Re: [Talk-se] Hydda Full
*Thank you very much for the response! * I'm not sure how long "the next few days" will be, and since our scorecard release is Saturday, I still seek a backup option that has many of the same attributes as Hydda Full. - Blue ocean - Not displaying big roads when zoomed out - Roads are dark enough to be seen under a partially transparent layer when zoomed in - A sense of belonging in the background, no big loud labels I don't really know where to start, since nothing at https://leaflet-extras.github.io/leaflet-providers/preview/ quite fits the bill. The most muted I could I could find (that still has blue ocean and ability to see the streets under a transparent layer) is Esri_WorldTopoMap, but not ideal I don't know how to style basemaps, though I've seen that MapBox makes it possible. I just guess there are so many attributes to style that it would be a pretty time-consuming. Would be helpful if there were "similarity" measures for the common basemaps... A note: I see now that the tiles work when zoomed in one more level so that's an improvement... Margie -- http://CommitteeMaps.org http://SugarWars.com On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Karl Wettin <karl.wet...@kodapan.se> wrote: > Hi Margie, > > don't worry, it's due to server upgrades. > > http://openstreetmap.se/nyheter/2017-09-12-english-temp-slow-tiles > > karl > > > Skickat från min iPhone > > 12 sep. 2017 kl. 19:51 skrev Margie Roswell <mrosw...@gmail.com>: > > I love Hydda Full, but today it stopped working for me. > > for instance, http://scorecard.mdlcv.org > > > When I move to Carto Positron, I miss the blue ocean, and when I move to > some others, the roads outside of Maryland attract too much attention. > Also, any of the pale basemaps don't let people to zoom in and see some > roads underlying the semi-transparent state. (Viewing the roads is helpful > for folks who want to know where the district boundaries are.) > > I'm sorry, I don't speak a word of Swedish, but Hydda Full has been my > joy, until today. > > Is there a way to restore Hydda Full? Or is there a way to style something > else to make it look like Hydda Full? > > Thanks, > > Margie > > P.S. looks like it's even down at http://openstreetmap.se... for a second > a few tiles loaded, but now I just have grey where the map would be... > > -- > http://CommitteeMaps.org > http://SugarWars.com > > ___ > Talk-se mailing list > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se > > > ___ > Talk-se mailing list > Talk-se@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se > > ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
[Talk-se] Hydda Full
I love Hydda Full, but today it stopped working for me. for instance, http://scorecard.mdlcv.org When I move to Carto Positron, I miss the blue ocean, and when I move to some others, the roads outside of Maryland attract too much attention. Also, any of the pale basemaps don't let people to zoom in and see some roads underlying the semi-transparent state. (Viewing the roads is helpful for folks who want to know where the district boundaries are.) I'm sorry, I don't speak a word of Swedish, but Hydda Full has been my joy, until today. Is there a way to restore Hydda Full? Or is there a way to style something else to make it look like Hydda Full? Thanks, Margie P.S. looks like it's even down at http://openstreetmap.se... for a second a few tiles loaded, but now I just have grey where the map would be... -- http://CommitteeMaps.org http://SugarWars.com ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [OSM-talk] New Video Tutorial: Presets in Potlatch
Thanks Richard, David, and Jean-Marc. All good ideas. (I didn't even know about the forum until just now.) I'll probably tackle the page of video tutorials later tonight. (Anyone have any favorites out there?) Best Regards, Margie On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Margie Roswell wrote: I admit to being disappointed in viewership on this one. Can anyone help to get the word out about this video? Video's great! A couple of good places to promote it would be: - newbies@ mailing list - http://forum.openstreetmap.org/ (log on with your usual - Potlatch pages on the wiki - you could replace the current Video tutorial showmedo link with a link to a new page of video tutorials cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-Video-Tutorial-Presets-in-Potlatch-tp4497563p4506427.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Query for [osm:user=XYZ] gone in XAPI V0.6?
