this time we do it in Metro Manila to
 get
  more participants. (And try to better the event management skills of
 the
  Davao pips when they did their Davao Mapping Party. ;-)
  Some things that worked for Davao:
  1. Enough time and announcement before the event.
  2. A separate tutorial session on how to map, before the event.
  3. Sponsors, banners, etc.
 
 
  While Metro Manila is covered by Yahoo! imagery, there are plenty of
 places
  where a virgin GPS survey is possible. Here are some places I can
 think
  of:
 
  1. Ortigas Home Depot and Metro Walk. The Yahoo! imagery here is
 outdated so
  this is a good spot to survey. The problem is that this spot is too
 small.
  But we could fill in the time with presentations if we were to target
  newbies.
 
  2. McKinley Hills in Taguig (near Bonifacio Global City). Yahoo!
 imagery is
  outdated too. Same concerns as above.
 
  3. Mandaluyong around Shaw Blvd. This area is covered by clouds in
 Yahoo! so
  GPS surveying is definitely needed.
 
  4. Combine all of the above as separate slices if the number of
 participants
  is high.
 
  Any other suggestions?
 
 
  Eugene / seav
 
 
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Re: [talk-ph] unsolicited map advert

[George Tujan]

Kaya pala familiar, this guy  is the same one that added a lot of ads in
google maps and google earth

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:47 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 found him:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jundomingo07/edits

 On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM, maning
 sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  and more
  tourism:jun domingo   www.adomingobrokerage.page.tl2
  tourism:jun domingo  www.adomingobrokerage.page.tl1
  tourism:jun domingo 09228829926  www.adomingobrokerage.page.tl1
  tourism:jun domingo www.adomingobrokerage.page.tl2
 
  On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:32 PM, maning
  sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  found this while compiling node stats.
 
  amenity:1 hectare commercial prop. for sale jun domingo  09228829926
1
  amenity:1.1 ha. commercial property for sale 09228829926
  www.adomingobrokerage.page.tl1
  amenity:2 storey building 213m2 for sale1
  amenity:2 storey building LA 210m2 for sale 092288299261
  amenity:684m2 commercial lot for sale 092288299261
 
  Can somebody text him? :)
 
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Re: [talk-ph] Palawan getting better

[George Tujan]

nice one jeff!, I really hope to visit puerto princesa again :D

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:36 AM, maning
sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice work jeff!

 http://osm.org/go/4nF853b
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Re: [talk-ph] some osm-ph stats (20090729)

[George Tujan]

September 12, 2009...its Marloue's turn to talk about OSM :)
sige we'll need updated data talaga. TIA!

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:32 AM, maning
sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 no prob.  I can give updates if you need it.

 Kelan ba magkakaroon ng IdeaCamp Manila?

 On 8/7/09, George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the stats maning. If its ok with you, we'd like to use it
 for the next ideacampdavao presentation

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:06 AM, maning
 sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Sharing some OSM-PH stats (as of 20090729).

 Number rows: 3355279
 Total Ways: 77531
 Total Nodes: 809186
 Total Relations: 218
 Number of Contributors: 252

 TOP NODES
 -
 maning                             212061
 MichaelCollinson                   115526
 ph_import                          101419
 ianlopez1115                        75317
 murlwe                              47715
 seav                                43220
 hellodeck                           37900
 ed_waypointsdotph                   37206
 axk                                 19791
 remzamora                           18064
 Plutocrat                           16539
 Rally                                9685
 ivansanchez                          5713
 RoadMaps                             5210
 ingguana                             3732
 neilnacario                          3724
 denz                                 3444
 Totor                                2981
 Eiddup                               2829
 rainerr                              2756
 sorabsuperstar                       2723
 phtraveler                           2593
 tools4fools                          2515
 Susannen                             2376
 ginolot                              2015
 kulweng                              1988
 tobiassteffes                        1866
 Hsing                                1825
 Andre68                              1400
 myMapGil                             1362

