Re: [talk-ph] Did somebody do a mapping party or mapping session in Davao City?
Yep, I did an OSM seminar workshop for my students in Ateneo. Its always a good idea to follow the tracks of these newbies. Let me see if somebody snap some photos. -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 2/4/2012 2:48:16 PM To: sea...@gmail.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Did somebody do a mapping party or mapping session in Davao City? I also suggest some of us to re-visit the work of murlwe's new recruits. Perhaps we can guide them in correcting some common mistakes. We were all noobs once. I'm sure at least in my experience, that I didn't get it right the first time. On Feb 4, 2012 10:29 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Ah! What's the background of the seminar? Are there photos that we can publicize? :) On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 10:21 AM, George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com wrote: He held an OSM seminar yesterday :) On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: The following user accounts have started editing in and around Davao City yesterday and today: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Nyna/edits http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/sheilamaybautista/edits http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Kibun/edits http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kaloy/edits http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/donnalyn_tarrazona/edits http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/EldonCalamba/edits http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/missuah/edits http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dinzlee/edits http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/harlzranch/edits I'm guessing murlwe had something to do with this? :) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Admin Boundary and Coastline
Is there a need to clamp the admin boundaries to the coastline? span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Admin Boundary of Davao City and Davao del Norte REMOVED
You again! Ian Haylock, I need that Admin boundary. Do you think that was incorrectly placed? Why remove it? it says in your changeset you are fixing errors. murlwe From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 5/19/2011 8:23:18 PM To: mur...@mail2engineer.com Cc: Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Admin Boundary of Davao City and Davao del Norte REMOVED Is this the changeset? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/61959357 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Marloue Pidor wrote: I noticed that the boundary I set between Davao City and Island Garden City of Samal was deleted. It was derived from 1:50k topographic map May I ask the group who deleted it? Best Regards, murlwe P.S. Please revert the deletion. ___ Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage - POP3 - Calendar - SMS - Translator - Much More! ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Admin Boundary and Coastline
Hi Eugene, I find it easier if the Barangay boundaries be extendend to the City/Municipal boundary, City/Municipal boundary be extended to the Provincial boundary, Provincial boundary to the Country boundary. This is just a suggestion for the coastal areas as you said to map out the exact municipal and provincial waters. If you notice here, http://osm.org/go/4sY75GPk-- the admin boundaries are clamped to the shoreline and creating the same to the island when we can include those island to the municipal boundary. I'm suggesting this because on a GIS point of view, it is easier to look for places when it is placed inside boundaries. murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 5/19/2011 10:13:33 PM To: mur...@mail2engineer.com Cc: Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Admin Boundary and Coastline There's no real need. The idea is that in the future we would be able to map out the exact municipal and provincial waters. But until then, making the admin boundaries just tackle land for the moment is manageable since data is much more readily available. Please reply if you have other suggestions. :) On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: Is there a need to clamp the admin boundaries to the coastline? . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Admin Boundary and Coastline
Maning, we have the need to do that at least in Davao because we have this Disaster Preparedness project here and it includes monitoring of passenger sea vessels via GPS/SMS?RF going from Davao to Samal so I need the boundaries. We are using OSM as the base map. That is also the reason why I am adding now the Barangay boundaries to have some idea to where the vessel on the map. Eugene, that information help me a lot so now I would limit the barangay boundary to 22kms or 30kms from the shoreline. Thanks for the info guys. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 5/20/2011 12:15:48 PM To: Cc: mur...@mail2engineer.com; Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Admin Boundary and Coastline On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Murlwe, I don't think that municipal/provincial waters should be clamped to the national waters. According to the UNCLOS, national waters are those that are within 12 nautical miles (about 22km) from the coastline. According to the Philippine Fisheries Code of 1998, municipal waters are within 15 kilometers of the coastline. In addition, there is yet no rule on how to deal with overlapping municipal waters. According to the Fisheries Code: Where two (2) municipalities are so situated on opposite shores that there is less than thirty (30) kilometers of marine waters between them, the third line shall be equally distant from the opposite shore of the respective municipalities. This can be easily done with a GIS buffer operation, but I don't find any real need for osm to do that. You can of course download the osm data and create your preferred boundary within a GIS app. I couldn't find a law stating anything about provincial waters, but I assume they encompass their municipalities' waters. Same with barangay waters. So the idea is to mark admin boundaries of barangays, municipalities/cities and provinces as just the land portions for now. This includes islands. This is a touchy issue (politically), so for now, I agree with using coastlines as part of the admin boundary. Plus, it is easier to maintain the data since when we move the the coastline, the admin boundary in relation to the coastline move as well. Although I have different opinion with clamping boundary relations to rivers. If the concern is that you want to signify that places/landmarks of an LGU are within its boundaries in GIS terms, then the GIS app need to support boundaries that are composed of multiple polygons. For example, Caloocan City is composed of 2 disjoint territories http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=273242. To say that a street or POI is within Caloocan, the GIS app needs to support multiple polygons. I think postgis can do this. Same thing goes currently with LGUs that have islands. The admin boundaries currently include islands as multipolygons. For example, Romblon, whose boundaries are currently clamped to the coastlines of all of its constituent islands: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=1506343. Eugene On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: Hi Eugene, I find it easier if the Barangay boundaries be extendend to the City/Municipal boundary, City/Municipal boundary be extended to the Provincial boundary, Provincial boundary to the Country boundary. This is just a suggestion for the coastal areas as you said to map out the exact municipal and provincial waters. If you notice here, http://osm.org/go/4sY75GPk-- the admin boundaries are clamped to the shoreline and creating the same to the island when we can include those island to the municipal boundary. I'm suggesting this because on a GIS point of view, it is easier to look for places when it is placed inside boundaries. murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 5/19/2011 10:13:33 PM To: mur...@mail2engineer.com Cc: Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Admin Boundary and Coastline There's no real need. The idea is that in the future we would be able to map out the exact municipal and provincial waters. But until then, making the admin boundaries just tackle land for the moment is manageable since data is much more readily available. Please reply if you have other suggestions. :) On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: Is there a need to clamp the admin boundaries to the coastline? . ___ Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage - POP3 - Calendar - SMS - Translator - Much More! -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea
Re: [talk-ph] routing errors in davao city