Hi, Where are the docs for this? Thanks, Margie On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:37 AM, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: Try /api/0.6/*...@user=xyz]. It changed a while back but looks like the docs didn't get updated. I've now done that. 80n On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Martin nomorebigf...@gmx.ch wrote: Hi With XAPI V0.5 i had the possiblity to query all edits i am responsible for with: http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.5/*[osm:user=XYZ]. With XAPI V0.6 this query (http://xapi.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/*[osm:user=XYZ]) leads to a header only OSM data file. Other queries like http://xapi.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/*[bbox=8.25,47.02,8.3,47.04] are still working. Do i need to change my query (other syntax for [osm:user=XYZ]) or is this possibility gone? Or still in rework? Thanks for help. Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
This printing issues on wiki.openstreetmap.org have not been addressed. Who can fix this? Andy did some great troubleshooting last week. Can we make the openstreetmap.org wiki printable? Please?? Margie On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone figure this out, and enable straightforward printing on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide, and similarly-affected pages? The problem is that we are including the screen styles more than once, and the second time it's after the print style is defined. Section A: style type=text/css media=screen, projection/*![CDATA[*/ �...@import /skins/common/shared.css?164; �...@import /skins/monobook/main.css?164; /*]]*//style Section B: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=print href=/skins/common/commonPrint.css?164 / Section C: style type=text/css/*![CDATA[*/ @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=-action=rawgen=cssmaxage=18000useskin=monobook; /*]]*//style The inclusion of section C without any media type is overwriting parts of the commonPrint.css and messing with the margins, making every page unprintable. When I remove this element (using Firebug in Firefox) the printing is much improved. It messes up the display of the language bar, so I wonder if it's been put there to make the language chooser work. Anyway, it's a problem, and hopefully this will help one of the devs figure out what's gone wrong. I've printed plenty from the wiki in the past, so I suspect something has changed. Cheers, Andy -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
Did you try it? It doesn't work for me. Does that work for anybody? I vote for just making the page print properly by default, without the need for an extra paramater (that most people won't know about.) In any case, the parameter doesn't work for me. Margie On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net wrote: Will it do if you use the simple mediawiki printable=yes parameter when using a url? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/?printable=yestitle=Main_Page kind regards, Miblon Margie Roswell wrote: This printing issues on wiki.openstreetmap.org have not been addressed. Who can fix this? Andy did some great troubleshooting last week. Can we make the openstreetmap.org wiki printable? Please?? Margie On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone figure this out, and enable straightforward printing on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide, and similarly-affected pages? The problem is that we are including the screen styles more than once, and the second time it's after the print style is defined. Section A: style type=text/css media=screen, projection/*![CDATA[*/ @import /skins/common/shared.css?164; @import /skins/monobook/main.css?164; /*]]*//style Section B: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=print href=/skins/common/commonPrint.css?164 / Section C: style type=text/css/*![CDATA[*/ @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=-action=rawgen=cssmaxage=18000useskin=monobook; /*]]*//style The inclusion of section C without any media type is overwriting parts of the commonPrint.css and messing with the margins, making every page unprintable. When I remove this element (using Firebug in Firefox) the printing is much improved. It messes up the display of the language bar, so I wonder if it's been put there to make the language chooser work. Anyway, it's a problem, and hopefully this will help one of the devs figure out what's gone wrong. I've printed plenty from the wiki in the past, so I suspect something has changed. Cheers, Andy -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
today I was trying to print the xapi documentation. I haven't printed it, but when I look in preview (same with the JOSM documentation) things are cut off just as they were before, both with and without the printable parameter. I'm not enthusiastic about moving everything over to a different site to be able to print it. In any case, who has access to the backend of the wiki.openstreetmap.org site, so that the style sheet issue can be addressed? Margie ps: wikibooks does look intriguing. Maybe we should do both.. move some over there... but please, can whoever has access to the osm wiki backend please fix the stylesheet issue, so that existing wiki.openstreetmap.org pages print properly? Thanks! On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net wrote: For me the parameter works partially for the specific page you mentioned: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide?printable=yes Because this page contains tabs, you won't be able to print the content of the hidden tabs You can get the individual tabs printable by adding the parameter, for instance: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Basic_editing?printable=yes Another option would be to move the JOSM guide to wikibooks. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page wikibooks uses as slightly different way of wiki-tagging, but it also gives you the possibility to assign individual pages to a book and print the complete book or let wikibooks create a pdf for us. I know this is a lot of work, but it would not be a bad thing for something as basic as a josm manual. Of course you would then have to move the josm manual pages away from the openstreetmap to prevent double work. Margie Roswell wrote: Did you try it? It doesn't work for me. Does that work for anybody? I vote for just making the page print properly by default, without the need for an extra paramater (that most people won't know about.) In any case, the parameter doesn't work for me. Margie On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net wrote: Will it do if you use the simple mediawiki printable=yes parameter when using a url? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/?printable=yestitle=Main_Page kind regards, Miblon Margie Roswell wrote: This printing issues on wiki.openstreetmap.org have not been addressed. Who can fix this? Andy did some great troubleshooting last week. Can we make the openstreetmap.org wiki printable? Please?? Margie On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone figure this out, and enable straightforward printing on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide, and similarly-affected pages? The problem is that we are including the screen styles more than once, and the second time it's after the print style is defined. Section A: style type=text/css media=screen, projection/*![CDATA[*/ @import /skins/common/shared.css?164; @import /skins/monobook/main.css?164; /*]]*//style Section B: link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=print href=/skins/common/commonPrint.css?164 / Section C: style type=text/css/*![CDATA[*/ @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.cssusemsgcache=yesaction=rawctype=text/csssmaxage=18000; @import /index.php?title=-action=rawgen=cssmaxage=18000useskin=monobook; /*]]*//style The inclusion of section C without any media type is overwriting parts of the commonPrint.css and messing with the margins, making every page unprintable. When I remove this element (using Firebug in Firefox) the printing is much improved. It messes up the display of the language bar, so I wonder if it's been put there to make the language chooser work. Anyway, it's a problem, and hopefully this will help one of the devs figure out what's gone wrong. I've printed plenty from the wiki in the past, so I suspect something has changed. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New Video Tutorial: Presets in Potlatch
I admit to being disappointed in viewership on this one. Can anyone help to get the word out about this video? Thanks! Margie On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: Here's another new video tutorial: OSM Tutorial - Using the Keyboard to Save Presets in Potlatch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAnt2RSaEEAfmt=18 The 55-second video will help you to work more efficiently in OpenStreetMap.org's Potlatch Editor. Reference: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch/Keyboard_shortcuts Enjoy, Margie -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.Real-Food-Farm.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] New Video Tutorial: Presets in Potlatch
Here's another new video tutorial: OSM Tutorial - Using the Keyboard to Save Presets in Potlatch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAnt2RSaEEAfmt=18 The 55-second video will help you to work more efficiently in OpenStreetMap.org's Potlatch Editor. Reference: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch/Keyboard_shortcuts Enjoy, Margie -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.Real-Food-Farm.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New Video: How to Load a Haiti Basemap onto a Garmin GPS Receiver
Geo-folks: Please send me your feedback on the Haiti GPS video content, before I do any mass promotion (i.e. if I should consider edits, before promoting more widely). Thanks, Margie On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: New Video: How to Load a Haiti Basemap onto a Garmin GPS Receiver http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFxbfemJfBM I created this video over the past few days, in the hopes that people traveling to Haiti will find it helpful. I welcome feedback. The video integrates direct screenshots from an Oregon Garmin, footage of an Oregon and an eTrex Legend, still photos, and screen-captures of web sessions. It's 2-minutes, 16-seconds (02:16). Hope this proves helpful! Best Regards, Margie P.S. I've made a request to have a link added to http://haiti.crisiscommons.org/gps (PPS. Not much I can do about the odd little video glitch at 00:44. Other images rotated successfully, but not that one.) -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.Real-Food-Farm.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
can't print from wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide Can someone please fix the print stylesheet? It's not working on my mac, on my windows, in Chrome, in Safari, in Firefox; Maybe it's my print driver/cables, but I asked my friend (who has a PC ) to print it, and his is chopped off as well. In essence, no matter what I do, a third of the page doesn't appear. It chops off the left side. Weird... Im not having this problem with other pages, but I think everything on the wiki.openstreetmap.org site is doing this for me. (Am I--with my friend--the only one(s) with this problem?) Best Regards, Margie -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] can't print from wiki
pasting each tab contents into a new document
I did that as a solution the other day, and lost all the graphics.
editing out the stuff that's not relevant to a paper copy
BTW, generally a good print.css stylesheet removes links that are not
relevant to paper copy.