 TOP WAYS

 
 maning                              20478
 ph_import                           15924
 ianlopez1115                         9730
 seav                                 7423
 murlwe                               5541
 hellodeck                            3285
 remzamora                            2875
 Rally                                1780
 Plutocrat                            1021
 ed_waypointsdotph                     947
 ingguana                              798
 neilnacario                           772
 RoadMaps                              662
 AlanM                                 441
 denz                                  420
 axk                                   378
 Totor                                 267
 sorabsuperstar                        267
 MichaelCollinson                      243
 Eiddup                                241
 Rcadayona                             234
 Andre68                               207
 smackcode                             190
 myMapGil                              184
 ferdie                                178
 kulweng                               150
 Hsing                                 147
 ragingmon                             141
 phtraveler                            122
 Wtmitchell                            122

 TOP RELATIONS

 -
 ianlopez1115                          128
 seav                                   49
 maning                                 23
 ph_import                               8
 murlwe                                  3
 bruntij                                 1
 Floating_iron                           1
 dmgroom                                 1
 PA94                                    1
 apotski                                 1
 axk                                     1
 Andre68                                 1


 highway length sums (metres):
 primary           12452889m
 residential       10392211m
 secondary          4640978m
 road               3579534m
 tertiary           2800464m
 unclassified       2314400m
 trunk              1945433m
 service             697133m
 track               597994m
 motorway            575177m
 footway             175930m
 path                157708m
 motorway_link        65112m
 trunk_link           41099m
 cycleway             27059m
 primary_link         25900m
 construction         14349m
 pedestrian           13677m
 steps                 2807m
 secondary_link        2169m
 raceway               1542m
 minor                 1022m
 living_street          771m
 Alley                  101m
 This is a driveway         61m
 This is not a road         35m
 TOTAL             40525567m


 Some observations:
 1. Only 20% to reach 1 million nodes, not a big number compared to
 Germany, but 1 million is still a big number. :)
 2. 252 contributors. I am also seeing new contributors adding little
 detail here and there and then stop contributing.  This is nice. In
 Metro Manila, the roads

Re: [talk-ph] some osm-ph stats (20090729)

[George Tujan]

Hehehe i didn't get your post, ideacamp manila pala hehehe may isang
group that wants to take it there but I'm not sure if matuloy, but in
any case ideacamp itself is just an idea you can actually make one
there and the guys here would definitely love and support it

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:46 AM, George Tujangtu...@gmail.com wrote:
 September 12, 2009...its Marloue's turn to talk about OSM :)
 sige we'll need updated data talaga. TIA!

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:32 AM, maning
 sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 no prob.  I can give updates if you need it.

 Kelan ba magkakaroon ng IdeaCamp Manila?

 On 8/7/09, George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the stats maning. If its ok with you, we'd like to use it
 for the next ideacampdavao presentation

 On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:06 AM, maning
 sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Sharing some OSM-PH stats (as of 20090729).

 Number rows: 3355279
 Total Ways: 77531
 Total Nodes: 809186
 Total Relations: 218
 Number of Contributors: 252

 TOP NODES
 -
 maning                             212061
 MichaelCollinson                   115526
 ph_import                          101419
 ianlopez1115                        75317
 murlwe                              47715
 seav                                43220
 hellodeck                           37900
 ed_waypointsdotph                   37206
 axk                                 19791
 remzamora                           18064
 Plutocrat                           16539
 Rally                                9685
 ivansanchez                          5713
 RoadMaps                             5210
 ingguana                             3732
 neilnacario                          3724
 denz                                 3444
 Totor                                2981
 Eiddup                               2829
 rainerr                              2756
 sorabsuperstar                       2723
 phtraveler                           2593
 tools4fools                          2515
 Susannen                             2376
 ginolot                              2015
 kulweng                              1988
 tobiassteffes                        1866
 Hsing                                1825
 Andre68                              1400
 myMapGil                             1362