Tutubi, I am based in Davao, thanks for the info. - where exactly the routing errors? To correct them. - why do you think J. P. Laurel Ave. be a single-carriageway? (should review also East Ave and NIA Road in Manila those are part of my reference) - the turn restrictions are new to Davao we will be updating that. Add the errors here: http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=14lat=7.103lon=125.682 Well, I really think the National Highway from Talomo to Ilang in Tibunco should be a dual-carriageway. Best, murlwe -Original Message- From: tutubi [tut...@backpackingphilippines.com] Sent: 3/31/2011 10:44:23 AM To: Subject: Re: [talk-ph] routing errors in davao city hi! anyone based in davao? was there for 2 days (tuesday and wednesday) again after 7 years and boy, davao is really booming! Since I already stored the coordinates of my destination prior to my trips, i noticed routing errors caused by JP Laurel depicted as dual-carriageway that should only be a single-carriageway, 4 lane highway that's actually davao's main road the only segments i noticed where it should be depicted as dual are those near the Bajada interchange, and portions near Victory mall (where turn restriction should also be placed) and probably near C.M. Recto near Marco Polo another such road is C.P Garcia leading to the airport and probably portions of davao-agusan highway Davao City has great coverage but routing is problematic due to the dual- carriageways (a similar case in Cebu City's Archbishop Reyes) Hope we can clean things up. I'll be going back there in a few months time -- --- I explore, therefore I blog. http://www.backpackingphilippines.com span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Davao Mapping
Maning, I can schedule a session on Saturday morning in Ateneo, all I need is a list of names of people (for AdDU guards to let you in) who want to join the meetup? My students wants to join the mapping tutorial/meetup. I will provide the facilities you need (Room, DLP Projector, etc...) Please sign up below: 1. Maning Sambale 2. Frank Woolf 3. George Tujan -Original Message- From: Frank Woolf [fr...@frankwoolf.com] Sent: 1/18/2011 5:30:50 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Davao Mapping I would be interested to meet other Davao Mappers. Please let me know what your plans are. I have mostly concentrated on Samal Island as I have various properties there and when I started using a GPS the were almost no roads on the Map. I have added a lot using my own tracks and hope to get around to doing more. I stopped when the OSM map configuration changed and the map for Davao included so many other countries and area it became so big that I had problems downloading the huge files. Regards Frank On Jan 18, 2011, at 11:39 AM, talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Message: 5 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:38:40 +0800 From: maning sambale To: osm-ph Subject: [talk-ph] davao meetup? Message-ID: aanlktikncjl013wwj0m2fnji4hrtv0fsbdfc+rox-...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Davao mappers, I will be down south next week. Perhaps a short mapping/tutorial/meetup on Saturday Jan 29 before I fly back home? -- cheers, maning span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Want more aerial imagery? Why not do it yourself?
Oi, tama pwede pala ganyan di ko naisip... simple pa. You have similar project with Eugene pala. -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 6/26/2010 4:15:14 PM To: sea...@gmail.com Cc: mur...@mail2engineer.com;talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Want more aerial imagery? Why not do it yourself? @murlwe, my plan is not to release the balloon. I want it on low altitudes as far as my string and helium can support. On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: The guys in the vimeo link I posted used GPS tracking. I don't know exactly how, but it seems that the package transmits GPS coordinates somehow and they used it to track where the package fell. On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: maning, question... how are you going to retrieve at least the camera attached to the balloon? -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 6/26/2010 1:41:17 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Want more aerial imagery? Why not do it yourself? Cool! I have a similar balloon mapping ideas in my mind for the last two months already. I hacked my canon cam with chdk for this. Tried some experiments with kites but they were too unstable. I'm actually looking for cheap weather balloons and a helium tank to test my rig. Any tips where to buy cheap balloons and borrow a portable aluminum helium tank? On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: http://vimeo.com/12421661 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph . ___ Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage - POP3 - Calendar - SMS - Translator - Much More! ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] UN-SPIDER is using OSM data
United Nations Platform for Space-Based Information for Disaster Management and Emergency Response is using OSM data, the shape files are outdated they need to update (last update: Sept. 3, 2009) their data set. http://www.un-spider.org/story/gist-data-sets-philippinest Best, murlwe span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] UN-SPIDER is using OSM data
Oops, typo error You do? That's nice. -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 6/16/2010 10:24:49 AM To: mur...@mail2engineer.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] UN-SPIDER is using OSM data link should be: http://www.un-spider.org/story/gist-data-sets-philippines I now work for the UN? :) On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: http://www.un-spider.org/story/gist-data-sets-philippinest -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Kumusta?
Hi Craig I'm Marloue from Davao City. I prepared cheat sheet for OSM you may use this to facilitate your mapping. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1418629/OpenStreetMap%20cheat%20sheet.pdf Best, murlwe -Original Message- From: Craig [nuclearmo...@gmail.com] Sent: 4/22/2010 7:20:13 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Kumusta? Hello, everyone. This is just a short introductory note... My name is Craig Hartel, and I live in Dawson Creek, BC Canada. I am married to a Cebuana from Cebu City and I have family and friends there. I am a geomatics technician, working for the government of BC with the Ministry of Forests. I have been in the mapping field since 1992. My work has mostly centred around resource inventories and the issuance of tenures for road building and other resource development. I have a great love for the Philippines and I am eager to help with the mapping efforts. I would guess it would be logical for me to start in the Cebu City / Talisay City area as those are where I am most familiar. While new to OSM, I hope to quickly learn how to use the available tools and contribute in a meaningful way. I also have contacts in Cebu who have GPS units who have stated that the would collect data points whenever they can. I've joined the OSM - Philippines member list already, and I would love to hear you recommendations for the best tool set(s) to use for mapping purposes. Any advice you have would be appreciatively received. Salamat po! Craig. span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] SOTM 2010 scholarships
Yes Eugene, my nomination is the same. You and Maning. -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 4/20/2010 10:15:14 PM To: emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] SOTM 2010 scholarships My earlier nomination stands: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2010-March/001967.html I think Marloue's stands as well: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2010-March/001983..htm l :-) On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:29 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest we start the nominations. As in the past we can nominate two. Get your passport ready! On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:36 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: http://stateofthemap.org/state-of-the-map-2010-travel-scholarship/ http://stateofthemap.org/scholarship/ -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Node position for towns
Good idea, moving Davao City to the City Hall. Let me see if it look better there. What I did before is to place those city/municipal name markers to a place where there's few POI's. Best, murlwe -Original Message- From: Ed Garcia [eppgar...@gmail.com] Sent: 4/6/2010 8:46:58 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Node position for towns Hi all. I have partially brought this subject up with Maning some time ago and would just like bring it up again on the forum ... I propose to make it standard to position town nodes as near as possible to the municipal hall of the towns. This makes for better and easier navigation when using the osmphil_garmin GPS map that Maning compiles. Most town nodes are still located at the geographical center of the boundaries of the town. If the node is moved near to the municipal hall (which is usually along the main road of the town), a traveller can see better what town is next down the road when he/she navigates with a GPS. cheers ed -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Node position for towns
+1 for me too. (http://osm.org/go/4sYiZTA6-) -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 4/6/2010 8:49:59 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Node position for towns +1 for me On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. I have partially brought this subject up with Maning some time ago and would just like bring it up again on the forum ... I propose to make it standard to position town nodes as near as possible to the municipal hall of the towns. This makes for better and easier navigation when using the osmphil_garmin GPS map that Maning compiles. Most town nodes are still located at the geographical center of the boundaries of the town. If the node is moved near to the municipal hall (which is usually along the main road of the town), a traveller can see better what town is next down the road when he/she navigates with a GPS. cheers ed -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Copied from Google Mapmaker?