In any case, I'm working on a new Mac, and very out of sorts with
everything. Extremely productive yesterday (finished that Haiti GPS
video). Nothing's getting done today.
I hope, that no matter how many work-arounds we can do, that someone
can fix what I assume is a stylesheet problem? Not really sure...
I'm looking at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/skins/common/commonPrint.css?164
and I see these {display:none} selectors:
.noprint,
div#jump-to-nav,
div.top,
div#column-one,
#colophon,
.editsection,
.toctoggle,
.tochidden,
div#f-poweredbyico,
div#f-copyrightico,
li#viewcount,
li#about,
li#disclaimer,
li#privacy {
/* Hides all the elements irrelevant for printing */
display: none;
But not sure that anything there is the problem.
Can anyone figure this out, and enable straightforward printing on
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide, and similarly-affected
pages?
Margie
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:27 PM, SomeoneElse
li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote:
Margie Roswell wrote:
can't print from wiki
This may be a very silly question, but given that that page is tabbed
wouldn't you be better off pasting each tab contents into a new document
and editing out the stuff that's not relevant to a paper copy (links to
other wiki pages, for example)?
Then you can format so that it looks sensible on paper, too.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti: All in One Garmin Map now with Damage layer and MapSource installer
Thanks for the helpful replies, all. Is there a list of which (presumably Garmin) GPS's support all-in-one and which don't? On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Colin Marquardt wrote: Well, the latter one probably doesn't have anything specifically added for the crisis correct. , and may route you along roads tagged with impassable=yes for instance (something which the All in One avoids). not correct until 5 minutes ago - because I wasn't even using the --route flag to mkgmap so the Geofabrik maps haven't ever routed anyone anywhere. Not that people complained though - it seems that in Haiti people prefer to navigate for themselves ;-) I have now added the routing capability and NSIS installer to the Geofabrik stuff as well (thank you Lambertus for the detailed instructions), and I will continue offering these downloads, but if your GPS is capable of running the all in one map then I recommend using that instead of the simple map on the Geofabrik site. I would recommend that http://haiti.crisiscommons.org/gps/ be changed to point to the all in one map downloads, or at least list them as the #1 choice, and use the Geofabrik stuff only as a fallback if you have an older Garmin model that doesn't support the all in one. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicated Refugee Camps
This is a great offer (to be able to make potlatch more efficient for Haiti mapping) Can the group come to a consensus that it'll be helpful to have the following codes added to potlatch Refugee=Yes Source=Google, 2010-01-7 Source=WorldBank, 2010-01-22 Are there other source codes that people are using frequently, that we might like to request be added to potlatch? Here's the wiki page for a reference: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Imagery_and_data_sources#WorldBank_Imagery Around 6pm EST, I'll start a potlatch ticket (request) based on feedback. Best Regards, Margie On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Margie Roswell wrote: Is there a way to put Refugee=Yes and Source=Google, 2010-01-17 as values in the backend? If you guys can come to a consensus as to what tags you'd like to have added, then let me know (ideally by starting a ticket at http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ with potlatch (flash editor) as the component, and a subject line including Haiti)... then I'm more than happy to add them to Potlatch. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Duplicated-Refugee-Camps-tp4449374p4450826.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicated Refugee Camps
I'm sure refugee=yes is going to be helpful! I think in the documentation it says S, which is why that never worked for me. (That's from memory...) Ah, here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Potlatch-cheatsheet.svg Can someone correct that? (Change S to B) On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Margie Roswell wrote: Are there other source codes that people are using frequently, that we might like to request be added to potlatch? On the specific issue of source= tags, Potlatch best practice is that you select the imagery you want from the popup menu, then use the B (for 'background') keypress to automatically tag the selected way/node with the appropriate value. That way, everyone mapping from that imagery uses the same value. Ævar's already asked for feedback on what imagery should be available in the popup menu, so do let him know. But yes, do let me know what other tags you'd like to see. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Duplicated-Refugee-Camps-tp4449374p4456187.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicated Refugee Camps