 TOP WAYS

 
 maning                              20478
 ph_import                           15924
 ianlopez1115                         9730
 seav                                 7423
 murlwe                               5541
 hellodeck                            3285
 remzamora                            2875
 Rally                                1780
 Plutocrat                            1021
 ed_waypointsdotph                     947
 ingguana                              798
 neilnacario                           772
 RoadMaps                              662
 AlanM                                 441
 denz                                  420
 axk                                   378
 Totor                                 267
 sorabsuperstar                        267
 MichaelCollinson                      243
 Eiddup                                241
 Rcadayona                             234
 Andre68                               207
 smackcode                             190
 myMapGil                              184
 ferdie                                178
 kulweng                               150
 Hsing                                 147
 ragingmon                             141
 phtraveler                            122
 Wtmitchell                            122

 TOP RELATIONS

 -
 ianlopez1115                          128
 seav                                   49
 maning                                 23
 ph_import                               8
 murlwe                                  3
 bruntij                                 1
 Floating_iron                           1
 dmgroom                                 1
 PA94                                    1
 apotski                                 1
 axk                                     1
 Andre68                                 1


 highway length sums (metres):
 primary           12452889m
 residential       10392211m
 secondary          4640978m
 road               3579534m
 tertiary           2800464m
 unclassified       2314400m
 trunk              1945433m
 service             697133m
 track               597994m
 motorway            575177m
 footway             175930m
 path                157708m
 motorway_link        65112m
 trunk_link           41099m
 cycleway             27059m
 primary_link         25900m
 construction         14349m
 pedestrian           13677m
 steps                 2807m
 secondary_link        2169m
 raceway               1542m
 minor                 1022m
 living_street          771m
 Alley                  101m
 This is a driveway         61m
 This is not a road         35m
 TOTAL

Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global

[George Tujan]

well like all things OSM...use where it applies :)

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:52 PM, maning
sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Especially ferry routes.  At least in garmin, you need to connect a
 road to the ferry route to be able to use the device for inter-island
 navigation.  I don't think this is truly correct.  If there is really
 no road between the pier and the pier parking, why should we link
 them?

 Just a thought.

 I agree with Eugene, keepright is not yet optimized for an archipelago
 like ours.  But given more feedback, it will get better.

 On 7/21/09, George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com wrote:
 @marloue: we'll just have to recheck the roads, maning is probably
 right we might have missed something out.

 On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:36 PM, maning
 sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 The plane route shoud connect to a road, that's how I understand it.
 Same with ferry routes

 On 7/21/09, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote:
 Ohh, but I added a flight route from Davao to Manila. Check the data,
 its there but I don't know why it did not appear. So, Technically Davao
 is connected to Manila by plane. I will try to add ferry route to
 Manila. Its a very long route.


 murlwe

 -Original Message-
From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com]
Sent: 7/21/2009 12:10:35 PM
To: totor_...@yahoo.com
Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global

Hi guys,

I asked the tool's maintainer how the floating island error is
 determined.
Here's his answer:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-July/038800.html

I've reprinted it here below for convenience:


The motto of this check is you can go everywhere from everywhere.

There is a set of starting points (highways in the center of big cities
 that are
well connected to many other streets) I picked randomly. The check
 finds ways
that are connected to these ways and thus finds a (bigger) set of ways.
 This
procedure is repeated until no more ways are found. Any way that was
 not found
is a floating island.

There are 30 starting points all over the world, one of them in Manila.

Please note that the check will follow any highway and ferries are
 included, so
it _should_ find islands as long as there's a ferry connected to a
 highway on
the island.

So it seems that everything not connected to the main streets of Metro
 Manila is
considered as a floating island. Mindoro is covered since there is a
 ferry
route from Batangas to Puerto Galera. I think if we can at least sketch
 out the
Ro-Ro routes, we can cover most of the major island. I will also
 suggest adding
Cebu and Davao cities as seeds to minimize problems.

However, this will not cover all the islands (there are about 2,000
 inhabited
islands out of 7,100+ and not all of them have regular ferry routes
 [like
Batanes (?) which is served by flights]) so this means that we cannot
 rely on
keep right to point out all floating island errors. I think a
 customized QA tool
for the Philippines would be needed.

I hope this helps! In the meantime, just uncheck this error and ignore
 it until
we can have a backbone connection for the Philippines and more seeds.