Hi guys I stumbled to this area and... Compare: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=7.08823lon=125.49418zoom=15layers=B 000FTF http://www.google.com/mapmaker?ll=7.090033,125.495968spn=0.02057,0.0378 51z=15 I corrected the roads earlier but later I realized that there is no satellite image in the area and I found out that the user who contributed the data doesn't have any GPS traces. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/43622767/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/timominous/traces I already contacted the user. I am waiting for his/her reply. murlwe span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Node position for towns
On that note, Maguindanao's Municipal Hall is located somewhere in the plains with only two large structures in sight the rest are insignificant. That's the center of the municipality and almost nothing around the area. I been there years before and still no significant structures around the town center except two big houses. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 4/7/2010 6:52:03 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Node position for towns And of course there will be exceptions. Puerto Princesa City Hall is several kilometers away from the traditional city center/poblacion. Some towns are also relocating town halls away from the poblacion in order to add more buildings and decongest the center. On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest to place the node in the town/city proper, which is not the geographical center and not always where the city or town hall is. The city/town proper is basically where the town plaza or poblacion area is. Usually, it's where the church or public market is. For example, the Las Pinas city hall is here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=14.4496929645538mlon=120.9824967384 34zoom=14 But I placed the Las Pinas place=city node in the poblacion area, where the plaza and the main church (home of the famous Bamboo Organ) is: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=14.4809997081757mlon=120.9815955162 05zoom=14 On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Ed Garcia wrote, On Tuesday, 06 April, 2010 10:05 PM: Glad you agree guys! Surprised to see so many +1s in barely an hour from posting. Okay then, I'll start with San Antonio in Zambales. That town node is currently so far away from town proper ... it is currently located on the mountains. Seems like a lot of these town / village / city markers are way off the mark to begin with. I guess they were imported en masse from an imprecise source. They usually seem to be 1 or 2 km off the mark. Usually when I find them, I'll drag them closer to a known settlement -- sort of plonk it in the middle of the most obvious mass of houses on a satellite view, or near the most obvious confluence of roads. Then when someone with more local knowledge finds it, they drag it closer to the City Hall ... and when the City Hall is actually on the map, then it's truly accurate. This process of gradually getting more and more precise seems to be what OSM is all about really. Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 920 912 5830 Hong Kong: +852 6840 6693 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
Wow! this is nice, definitely this will help populate Bohol map. Best, murlwe -Original Message- From: Jeroen Hellingman [jer...@bohol.ph] Sent: 3/31/2010 4:04:18 AM To: Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import Hi All, I've added a promotional article on this subject on my website http://www.bohol.ph/article.php?id=243 Hope it helps to attract more volunteers. Remarks and corrections welcome! Jeroen. On 2010-03-30 19:56, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Well, because of Potlatch's 'R' key, many of Arivac's IDs are no longer correct. :-P On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Totor totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Great job Maning, and thanks to Arivac for the data. Some users are even more exited than you Maning: Doy_nick is already racing to improve the data ! http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=123.626%2C9.54%2C124.18%2C9.8 06 span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Philippine representative to SOTM 2010
Yep, lets start voting before they announce it. My vote is for Maning and Eugene. Eugene, ready na ba ang passport mo? hehe Best, murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 3/29/2010 8:19:39 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Philippine representative to SOTM 2010 Hi guys, It's almost quite sure that SOTM will be having the scholarship program again so I guess we need to decide among ourselves who will go to Spain to represent and present about the Philippine OSM community. Just like last year, my vote goes to Maning and my second vote is for Marloue. :-) Eugene (osm:seav) span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Bacolod
I think his apology was sincere, he wanted our help... lets help him get Bacolod in the map the right way. That's a common mistake of most OSM newbies, putting copyrighted material into OSM. Best, Marloue (murlwe) -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 2/28/2010 12:36:08 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Bacolod http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/goodbyebacolod:-(/diary/9683 On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:33 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the transcript of our conversation from first to last (while I was sending him messages he changed his user name fro mgarrucho - jrizal - rgarchitorena - jjocson - goodbyebacolod:-) ) == To jjocson Subject regarding your edits in Bacolod DateThu, 25 Feb 2010 23:30:53 + jrizal, Hi! I've seen your edits in Bacaolod and they are really great. I am happy to see that Openstreetmap Philippine data is expanding to the Negros Island. However, I noticed that your contributions have a striking similarity to GoogleMaps' data. See this and use the slider on the top-right: http://sautter.com/map/?zoom=13lat=10.65976lon=122.97031layers=B0 TF As far as I know the only gps tracks in Bacolod are the ones I uploaded months ago. Apologies if this may seem too accusing but please explain the sources of your contributions. Thanks! maning = You mean your the only one who has a gps in bacolod Anyways they are maps and for sure they would look similar right. I got it from NASA. jrizal = To jjocson Subject Re: regarding your edits in Bacolod DateFri, 26 Feb 2010 08:04:47 + On Fri Feb 26 07:47:03 UTC 2010 rgarchitorena wrote: You mean your the only one who has a gps in bacolod No, what I mean here are the only gps traces uploaded in OSM I know are some of the traces I added (donated by other contributors). Anyways they are maps and for sure they would look similar right. I got it from NASA. Can you explain further what you mean by NASA? I use JOSM as an editor as well, it would be good if you can share what specific WMS or NASA imagery you used so that others can use it and improve the data. Just in case you didn't know, we are not allowed to copy data from copyrighted materials (an example is GoogleMaps). Most of NASA's imagery are public domain, so if you are using NASA's data that is OK. But we need to explicitly provide citation/source of information. Thanks again! == From jjocson Subject Re: regarding your edits in Bacolod DateFri, 26 Feb 2010 08:51:15 + Sorry but its personal if you want I can sell you the program :-)or perhaps you can give me your details so I can visit you and give you some lessons. === If the data source is personal = not available to the public = not suitable for OSM. Unless the data provider which you say is NASA gave explicit permission to use the images for OSM, I don't think it is right to use it in OSM. No offense my friend, but we want the OSM data to be clean as much as possible of copyright issues. If you want Bacolod to be in the OSm map. We can help you do it by gathering GPS tracks. We can lend you a GPS if you don't own one. Keep on mapping. From jjocson Subject Re: regarding your edits in Bacolod DateFri, 26 Feb 2010 09:04:34 + What a conclusion! Why sould I help you with what I'm doing if you got an attitude. And who the F are you anyway? THE OSM OWNER On Fri Feb 26 08:56:29 UTC 2010 maning wrote: And then I sent another reply which I wasn't able to sent because he changed his username while I was sending it to rgarchitorena. == To jjocson Subject changing usernames in a day DateFri, 26 Feb 2010 09:34:53 + You are a funny guy. You changed you usernames from mgarrucho to jrizal to rgarchitorena to jjocson. I simply asked you to explain your source (which is very similar to Google's data). I simply followed OSM's guidelines here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FAQ#I_think_someone.27s_been_enterin g_copyrighted_data_-_how_do_we_deal_with_that.3F For such cases. I have no resort but to report your edits to the OSM Foundation Board Members. cheers, maning From jjocson Subject Re: changing usernames in a day DateFri, 26 Feb 2010 09:44:17 + I dont care mate! do what you have to do. == And then he replied again with a new username From goodbyebacolod:-) Subject Bacolod DateFri, 26 Feb 2010 16:55:55 + I think we got off with the wrong foot here. Yes your right its similar to google and in the wsm settings it says NASA and localhost 8998. Ive been using this for 3 to 4 days and think its fine since its in the editor. If thats something against ur
Re: [talk-ph] Gensan Google Mapping Party
We're so busy at work lately maybe we can have the mapping party for IGaCoS later when most of the mappers are free. Best, murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 1/12/2010 2:34:54 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Gensan Google Mapping Party Hi guys, especially the OSMers in Davao, There apparently was a Google Mapping Party in Gensan last December 29: http://raincindyblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/gensan-google-mapping-party.h tml In light of this, when will the IGaCoS (Samal) Mapping Party be? We can't let Google have all the fun! :-P span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?