Jean-Guilhem, thanks for forwarding my note... I have a weird Kinesis keyboard, so I don't know if my copy/paste-in-JOSM problem is Kinesis specific, or not. Anyone else use JOSM on a mac? If so, are you able to copy and paste in the WMS setup? By the way, I'd love a session on Saturday at DC CrisisCamp (is anyone from here going to be there?) on JOSM. (Andrew gave me a good start, but could use a bit more.) My note on EventBrite said I'd be there in the afternoon, but looks like morning is now my only option. If we could schedule a 10 am JOSM tutorial in DC, I'll do my best to be there! Best, Margie On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton (Arkemie) arke...@free.fr wrote: Let's try to call for a little homegrown OSM_Emergency here : Gentlemen JOSM developers, would you be so kind to get copy and paste working in JOSM on Margie's Mac, please ? :) Yeah, try to figure out how the sticky map works. Once you do, it's a snap to get anywhere. Jean-Guilhem, same here Margie Roswell a écrit : I tried... was doing battle finding where the heck the worldbank areas were. Need probably a 5 minute tutorial... Anyhow, will switch, once I can get it to work. I installed the validator and wms plugins, but just don't know my way around there yet. Ah: big barrier: copy and paste doesn't work on my mac in JOSM, for some reason. So, entering the WMS urls is a bear!!! Anyhow, not a bad thing to get a refugee tag in there, since it's being used. Margie, ever-learning! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote: Hi Margie, You still haven't switched to JOSM ? :( Jean-Guilhem :) (You are going to know Potlach's insides-outs so well you'll never want to change again, to throw it away and start from scratch. ;) Well, it's your own investments of course) Margie Roswell a écrit : I'm sure refugee=yes is going to be helpful! I think in the documentation it says S, which is why that never worked for me. (That's from memory...) Ah, here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Potlatch-cheatsheet.svg Can someone correct that? (Change S to B) On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Margie Roswell wrote: Are there other source codes that people are using frequently, that we might like to request be added to potlatch? On the specific issue of source= tags, Potlatch best practice is that you select the imagery you want from the popup menu, then use the B (for 'background') keypress to automatically tag the selected way/node with the appropriate value. That way, everyone mapping from that imagery uses the same value. Ævar's already asked for feedback on what imagery should be available in the popup menu, so do let him know. But yes, do let me know what other tags you'd like to see. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Duplicated-Refugee-Camps-tp4449374p4456187.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Keeping the Haiti Camps Up to Date
I did a slew of those points-to-polygons, yay! :) The Google Doc with the links (I'm guessing you're referring to the point-to-polygon spreadsheet?) was very helpful. What do you mean by something else? Bring it on! Best Regards, Margie On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hey All, We are doing great on moving from points to polygons with all the refugee campsites. We now have awesome 8cm imagery available from the 22nd. Was the google doc I made helpful? Would you like something else? I could add more links with other imagery. I know reloading the flash is annoying but I figured it was better than having to zoom around to find a camp. I could do an export of the camps to OSM files for Potlatch users if that is helpful. Thoughts? -Kate ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicated Refugee Camps
Also noticing Area=Yes tags. Is that useful info? (I'd have thought that OSM knew the areas were areas?) Margie 2010/1/24 Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com: I noticed a point had: earthquake=spontaneous_camp Is it correct to just leave the tags as source=Google, 2010-01-17 tourism=camp_site refugee=yes 2010/1/24 Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com: I'll be happy to work on this. I'm starting at #57, and working down from there. 2010/1/24 Raphaël Jacquot sxp...@sxpert.org: On Sun, 2010-01-24 at 09:08 -0600, Kate Chapman wrote: Hi All, I was extracting the refugee camp data and there are duplicates between point level and polygon level data. remove the point data if possible. polygons allow for estimating number of people by surface occupied ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes
I added a quality code to: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoyf-OlHreuhdDBkSWJ2d1FtMkpkTzZrV1B4dDlKREEhl=en 1=precise; 2=nearby; 3=approx village centroid Is there a way to implement that in OSM? (so that people will know whether they're getting approximate location?) Margie On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:23 AM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org To: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net Cc: Adrian Brain adrianpbr...@yahoo.co.uk; talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes Hi, David Groom wrote: I have attached tags for the majority of pcode level 2 already to towns and villages, using the pcode:2 tags as suggested on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Emergency_Response_.26_Relief_Support_Infrastructure I believe that the pcode2 should probably refer to an administrative district rather than a place, but it would have been more time consuming in the first instance to break up the current admin boundaries and create relations to make smaller boundaries at the pcode:2 level. Its probably a task for later. Should I include the p-code tag(s) in the place layer in the shapefiles on labs.geofabrik.de/haiti? This afternnon a lot of work has now gone in to creating better level 8 aadmin boundaries and adding P-Coide data to the admin boundaries relations. Not all are complete yet, but a large number are. Is it possible for you to produce an admin boundaries layer and add it to the shapefile zip? David Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes
somebody replaced my header with: NO NEW COLUMNS PLEASE: We have no use for this data I can't imagine that that's the case. I'm disappointed to have data removed. I understand if quality code data can't be used, possibly, in OSM. But somewhere, there should be a record of whether something is located to within a precise address, to a village centroid, or within a km of a town. Darn, really disappointed I'm not even sure to whom I should direct this issue? Who was the person who took out the header, complete with descriptions of (what I think are really reasonable) codes 1-4? Anyhow, I'm feeling deflated. I thought I was providing a really valuable service, and now, given that I don't know the location of the hospitals, and have generally been finding village and town centroids, it feels like really bad data, especially minus a quality code. My original description for the new column said: Quality code 1=precise geocode 2=nearby 3=village, within 0.3 km 4=town, within 1km Margie, working on http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoyf-OlHreuhdDBkSWJ2d1FtMkpkTzZrV1B4dDlKREEhl=en On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: I added a quality code to: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoyf-OlHreuhdDBkSWJ2d1FtMkpkTzZrV1B4dDlKREEhl=en 1=precise; 2=nearby; 3=approx village centroid Is there a way to implement that in OSM? (so that people will know whether they're getting approximate location?) Margie On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:23 AM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org To: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net Cc: Adrian Brain adrianpbr...@yahoo.co.uk; talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes Hi, David Groom wrote: I have attached tags for the majority of pcode level 2 already to towns and villages, using the pcode:2 tags as suggested on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Emergency_Response_.26_Relief_Support_Infrastructure I believe that the pcode2 should probably refer to an administrative district rather than a place, but it would have been more time consuming in the first instance to break up the current admin boundaries and create relations to make smaller boundaries at the pcode:2 level. Its probably a task for later. Should I include the p-code tag(s) in the place layer in the shapefiles on labs.geofabrik.de/haiti? This afternnon a lot of work has now gone in to creating better level 8 aadmin boundaries and adding P-Coide data to the admin boundaries relations. Not all are complete yet, but a large number are. Is it possible for you to produce an admin boundaries layer and add it to the shapefile zip? David Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes
Hi Mark, thanks for the note. Honestly, I truly believe that it's better to capture the confidence or quality code, whichever you want to call it, when the data is captured. And having the legend left there (descriptions of 1-4) helps people do to that. You call it mission creep, but I think it's just an improved workflow; It makes more sense then trying to determine the quality of the data after-the-fact-of collection. Anyhow, I have placed several town centroids in there, and I know others have, and without a place to record that, it's just oy, really irksome, to this longtime GIS-er. (I got my first copy of MapInfo 19 years ago!) I can't in good conscience continue adding data without also signaling that the point is not accurate. With the satellite photography, you can tell if a town is small, or big,. And with a Google Maps ruler, you can see if your point is likely to be within one km or 0.3 km. Those confidence codes were designed to reflect that. We have to agree to common standards for the data schema and lock out changes - such as a new column. What sort of protocol is in place (if any) for agreeing to modify the common standards, to add a confidence code (or quality code)? What would it involve, technically (schema-wise), and socially? (Is crisismappers the appropriate list for this conversation? If so, happy to remove the talk from future distribution.) Margie On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Mark Prutsalis globali...@gmail.com wrote: I did... This spreadsheet is only for geo-locating the hospitals - then it will be fed back to OSM or anyone else who wants it - who is free to track confidence and other attributes. I agree that confidence is an important measure, but... mission creep The data entered is retained... and we can use it - but it was very incomplete - and other lists are not similarly categorized furthering the data integrity issues. That is the problem with these shared google spreadsheets. If you change their purpose and structure, they can no longer serve their original intended purpose. What we want to do is this: have a live spreadsheet that can be synced with a database - such that updates to the spreadsheet automatically update the database and vice-versa. We have to agree to common standards for the data schema and lock out changes - such