Eugene / seav




On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com
 wrote:


I saw some blue arrows indicating 2 roads are close, but not
 conneected. In Cebu
this is the case near Car-Car in the south, and also in the north of
 Cebu
Island. Maybe this could be the reason for the island warning on
 other
intersections (Not connected to the world, because of these gaps)?

I'll try to connect them tomorrow.


--- On Mon, 7/20/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com

 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
 To: Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Openstreetmap.ph.mailing.list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 2:53 PM

 Ack!

 I've done a quick look around and it seems that the
 general Luzon road network is the only one not riddled with
 these errors!


 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:51 PM,
 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Totor,

 George also replied asking what these floating island
 errors mean.

 As far as I understand it, it means that there is a small
 network of navigable ways that is not connected to the rest
 of the network. It does detect islands in Metro
 Manila but I'm quite surprised to find that it seems to
 think that the Cebu road network is one big error! Maybe a
 few ferry routes would fix it?



 I'll ask the creator of keep right. I don't think
 he anticipated archipelagos. Hehehe.

 Eugene / seav


 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:43 PM,
 Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com
 wrote:






 Great,



 but,ehr, could it be that Cebu is just one big floating
 island ???




http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=14lat=10.35578;
 lon=123.92528layers=B0Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100
 =1ch110=1ch120=1ch130=1ch150=1ch160

Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global

[George Tujan]

@marloue: we'll just have to recheck the roads, maning is probably
right we might have missed something out.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:36 PM, maning
sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 The plane route shoud connect to a road, that's how I understand it.
 Same with ferry routes

 On 7/21/09, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote:
 Ohh, but I added a flight route from Davao to Manila. Check the data,
 its there but I don't know why it did not appear. So, Technically Davao
 is connected to Manila by plane. I will try to add ferry route to
 Manila. Its a very long route.


 murlwe

 -Original Message-
From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com]
Sent: 7/21/2009 12:10:35 PM
To: totor_...@yahoo.com
Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global

Hi guys,

I asked the tool's maintainer how the floating island error is
 determined.
Here's his answer:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-July/038800.html

I've reprinted it here below for convenience:


The motto of this check is you can go everywhere from everywhere.

There is a set of starting points (highways in the center of big cities
 that are
well connected to many other streets) I picked randomly. The check
 finds ways
that are connected to these ways and thus finds a (bigger) set of ways.
 This
procedure is repeated until no more ways are found. Any way that was
 not found
is a floating island.

There are 30 starting points all over the world, one of them in Manila.

Please note that the check will follow any highway and ferries are
 included, so
it _should_ find islands as long as there's a ferry connected to a
 highway on
the island.

So it seems that everything not connected to the main streets of Metro
 Manila is
considered as a floating island. Mindoro is covered since there is a
 ferry
route from Batangas to Puerto Galera. I think if we can at least sketch
 out the
Ro-Ro routes, we can cover most of the major island. I will also
 suggest adding
Cebu and Davao cities as seeds to minimize problems.

However, this will not cover all the islands (there are about 2,000
 inhabited
islands out of 7,100+ and not all of them have regular ferry routes
 [like
Batanes (?) which is served by flights]) so this means that we cannot
 rely on
keep right to point out all floating island errors. I think a
 customized QA tool
for the Philippines would be needed.

I hope this helps! In the meantime, just uncheck this error and ignore
 it until
we can have a backbone connection for the Philippines and more seeds.


Eugene / seav




On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com
 wrote:


I saw some blue arrows indicating 2 roads are close, but not
 conneected. In Cebu
this is the case near Car-Car in the south, and also in the north of
 Cebu
Island. Maybe this could be the reason for the island warning on
 other
intersections (Not connected to the world, because of these gaps)?

I'll try to connect them tomorrow.


--- On Mon, 7/20/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com

 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
 To: Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com
 Cc: Openstreetmap.ph.mailing.list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 2:53 PM

 Ack!

 I've done a quick look around and it seems that the
 general Luzon road network is the only one not riddled with
 these errors!