Guys, I'm really sorry I cannot join the mapping party tomorrow. I am just informed this afternoon that my professional org (IECEP-Davao) will be going to Tagaytay early tomorrow morning. I brought with me 2 gps units I will just make my owm mapping there. Keep on mapping! My appologies guys. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 12/10/2009 6:59:02 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party? See you guys on Saturday. I will start printing the walking-papers maps in b/w. http://walking-papers.org/print.php?id=wg2r8ncp If you have request for print, just send me a message with the walking-papers url. On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 11:33 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: OK added in the events section: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines#Events On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Starbucks in Araneta Coliseum would be good. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:36 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Any place in Araneta/Gateway where we can meet in the morning? I'm not familiar in the area. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:52 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Just a reminder, we will have a micro-mapping meetup on Saturday December 12, 2009. This event coincides with OSM's Christmas Party. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Christmas_Party_2009 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:17 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Let's mark this date! December 12, 2009 http://osm.org/go/4zhScqcE Mapping goal: map as much POI as we can within the Araneta Complex and adjacent areas. I can print some walkingpapers (black and white) of the area. Schedule: 8:00 - 3:00 - meet and somewhere in Gateway and then do mapping 3:00 - onwards - meet in a pub/cafe to share stories and plans for next year. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: December 12, 2009 maning murlwe neil nacario eugene (seav) [insert your name here] On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:53 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: December 12, 2009 maning murlwe neil nacario [insert your name here] On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: I'm in Manila on Dec 9-12. My return fight will be on Dec 12 9pm. Maybe I can join the mapping party on that date. -Original Message- From: Nacario Neil [nbnaca...@yahoo.com] Sent: 11/19/2009 12:11:12 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party? OK with December 5, 12 or 19 - Original Message From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 12:01:09 PM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party? Sounds good to me. The Saturdays of December are 5, 12 and 19 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Here's an idea: OSM-PH Christmas-Mapping Party When: a Saturday in early December (let's pick the one where most people are available) Where: Cubao-Project 4 area (the area bounded by EDSA, Aurora, Katipunan and Serrano: http://osm.org/go/4zhSbbzg-- ) What: Walking-Papers-type mapping (no GPS required) then a light dinner (at Gateway?), like the one that happened back in March Who: OSM contributors (no need to target newbies for now, but they are welcome of course) We don't have to go all out. Just a simple activity with fellow OSM contributors. :-) What do you guys think? On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:30 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Retrying this appeal. Anybody interested for a mapping party before 2009 ends? Or an OSM-PH mini conf? Or both? On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, It's been 4 months since the Tagaytay Mapping Party, so I think === message truncated === span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] more accurate open-source gps hardware
@maning, I already created prototypes similar to that. Maning I stand corrected. Not the RTK. If someone (I'm thinking of you guys at neuraltech) can do a similar prototype, I can arrange a hookup to a GPS base station. We can provide the GPS interface. Best, murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 11/16/2009 9:35:04 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] more accurate open-source gps hardware Talaga? RTK GPS have you tested it hooked to a GPS Base Station? What is the accuracy? On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: @maning, I already created prototypes similar to that. Do you need a GPS that can be hooked to your pc via USB/Serial port? We can design something for you. Best, murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 11/15/2009 8:15:44 PM To: gtu...@gmail.com;talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] more accurate open-source gps hardware If someone (I'm thinking of you guys at neuraltech) can do a similar prototype, I can arrange a hookup to a GPS base station. On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 5:23 PM, George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com wrote: very interesting, thanks for the link maning. btw murlwe is in manila. On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:12 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: @ murlwe, something you may want to tinker with :) -- Forwarded message -- From: Alex S. m...@swavely.com Date: Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 6:47 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] more accurate open-source gps hardware To: t...@openstreetmap.org http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/11/diy_real_time_kinematic_gps.ht ml ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph . ___ Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage - POP3 - Calendar - SMS - Translator - Much More! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM and mapping professionals
Kids prepare to be amazed! Well, I am - I am waiting for the mapping professionals to join the discussions here. Eugene, I agree he doesn't know how OSM actually works. It works for us but the guy find it hard to fit OSM in his craft. The level of accuracy he wanted is not really practical for OSM. If we can have data as accurate as what he is wanted then why not add it to OSM. Best, murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 11/9/2009 8:48:58 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OSM and mapping professionals Hi guys, In case you weren't aware, there was a very lively discussion over at the Mapping Mindanao blog where a mapping professional suggested that local OSM mappers invite people like him to talk about mapping knowledge and how mapping amateurs (i.e. OSMers) need to be aware about basic mapping fundamentals. http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/07/davao-mapping-party-post-party -report.html I'll just leave you guys to read the 42-comments-long thread there. Please don't reply anymore there because it was decided that the discussion be moved here (use this e-mail!). Up to now, I'm still trying to ascertain where exactly he is coming from since I don't think he understands how OSM has made mapping into a successful crowd-sourced project. As far as I understand, the central point boils down to a matter of accuracy in georeferencing. He seems to imply that OSM data is not useful in his industry since it isn't properly collected (being primarily collected using consumer-grade GPS devices). Cheers, Eugene / seav span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?