as a new column. I will send an update shortly explaining further the proposal going forward. Best regards, Mark Margie Roswell wrote: somebody replaced my header with: NO NEW COLUMNS PLEASE: We have no use for this data I can't imagine that that's the case. I'm disappointed to have data removed. I understand if quality code data can't be used, possibly, in OSM. But somewhere, there should be a record of whether something is located to within a precise address, to a village centroid, or within a km of a town. Darn, really disappointed I'm not even sure to whom I should direct this issue? Who was the person who took out the header, complete with descriptions of (what I think are really reasonable) codes 1-4? Anyhow, I'm feeling deflated. I thought I was providing a really valuable service, and now, given that I don't know the location of the hospitals, and have generally been finding village and town centroids, it feels like really bad data, especially minus a quality code. My original description for the new column said: Quality code 1=precise geocode 2=nearby 3=village, within 0.3 km 4=town, within 1km Margie, working on http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoyf-OlHreuhdDBkSWJ2d1FtMkpkTzZrV1B4dDlKREEhl=en On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: I added a quality code to: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoyf-OlHreuhdDBkSWJ2d1FtMkpkTzZrV1B4dDlKREEhl=en 1=precise; 2=nearby; 3=approx village centroid Is there a way to implement that in OSM? (so that people will know whether they're getting approximate location?) Margie On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:23 AM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org To: David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net Cc: Adrian Brain adrianpbr...@yahoo.co.uk; talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes Hi, David Groom wrote: I have attached tags for the majority of pcode level 2 already to towns and villages, using the pcode:2 tags as suggested on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags#Emergency_Response_.26_Relief_Support_Infrastructure I believe that the pcode2 should probably refer to an administrative district rather than a place, but it would have been more time consuming in the first instance to break up the current admin boundaries and create relations to make smaller boundaries at the pcode:2 level. Its probably a task for later. Should I include the p-code tag(s) in the place layer
[OSM-talk] How can I help?
I've got a GIS background. Happy to get up to speed on OSM. What can I do to help Haiti relief and mapping efforts? I plan to be at the CrisisCamp DC on Saturday. I can attend in the afternoon. Margie -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How can I help?
happy to start on that. What's the best way to determine those lat-long points. Just internet research, or is there any other more direct approach? Margie On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote: Margie, Even before learning OSM tools, you can be very useful by looking up the coordinates of Haiti hospitals. Please see : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/News There is a shared spreadsheet to fill. And people that already know OSM can then use the coordinates you could find into OSM. Thank you, Jean-Guilhem Katie Filbert a critic : On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a GIS background. Happy to get up to speed on OSM. What can I do to help Haiti relief and mapping efforts? I plan to be at the CrisisCamp DC on Saturday. I can attend in the afternoon. Margie Margie, I will be there and can give a tutorial on Saturday. If you want to help with OSM before then, then the new mapper guide might help: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/New_Mapper What we've done up until now is digitize streets and features, looked for collapsed buildings (less priority now), and for camps (high priority now). We used imagery from GeoEye and DigitalGlobe, but the resolution was only so good. We now have access to .15 m resolution imagery from Google, with their permission, we can trace from in OpenStreetMap. What I'm doing now (and you can do) is going back through what's been done in Port-au-Prince and other areas and identifying camps. We missed many before, but are apparent in the new imagery. I am using Potlatch, the web-based editor (the edit tab on the OSM site). We have a couple video tutorials that might help you with using Potlatch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6pBBK1SHh0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oio1jY8WNig For camps, I am simply drawing them as polygons. Tags I use are: * tourism = camp_site * refugee = yes * source = Google (others on this list may be able to suggest better tags that these, but these work) We can also do cleanup of the existing data, using the new imagery (e.g. some roads need to be fixed). If you have questions, you can e-mail the osm-talk list. Or feel free to join us on live chat: http://irc.openstreetmap.org and we can answer questions and help you out. Thanks again for willingness to help out with mapping! Regards, Katie Filbert @filbertkm -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Margie http://www.BaltimoreUrbanAg.org http://www.FarmersMarketVideo.org http://www.FriendlyCoffeehouse.org http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-5-views-recipes/book ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