 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:51 PM,
 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Totor,

 George also replied asking what these floating island
 errors mean.

 As far as I understand it, it means that there is a small
 network of navigable ways that is not connected to the rest
 of the network. It does detect islands in Metro
 Manila but I'm quite surprised to find that it seems to
 think that the Cebu road network is one big error! Maybe a
 few ferry routes would fix it?



 I'll ask the creator of keep right. I don't think
 he anticipated archipelagos. Hehehe.

 Eugene / seav


 On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:43 PM,
 Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com
 wrote:






 Great,



 but,ehr, could it be that Cebu is just one big floating
 island ???




http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=14lat=10.35578;
 lon=123.92528layers=B0Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100
 =1ch110=1ch120=1ch130=1ch150=1ch160=1ch170=1ch180=1ch191=1ch192
 =1ch193=1ch194=1ch201=1ch202=1ch203=1ch204=1ch210=1ch220=1show_
 ign=1show_tmpign=1





 Whats wrong with the orange arrows? The nodes of the
 intersections look ok to me...







 --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:



  From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com

  Subject: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes
 global

  To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org

  Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 4:21 PM

  Hi guys,

 

  The keepright! QA tool for OSM just went almost
 global.

  Previously this tool was only enabled for Europe. This
 tool

  highlights 

Re: [talk-ph] RFC: importing Palawan roads

[George Tujan]

Hi Jeff,
Nice to know you enjoyed it, give it a few days and you'll be addicted
heheheh. Don't forget to tag your gpx traces with philippines and
maybe add a palawan tag as well

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:16 AM, jeff fermojefffe...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi, Im the guy sir george tujan was talking about (rider for Palawan), I can 
 verify a subset of that map and compare it with actual gps tracks. by the way 
 I just started my actual GPS tracking last sunday and i really enjoyed it. 
 this is how I did my actual ride.
 tracking method/interval: time/1sec
 lock on road: off
 speed: 20-40Km/h straight road, 15-20Km/h curved road
 open for suggestion on how I should do my gps tracking

 Regards,
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Re: [talk-ph] Philippines PGS coastline import

[George Tujan]

-Xms switch specifies the initial size, in bytes, of the memory allocation pool

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:55 PM, maning
sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've got 2Gb of memory in my laptop, so I can use this:
  java -jar -Xms500m -Xmx500m josm-tested.jar
 which gives me 500Mb of memory available to the application. In this case it 
 loads pretty fast, and has no trouble with a 58Mb file.

  I use this one:
  java -Xmx512m -jar josm-latest.jar

 And increase it to 1GB depending on the need.

 what's the  -Xms500m for?


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Re: [talk-ph] tag for vulcanizing shops

[George Tujan]

and in our dialect we even call it bolkit! hehehe but seriously how do
we settle this?
do we go with shop=vulcanizing? which btw, is ok here but definitely
not applicable elsewhere (as Eugene pointed out)
or maybe another suggestion? shop=tire_repair perhaps?


On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Eugene Alvin Villarsea...@gmail.com wrote:
 (Bit off-topic)

 I got curious about this and did some reading. Apparently in other
 countries, what we call vulcanizing is simply patching tires.
 Vulcanization is actually the process of making raw rubber (you know, the
 sap from rubber trees) an elastic solid by having it bind with other
 chemicals, usually sulfur. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulcanization



 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote:

 At 08:46 AM 17/06/2009, maning sambale wrote:
 Just curious is this just a pinoy thing (vulcanizing)? Or we havesimilar
  shops like this in other countries.

 A Pinoy thing!  ... I must admit when I first came to the Philippines I
 had to ask what it meant though I now understand it is the proper technical
 term. It is a fantastic name, I somehow expect to meet the god Vulcan every
 time I pass one.