We are not sure if we can conduct a mapping party here in Davao on the Oct 17 simultaneous to Metro Manila since most of the mappers here are from the academe and October 17 is the last day of the exam week for most schools we cannot do some preparations because we are preparing for the exams. Best murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 9/26/2009 11:11:40 AM To: ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party? So the best is October 17 Will attend seav ianlopez maning neilnacario (san ka? davao or metro manila) Several suggestions for place Metro Manila Somewhere CAMANAVA Ortigas Home Depot and Metro Walk. McKinley Hills in Taguig (near Bonifacio Global City). Mandaluyong around Shaw Blvd. Carlos Celdran tour, two cemeteries within Metro Manila roads under construction We need to identify a mapping area now. Those not selected can the next place for a party. Davao Samal Island Others a clean-up party - for people willing to join the event but can't do actual field mapping GPS inventory for those who can't join, are you willing to lend your mapping rig (gps, laptop, etc)? If date and venue are fixed, let's start announcing and look for sponsors. On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:31 PM, ian lopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm not available on October 10 (since I have a commitment on that date), 24 and 25 (another commitment). Suggestions for mapping: We could join a Carlos Celdran tour, or map one or two cemeteries within Metro Manila that are known for the sites where some notable people are/were buried. Just to go a bit closer to the edge, some of us could map some roads under construction. Especially those that could help decongest Metro Manila. The pro side of it is that this could enhance our coverage and beat other online and dead tree maps in terms of coverage for the said road. The con side of it is that we might end up trespassing, and possibly put some of our lives at risk. --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Nacario Neil nbnaca...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Nacario Neil nbnaca...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party? To: OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 9:25 PM I also prefer saturdays. From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:56:20 PM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party? I'm good with Oct 10, 17 and 24. I prefer Saturdays. :-) On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:33 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: October weekends 4 11 18 25 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?
Yup, we did seminars/workshops because only few people knew OSM in Davao and some who are aware of it don't know how to edit the map. Maybe in Manila's case, you don't need seminars/workshops because you have many experienced contributor in your area. Maybe a pre-mapping party meeting will do to organize the teams. And in our case most of the participants who attended the seminars did not attend the mapping party and those who attended the workshop all joined the mapping party. Best, murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 9/18/2009 1:28:15 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party? On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Some things that worked for Davao: 2. A separate tutorial session on how to map, before the event. Was the separate tutorial session effective? My concern about this is that if maximum participation is wanted, then having people commit to attending on two separate days might diminish the participation rate. At best, those who attended the tutorial but not the actual mapping can contribute on their own, while those who failed to attend the tutorial but showed up on the mapping party day would be needing a crash course on OSM. murlwe? Ideally, the tutorial session should prep the participants. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?
It's a good idea! We could be the first to do a simultaneous mapping party. We are planning to map Samal Island as to when, we just don't know yet. Bdw, I will have a talk on Sept. 19 about OSM for the Software Freedom Day at the University of the Immaculate Conception in Davao City. I will try to open to them the possibility of having a simultaneous mapping party in Manila and Davao. Best, murlwe -Original Message- From: ian lopez [ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com] Sent: 9/17/2009 8:36:50 PM To: emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party? We could try a simultaneous mapping party in Manila and in Davao (and possibly in some place within the Philippines) sometime between November of this year and February of next year. Just a question: Was there an event that sounds like a simultaneous mapping party in multiple locations (possibly in the same area) in the same day/week? BTW, there are other spots with cloud cover and/or old data in Yahoo's Satellite Images: * Teachers Village, some areas in North East Triangle and Piñahan (since the images for the SM North EDSA-Trinoma-Eton Centris areas are out of date since possibly the early to middle part of the 2000's), a spot somewhere in the PhilAm-West Triangle-Del Monte area, Roxas District, Barangay Santol, some areas near New Manila, and some areas in the UP Campus-New Era-Culiat area in Quezon City * Some areas in Sampaloc and Santa Mesa, BASECO in Manila * Southern and central San Juan City (though most of the roads are already laid out, I believe that we might have missed some streets) * The northern part of Ortigas Center (Barangay San Antonio) in Pasig City * (possibly) the Filinvest Corporate City/Filincity area in Muntinlupa City To be honest, I just hope that at least 12 or so experienced contributors will join the said mapping party, and share their experiences with each other (and possibly with potential contributors). --- On Thu, 9/17/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party? To: George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com Cc: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 2:39 PM venue for: 1. pre-mapping party lecture and demostration - need pc's or at least a good internet connectivity 2. mapping party proper - good beer :) any other ideas? On 9/17/09, George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com wrote: @maning: the venue can also be the sponsor para isa na lang, and if you can have media converage mas ok :) On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: When we have a date and place, is it OK if I try sending some sponsor request to people? What specific things do we need for the mapping party (food, fuel, venue)? On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: so I think it's time we do another one and I suggest that this time we do it in Metro Manila to get more participants. (And try to better the event management skills of the Davao pips when they did their Davao Mapping Party. ;-) Some things that worked for Davao: 1. Enough time and announcement before the event. 2. A separate tutorial session on how to map, before the event. 3. Sponsors, banners, etc. While Metro Manila is covered by Yahoo! imagery, there are plenty of places where a virgin GPS survey is possible. Here are some places I can think of: 1. Ortigas Home Depot and Metro Walk. The Yahoo! imagery here is outdated so this is a good spot to survey. The problem is that this spot is too small. But we could fill in the time with presentations if we were to target newbies. 2. McKinley Hills in Taguig (near Bonifacio Global City).. Yahoo! imagery is outdated too. Same concerns as above. 3. Mandaluyong around Shaw Blvd. This area is covered by clouds in Yahoo! so GPS surveying is definitely needed. 4. Combine all of the above as separate slices if the number of participants is high. Any other suggestions? span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] http://roadguide.ph/forums/showthread.php?t=937
We need to do some repairing jobs now. Remove those contribution copied from roadguide.ph. Any other way to mend this error? murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 8/17/2009 9:04:20 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] http://roadguide.ph/forums/showthread.php?t=937 Stumbled into this one today: http://roadguide.ph/forums/showthread.php?t=937 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: Using OSm data for Flicker Map in Metro Manila, Philippines (was Fwd: [OSM-talk] Results from the first VietnameseMapping Party last 18th July)
This is soo nice! murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 8/5/2009 9:13:06 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: Using OSm data for Flicker Map in Metro Manila,Philippines (was Fwd: [OSM-talk] Results from the first VietnameseMapping Party last 18th July) -- Forwarded message -- From: Aaron Straup Cope aa...@yahoo-inc.com Date: Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:18 AM Subject: Re: Using OSm data for Flicker Map in Metro Manila, Philippines (was Fwd: [OSM-talk] Results from the first Vietnamese Mapping Party last 18th July) To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com It lives! http://www.flickr.com/map?fLat=14.5884fLon=121.0105zl=6 http://www.flickr.com/map?fLat=7.0799fLon=125.6127zl=5 Cheers, On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:32 AM, maning sambale wrote: Alright then. Thanks again! This will be a boost both to OSM and flickr map in the Philippines On 7/29/09, Aaron Straup Cope aa...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: I'm pulling the tiles down now. I am away until next week so that, realistically, means all the remaining tiny details won't happen until then. Cheers, On Jul 28, 2009, at 6:55 PM, maning sambale wrote: Aaron, Just to follow-up what you mean by next week 1. it will be in flickr map by next week 2. we will decide to grant your request by next week Of course, I prefer number 1. cheers, maning On 7/29/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hey thanks! Just shoot me a message if you've done it already. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Aaron Straup Copeaa...@yahoo-inc.com wrote: We'll shoot for next week, barring the usual bad craziness :D On Jul 28, 2009, at 2:16 AM, maning sambale wrote: Aaron, Hi. I received the news via OSM-talk that Flickr Map is using OSM data for Hanoi and Ho Chi Mihn (see message below). May we request you use OSM data for the Philippines? Currently our mapping is focused in Metro Manila the country's capital: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.585lon=121.04zoom=11layers=B000 FTF and Davao in Mindanao: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=7.0895lon=125.6243zoom=14layers=B0 0FTF The data in OSM is by far better than the existing road data in yahoo! Please consider using OSM, in many ways, this can also boost our campaign to expand OSM coverage in the coutnry if Flickr use the data. Thank you very much and we hope you entertain our request. cheers, maning -- Forwarded message -- From: Ivan Garcia capisc...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:40:07 +0200 Subject: [OSM-talk] Results from the first Vietnamese Mapping Party last 18th July To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org, talk...@openstreetmap.org, Sarah Manley sa...@cloudmade.com, Anousak Souphavanh anou...@gmail.com, Aaron Straup Cope aa...@yahoo-inc.com Hi everyone, We are really sorry for being late to send u the result of Mapping Party on last 18th July: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HanoiMappingParty2009 Around 15 people assisted to the conferences and to the party, with 5 GPS they divided themselves into 5 groups of 3 people each. On behalf of the party's organization, thank you very much for those who attended and recorded all the data during 2 hours in the hot weather as well as the pollution of Ha Noi's roads. You can check out some pictures about our activity on that day here: http://tinyurl.com/OSMparty1 http://tinyurl.com/OSMparty2 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=92438id=536733262l=bf006cf891 Also here you'll find videos of the presentations: http://hanoi.centre-linux.org/article.php3?id_article=108 Aaron Straut from Flickr helped us after the StateOfTheMap2009 (probably after attending to *The State of Vietnamhttp://www.slideshare.net/khanhlnq/state-of- vietnampresentation) and he added in FLICKR * Vietnam http://www.flickr.com/places/vietnam/, the OSM tiles for Ha Noihttp://www.flickr.com/map?place_id=L.CstOiYA5_7VNSt and Ho Chi Minh City http://www.flickr.com/map?place_id=3wLzgz6YA5ns4Pn0 We are now thinking to make another Mapping Party this time in Ho Chi Minh City, and attract more people, and learn from our mistakes, experience, etc. After the meeting, the number of people update information on OSM has increased rapidly. There are more streets and POI points (useful spots: restaurants, hotels, hospitals,...) have updated. You can check out the results of your own contribution here: http://osm.org/go/4dterHJI- There is one more interesting thing, one third of the participants on that day were female ;) Right now, we still have a bit of the budget and GPS. If anyone has some spare time and loves mapping, please contact us here: Le Vie't Thanh Email: lethanh...@gmail.com Vietnamese Cell: 0984.468.147 Or you can participate in the Vietnamese OSM community (operating by mailing list) at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-vi to get helped as
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possiblelocalchapter
Andre, I had second thoughts. How much would each incorporators shell out? murlwe -Original Message- From: Andre Marcelo-Tanner [an...@enthropia.com] Sent: 7/27/2009 10:33:56 PM To: sea...@gmail.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possiblelocalchapter ok thats 5 then, is Murlwe in Davao atm? ok i have to look into the logistics of having incorporators abroad and not all in the same place. Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Ronny volunteered to be one of the incorporators before: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.html On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote: no responses yet, need 1 more, 4 cannot make a company, need 5 span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
Ohh, but I added a flight route from Davao to Manila. Check the data, its there but I don't know why it did not appear. So, Technically Davao is connected to Manila by plane. I will try to add ferry route to Manila. Its a very long route. murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 7/21/2009 12:10:35 PM To: totor_...@yahoo.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global Hi guys, I asked the tool's maintainer how the floating island error is determined. Here's his answer: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-July/038800.html I've reprinted it here below for convenience: The motto of this check is you can go everywhere from everywhere. There is a set of starting points (highways in the center of big cities that are well connected to many other streets) I picked randomly. The check finds ways that are connected to these ways and thus finds a (bigger) set of ways. This procedure is repeated until no more ways are found. Any way that was not found is a floating island. There are 30 starting points all over the world, one of them in Manila. Please note that the check will follow any highway and ferries are included, so it _should_ find islands as long as there's a ferry connected to a highway on the island. So it seems that everything not connected to the main streets of Metro Manila is considered as a floating island. Mindoro is covered since there is a ferry route from Batangas to Puerto Galera. I think if we can at least sketch out the Ro-Ro routes, we can cover most of the major island. I will also suggest adding Cebu and Davao cities as seeds to minimize problems. However, this will not cover all the islands (there are about 2,000 inhabited islands out of 7,100+ and not all of them have regular ferry routes [like Batanes (?) which is served by flights]) so this means that we cannot rely on keep right to point out all floating island errors. I think a customized QA tool for the Philippines would be needed. I hope this helps! In the meantime, just uncheck this error and ignore it until we can have a backbone connection for the Philippines and more seeds. Eugene / seav On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw some blue arrows indicating 2 roads are close, but not conneected. In Cebu this is the case near Car-Car in the south, and also in the north of Cebu Island. Maybe this could be the reason for the island warning on other intersections (Not connected to the world, because of these gaps)? I'll try to connect them tomorrow. --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global To: Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com Cc: Openstreetmap.ph.mailing.list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 2:53 PM Ack! I've done a quick look around and it seems that the general Luzon road network is the only one not riddled with these errors! On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Totor, George also replied asking what these floating island errors mean. As far as I understand it, it means that there is a small network of navigable ways that is not connected to the rest of the network. It does detect islands in Metro Manila but I'm quite surprised to find that it seems to think that the Cebu road network is one big error! Maybe a few ferry routes would fix it? I'll ask the creator of keep right. I don't think he anticipated archipelagos. Hehehe. Eugene / seav On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: Great, but,ehr, could it be that Cebu is just one big floating island ??? http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=14lat=10.35578; lon=123.92528layers=B0Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100 =1ch110=1ch120=1ch130=1ch150=1ch160=1ch170=1ch180=1ch191=1ch192 =1ch193=1ch194=1ch201=1ch202=1ch203=1ch204=1ch210=1ch220=1show_ ign=1show_tmpign=1 Whats wrong with the orange arrows? The nodes of the intersections look ok to me... --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 4:21 PM Hi guys, The keepright! QA tool for OSM just went almost global. Previously this tool was only enabled for Europe. This tool highlights spatial errors (such as overlapping unconnected ways that have no layer tags to separate them), and tagging errors (such as POIs without a name tag). Here's a URL centered at the Makati CBD: http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=15lat=14.55284; lon=121.02068layers=B0Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100