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Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs

[George Tujan]

can we setup a generic tag for POIs? so that when a contributor has
doubt on what tags to use they can just use the generic tag then
either update it or let others update it later

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo
Ltd.r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote:
 Very interesting conversation!
 I often wonder which tag to put on certain POIs and sometimes resort to
 guessing, which of course is not good. What if we use this discussion as a
 basis for a wiki page for Pinoy POIs, sort of like a dictionary of
 amenities, like:
 MMDA urinals - see toilets
 Toilets - amenity=toilets; fee=yes/no
 Newspaper stand - shop=newsagent
 Cockfighting arena - sport=cockfighting
 Multipurpose hall - building=yes; amenity=public_building
 etc.
 I would include the generic world wide ones as well, so we can use this as a
 guideline for how to tag stuff when in doubt.

 Or is there already such a page?
 Ronny.

 ian lopez wrote:

 For pay toilets, amenity=toilets; fee=yes, while shop=newsagent is for
 newspaper stands (I think). for DVD shops, I think that there is no tag for
 it. The big G has Quiapo DVD (somewhat prominent when you look at it), but
 I think that we can't tag it since it is somewhat illegal. Basketball courts
 are easy, use sport=basketball. AFAIK, multipurpose buildings should be
 building=yes, amenity=public_building. In some places, I tag cockfighting
 arenas as sport=cockfighting, though a good number of people outside the
 Philippines do not consider sabong as a sport (and illegal in some places).
 Yellow Cab is a pizza place, most likely to be tagged as
 amenity=restaurant.

 Regarding MMDA's urinals, it should be amenity=toilets, fee=no (from what I
 know, most, if not all of its urinals are used for free),
 operator=Metropolitan Manila Development Authority

 --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs
 To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 5:08 PM

 (not all are distinctly ph poi's, but for the sake of discussion, here
 are some POI examples i know or don't know):

 -Ukay-ukay / Wagwagan
 -Hilot (manghihilot / mangtatawas)
 -Daycare - is this classified as a school?
 -Multipurpose Hall / Barangay Covered Courts - that cannot be plainly
 classified as basketball court.
 -Store that only sells LPG tank (gasul)
 -Junkshop (buy and sells scrap)
 -Store that primarily sells reconditioned and surplus equipments (eg. HMR)
 -Barangay Outpost or Police Outpost (small booth only, not barangay
 hall or police station)
 -FX Terminal (including a tag for their route destination, eg.
 crossing, ayala, megamall)
 -Newspaper stand (Tabloid / Broadsheet) - some sari-sari store sell
 newspaper, bulgar, taliba, most don't.
 -Pay Restrooms (distinction between free/public and pay restroom)
 -Auction houses/yard like the ones in subic (or are these just
 considered buildings?)
 -DIY shop that is specialized in electronic/speaker/radio parts, not a
 typical hardware (Raon-type of store, more like a radioshack
 equivalent, or Kuryente) - or just generalize this as hardware shop?
 -free-standing betting stations/ pagcor / lotto outlets and alikes
 -DVD DVD (or is this supposed to be secret) ;-)

 -clear and easy guideline which are considered fastfood and
 restaurant. as we don't want too many POI icons on the map.
 Eg. If you pay first (at the counter before you eat), then it's
 FASTFOOD (eg. mcdo, jollibee, greenwich, and those at regular food
 courts, including burger machine and good burger).
 If you eat-first-then-pay-the-bill, then we generally put it under
 RESTAURANT (especially if there's a waiter).

 except for the free-standing semi-permanent fishball/isaw/shawarma
 stand/kiosk (and alikes) where you eat first, then pay all the
 fishballs you've eaten. Is this classified as fastfood or simply
 snack stand?

 So is yellow cab or goldilocks a restaurant or a fastfood?

 i believe goldilocks and redribbon falls under bakeshop? so
 therefore, as long as they sell cake, even if they sell fastfood, the
 priority tag must be bakeshop. is this ok? that way, we use lesser and
 easier to identify POI icons (for use on mobile devices)


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Re: [talk-ph] tag for vulcanizing shops

[George Tujan]

why not just use
amenity=vulcanizing?

btw, what should be the attributes/tag for government offices?
can we just set a generic tag (that will show up on the map) for POIs
marked that will be updated/identified later?

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sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 amenity=tire?