Re: [talk-ph] finally met murlwe last friday and some thoughts wediscussed
I think Jeff is using JOSM to edit OSM maps and its a good idea for beginners to have the data right there when they need it other mappers just spruce up things later. That's what we do anyway. Best, murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 7/13/2009 12:20:02 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] finally met murlwe last friday and some thoughts wediscussed one more to add. Palawan import - murlwe proposes we import the data as way/node without tags (probably just a note=FIXME) and then allow Palawan mappers to correct position and add tags base on GPS and local knowledge. On 7/13/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: As the subject says, I met murlwe last Friday, he returned one of the gpstogo units (which will be lent to ronny by august). We had a very interesting conversation I would like to share to the group. * Expanding the gpstogo program - gps loggers (for example navman) are now very cheap. You can get a blue-tooth enabled unit for less than 2K PHP. Most phones have a bluetooth. Won't get into the details but I think you get the idea. Plutocrat has this rig: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/plutocrat-osm-ph-mapper/ If we can raise some cash let's say 20K PHP, we can buy 20 data loggers and lend them to more mappers. Jim (from one of his mails) suggested to make it a competition. If the mapper can gather X number of traces with the loaned unit, the mapper can own the gps. Now the question is, how can we raise the funds? * OSM-PH mini-conference - murlwe and the rest of the Davao mappers is very much interested in this. Their ideacamp-davao spurred a lot of interest for OSM down south. I think the ideacamp format (similar to unconference/bar-camp event) can be adopted here. He suggested we need about 6 months lead time to get this rolling. It doesn't have to be in Manila, btw. If anyone can sponsor the event in any place I think everyone is OK with that. * Neuraltech - is developing really cool things around OSM data (address geocoding, routing, etc.) which is of particular interest to some of you. I'll leave it to murlwe and smackcode to share them to us. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Davao Mapping Party report
We're on the process of incorporating the PIOs into OSM. It a success next stop is Island Garden City of Samal (Samal Island) the resort island of Davao del Norte. Well, it is just a plan :) murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 7/6/2009 7:50:20 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Davao Mapping Party report Hi guys, The Davao people have posted a report of their mapping party last Saturday: http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/07/davao-mapping-party-post-party -report.html Cheers! Eugene / seav -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] RFC: importing protected areas/ nationalparksboundaries
Thanks, I have to remove my old Mt. Apo National Park data. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 7/2/2009 9:23:29 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: importing protected areas/ nationalparksboundaries It's done! http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1705598 @ noel, Mount Kanlaon is included http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/37121643 @ edwaypointsdotph, Lake Balinsasayao is also included http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/37121637 @ murlwe, Moutn Apo is included http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/37121639 as well as a multiploygon relation to exclude PNOC http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/165773 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:07 AM, maning sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Last call for any comments on the planned national park/protected area boundaries. Anyone? On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:48 PM, maning sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Fineprint: Source: PAWB-DENR, CI Philippines Restriction: No restriction of use Date: 12/08/00 Citation: Data Source: Participants of the Philippine Biodiversity Conservation Priority-Setting Workshop, December 4 - 8, 2000 Scale: 1:7,500,000 On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Marloue Pidormur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: Maning, Where did you get this data I just want to know the sections of the Mt. Apo National Park. Based on RA 9237 Mt. Apo National Park have 3 section that includes the north-west and south-east buffer zones. Based on the shape file, it is already merged. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 6/14/2009 3:27:21 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: importing protected areas/ national parksboundaries Hi, Here is the protected area shapefile I intend to upload in OSM. I removed some PAs whom I think has improper polygon boundaries. Please review if you think this is suitable for OSM import. Download link: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/file/view/protected_areas_edited.zip On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, maning sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Is it Mount Kanlaon National Park included? If we include those national park it would be much interesting for those who who use OSM for biodiversity conservation. Not sure, but I think it is. Right, in some areas there are no road data simply because the are not much road in the first place. It would be good for other data users (like conservationist) to be able to use the data for their purpose. Some important features I dream of adding: 1. rivers 2. landcover (different from landuse) 3. coral reefs This can be mapped using landsat by the way. thanks. noel On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:33 AM, maning sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Not good enough: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3368/3595795759_20a6a76358_o.png It seems small protected areas were marked as large squares just to appear on the 1:7M scale map. Still other boundaries are good. Need to edit first, before import. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:36 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Should we add them? Why not? OK, I will send a sample file for everyone to look at before adding them. I'm thinking of including additional tag, for example: name=Northern Sierra Madre Natural Park boundary=national_park NIPAS:category=natural park # this link for ref: http://sunsite.nus.edu.sg/apcel/dbase/filipino/primary/phanip.html source=PBCPP, 2002 # this is the actual source of publication Is this OK, or any better tag for this? I think these are the same shapefiles that Microsoft Encarta used in its Atlas component and the same ones imported into Google Maps/Map Maker. For instance look at the following Google Maps links: Biak-na-Bato National Park: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8ll=15.11853,121.087189spn=0.082363 ,0.175781z=13 We have way better boundary of Biak na Bato: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=15.1417lon=121.099zoom=13layer s=B000FTF (I know because I stayed there for a few years) On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 5:33 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I found this in my gis database: 123pas_ini_unproc.shp Unproclaimed protected areas as initial components vis-a-vis integrated terrestrial and inland water priority areas. 2pas_unproc_addl.shp Unproclaimed Protected areas as additional components vis-a-vis integrated terrestrial and inland water priority areas. 36pa_iniunproc_ver.shp Unproclaimed protected areas with boundaries for verification as initial components vis-a-vis integrated terrestrial and inland water priority areas. 83pas_proc.shp Proclaimed protected areas vis-a-vis integrated terrestrial and inland water priority areas. Fineprint: Source: PAWB-DENR, CI Philippines Restriction: No restriction of use Date: 12/08/00 Citation: Data