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Re: [talk-ph] really cool osm activities in mindanao

[George Tujan]

@maning: we hope to attract more volunteers for osm :) and next time
you guys can visit us as well

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:29 PM, maning
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 http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/

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Re: [talk-ph] smackcode and osm on ideacamp-davao

[George Tujan]

@maning: Thanks, kulang sa oras but I'm pretty sure it got them interested

@seav: same here if we could do something like that especially since
we now that a mapping party has been done (and more coming) that would
be really cool :)

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Eugene Alvin Villarsea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Galing!

 I've seen a few OSM-themed presentations lately and the ITO OSM 2008 video
 never fails to make an appearance. Hehehe. And looking at that animation
 never gets old.

 I hope we can make an equally beautiful animation for the Philippines. :-)


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 Nice!
 http://vimeo.com/5036675

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Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: RFC: importing Palawan roads

[George Tujan]

@maning: i've contacted a former officemate who lives in palawan and
is every interested in joining and contributing at least may palawan
mapper na tayo. :). His name is Jefferson Fermo and he was very
excited when he saw the current state of OSM in the Philippines :)


On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:13 PM, maning
sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 With more eyeballs all bugs are seen (Linus Torvalds)

 Doing a quick check on proportions and shapes of different tracks from 
 different portion of
 the map, I think the data supplied is trash. :-(

 As per Rally's assessment, I am holding-off to importing this data.
 Unless, others can make sense of how we can use this for OSM.  I can
 provide a download link to anyone who wants to play around with it.
 If you think it's useable for OSM, we can discuss this here.

 Personally, nanghinayang lang ako, if this is good data (or at least
 useful) a good chunk of roads will be added to OSM.  But as Rally
 said,
 So, we'll surely get in trouble or lose good reputation for uploading bad 
 data, hehe

 I'd rather accept someone saying we have wrong data because of an
 honest newbie experimenting around than importing data we know having
 big problems.

 Thanks Rally for doing the assessment.  Any other comments?


 On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Eugene Alvin Villarsea...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was about to ask you to ask them how they compiled their data. It
 obviously wasn't traced over Google Earth nor taken using GPS tracks. I
 think Rally might have guessed their method correctly.


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 wrote:

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 From: Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: importing Palawan roads
 To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com


 Doing a quick check on proportions and shapes of different tracks from
 different portion of the map, I think the data supplied is trash. :-(

 I've seen shape files very much like this (like the one I obtained
 from Taytay Assessor) that was just traced over TAX MAPPING paper
 sheets (purely based on shape guestimation and visual
 ratio-and-proportion) then converted then to autocad drawings. I've
 seen them how they draw the lot shapes on paper (during the time
 nagtatambay ako sa assessor). It's doable if you know where to chop
 the areas (eg. per subdivision or per purok), then convert it back to
 raster image, then georectify that image (for every area) which will
 need actual gps waypoints, then trace your vector lines over the
 raster layer. But what's the point? we are talking of the whole
 palawan.The purpose of this data is just for assessment and for
 assigning PIN codes on the tax declaration, not for navigation nor for
 making proportionally correct paper map.

 I highly doubt that the data came from actual field survey. Because
 I've traced Namria topo maps before (in Luzon datum), and they were
 proportionally correct when I translated them to WGS84. My old
 personal garmin maps were made this way with fairly high degree in
 accuracy. But in this case, the shp file have wrong proportions,
 different shapes, different angles, a lot of extraneous lines and
 streets (that doesn't make sense), really bad. I tried Luzon-Mean,
 Luzon-Philippines, Luzon-Mindanao (all failed), so I tried to cheat by
 just dragging them over google satellite image, still failed, won't
 fit. No wonder you can't make it fit using all available datum, hehe.
 nadaya yata tayo dun. If we are lucky enough to have one subdivision
 fit the roads of a satellite image (yahoo or google), the adjacent
 subdivision won't (as i've tried it since this was really easy to do
 in trackmaker pro). In my experience, even those subdivisions as far
 as 500meters from your reference tracklog should still fit the
 satellite image with your extended vector traces; in this case, even
 the neighboring streets a few blocks away doesn't.

 So, we'll surely get in trouble or lose good reputation for uploading
 bad data, hehe. I suggest we just recruit gps-tracker volunteers in
 any of the streets in palawan (where there are good hi-res satellite
 images), and lets do it the old fashion way.

 Call back the source of this data and ask him to confess (if they
 really made that survey). kung ayaw umamin, i-torture natin ;-D


 On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:17 PM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I tried every projection parameters I can think of pero may shift pa
  rin, anyway the shift is systematic so moving the whole data to fit
  existing OSM roads, should be straightforward.
 
  Here's the data, around 7 MB:
  http://esambale.wikispaces.com/file/view/palawan_roads.zip
 
  Tirahin mo sya!
 
  On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Rally de Leonrall...@gmail.com wrote:
   can you send me a copy of this palawan tracks? how big? i'm sure you
   already
   have your methods of converting to wgs84.
  
   but let me see 

[talk-ph] OSM at ideacampdavao

[George Tujan]

hello everyone, we've had a fruitful ideacampdavao
(www.ideacampdavao.com) session last Saturday and although I only got
about 20-25 minute spot to promote mapping technologies (more
specifically OSM) it was definitely worth it.  I focused mainly on the
potential uses of OSM and how we can use it for other things other
than whats obvious.
We hope to spark the interest of the Davaoenos to contribute to OSM,
we'll be cooking up our own mapping party in a few weeks :) thanks
guys and more power to OSM phils

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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 10, Issue 14

[George Tujan]

how many would they need? I'd definitely nominate you (Emmanuel
Sambale) and Marloue Pidor
Both have done tremendous work in promoting OSM advocacy

--george(smackcode)

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 We are mentioned here:
 * Southeast Asia: Phillipines, Vietnam, Thailand.
 Anybody willing to represent OSM-PH?  I guess it's worth trying to
 nominate one from the group.

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 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
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 The OpenStreetMap Foundation is excited to announce a program to cover
 full travel and accomodations costs for 15 mappers to attend State of
 the Map. We're seeking nominations from the community for potential
 mappers.

 Generally, we are seeking people from places where costs would
 prohibit attendance, developing countries, and places that are
 interesting geopolitically. The ideal candidates for funding are
 from countries with a small OSM community, perhaps just a few mappers
 in total. They have made a significant start at mapping their city,
 either through Yahoo imagery or with their own GPS, and are directly
 familiar with the process of OSM. They may have started communicating
 among themselves, and made plans and scoped out the process for their
 local district. But, the community is nowhere near critical mass, and
 they need the inspiration and support to take OSM to the next level.

 We need to act fast. State of the Map is just over two months away,
 tickets and visas need to be arranged. In order to allow enough time
 for all the arrangements, the nomination period will be short, one
 week only, ending next Wednesday, May 13. From the nominations
 received, we'll review the list and choose 15 mappers to approach with
 the offer. Depending on their availability to attend, we'll work our
 way through the list. We only recently secured funding for this
 program, so the process has to be quick.

 Please send your nominations to sotm.scholars...@gmail.com. For each
 nomination, include the mappers name, OSM user name, email address,
 location, and a paragraph or two on why they'd be great to have at
 SOTM.

 And also, please forward this message to other relevant local OSM lists.

 As for regions, here are a few regions that seem to fit the bill, but
 nominations are not limited to these places at all.

 * Eastern Europe: the Caucasus, Russia, Bulgaria, Romania.
 * Arab States: Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt. Egypt is particularly
 interesting, as the ban on GPS units there was recently lifted.
 * South Asia: India, Pakistan. While both countries have seen
 significant activities, relative to size and population they are in
 the very early stages.
 * Southeast Asia: Phillipines, Vietnam, Thailand.
 * South America: Colombia, Bolivia, Peru. Promising leads in
 government for the release of data for use in OSM.
 * East Africa: Kenya is a hotspot for mapping right now (Ushahidi,
 AgCommons, MapMaker..)

 Many thanks to the Open Society Institute for helping make this happen.

 -Mikel

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