Re: [talk-ph] PIA article: Online mappers to launch Davao mappingparty
Yeah! Ang bilis mo maghanap ng info. There are 13 - 15 joined the workshop some were not there for some reason. The Mapping Party will be on July 4 and is composed of 5 teams. We already sliced the cake for the mapping party and is subject to change depending on the need of Davao City Tourism Office. I am encouraging my student to join the mapping party. Best murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 6/22/2009 11:38:21 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] PIA article: Online mappers to launch Davao mappingparty Hi guys, Check this article from the Philippine Information Agency: http://www.pia.gov.ph/?m=12fi=p090618.htmno=14 Way to go Davao mappers! So, how was the workshop last Saturday? Eugene / seav span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] importing Palawan roads
We can use those GPS referenced roads as a basis for the accuracy of the data. murlwe -Original Message- From: Totor Osm [totor_...@yahoo.com] Sent: 6/17/2009 3:04:13 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] importing Palawan roads Hi, FYI, I edited the road from Puerto to Elnido based on GPS traces I made last april. That might save some gasoline ;-D http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Totor/traces/355844 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Totor/traces/355842 Regards, Totor --- On Tue, 6/16/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: RFC: importing Palawan roads To: Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 8:07 AM May Garmin GPS ba yung Palwan rider? I can prepare a garmin map for him to verify. (That's a lot fuel, btw.) On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Marloue Pidormur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: @maning: What is you suggestion? @George: I already downloaded the shape file for Palawan roads. Can you send or give the URL to our Palawan guy for verification? I will email you off-list. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 6/14/2009 5:43:58 PM To: mur...@mail2engineer.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: RFC: importing Palawan roads D? :) On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Marloue Pidormur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: D) I have another suggestion. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- . ___ Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage POP3 Calendar SMS Translator Much More! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: RFC: importing Palawan roads
Hi guys we already contacted somebody from Palawan to verify your data. He is a motorcycle enthusiast they roam around parts of Palawan. We invited him to join the mailing list to communicate with you directly. He is willing to help us with the Palawan mapping. murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 6/13/2009 2:36:13 PM To: emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: RFC: importing Palawan roads Maybe the Palawan data as a whole is not ok, but looking at the image you supplied for Puerto Princesa, maybe that city's downtown data is still good enough after shifting it to more or less match the existing OSM data. While some parts will not be GPS accurate, the data is still pretty much useful for paper-map style of navigation. Then when somebody can do the actual surveying, he/she need only adjust the location of nodes. On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 3:13 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: With more eyeballs all bugs are seen (Linus Torvalds) Doing a quick check on proportions and shapes of different tracks from different portion of the map, I think the data supplied is trash. :-( As per Rally's assessment, I am holding-off to importing this data. Unless, others can make sense of how we can use this for OSM. I can provide a download link to anyone who wants to play around with it. If you think it's useable for OSM, we can discuss this here. Personally, nanghinayang lang ako, if this is good data (or at least useful) a good chunk of roads will be added to OSM. But as Rally said, So, we'll surely get in trouble or lose good reputation for uploading bad data, hehe I'd rather accept someone saying we have wrong data because of an honest newbie experimenting around than importing data we know having big problems. Thanks Rally for doing the assessment. Any other comments? span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] RFC: importing protected areas/ national parksboundaries
Maning, Where did you get this data I just want to know the sections of the Mt. Apo National Park. Based on RA 9237 Mt. Apo National Park have 3 section that includes the north-west and south-east buffer zones. Based on the shape file, it is already merged. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 6/14/2009 3:27:21 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: importing protected areas/ national parksboundaries Hi, Here is the protected area shapefile I intend to upload in OSM. I removed some PAs whom I think has improper polygon boundaries. Please review if you think this is suitable for OSM import. Download link: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/file/view/protected_areas_edited.zip On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:20 PM, maning sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Is it Mount Kanlaon National Park included? If we include those national park it would be much interesting for those who who use OSM for biodiversity conservation. Not sure, but I think it is. Right, in some areas there are no road data simply because the are not much road in the first place. It would be good for other data users (like conservationist) to be able to use the data for their purpose. Some important features I dream of adding: 1. rivers 2. landcover (different from landuse) 3. coral reefs This can be mapped using landsat by the way. thanks. noel On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:33 AM, maning sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Not good enough: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3368/3595795759_20a6a76358_o.png It seems small protected areas were marked as large squares just to appear on the 1:7M scale map. Still other boundaries are good. Need to edit first, before import. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:36 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Should we add them? Why not? OK, I will send a sample file for everyone to look at before adding them. I'm thinking of including additional tag, for example: name=Northern Sierra Madre Natural Park boundary=national_park NIPAS:category=natural park # this link for ref: http://sunsite.nus.edu.sg/apcel/dbase/filipino/primary/phanip.html source=PBCPP, 2002 # this is the actual source of publication Is this OK, or any better tag for this? I think these are the same shapefiles that Microsoft Encarta used in its Atlas component and the same ones imported into Google Maps/Map Maker. For instance look at the following Google Maps links: Biak-na-Bato National Park: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8ll=15.11853,121.087189spn=0.082363,0.1 75781z=13 We have way better boundary of Biak na Bato: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=15.1417lon=121.099zoom=13layers=B0 00FTF (I know because I stayed there for a few years) On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 5:33 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I found this in my gis database: 123pas_ini_unproc.shp Unproclaimed protected areas as initial components vis-a-vis integrated terrestrial and inland water priority areas. 2pas_unproc_addl.shp Unproclaimed Protected areas as additional components vis-a-vis integrated terrestrial and inland water priority areas. 36pa_iniunproc_ver.shp Unproclaimed protected areas with boundaries for verification as initial components vis-a-vis integrated terrestrial and inland water priority areas. 83pas_proc.shp Proclaimed protected areas vis-a-vis integrated terrestrial and inland water priority areas. Fineprint: Source: PAWB-DENR, CI Philippines Restriction: No restriction of use Date: 12/08/00 Citation: Data Source: Participants of the Philippine Biodiversity Conservation Priority-Setting Workshop, December 4 - 8, 2000 Scale: 1:7,500,000 Should we add them? FYI, we have 1 national park boundary added already: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=15.126lon=121.124zoom=11layers=B00 0FTF -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning
Re: [talk-ph] Davao City Tourism Office
Actually the inputs from you guys was very helpful. Because of that we are inspired to do our mapping party down south. hehe Here's our grand plan http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/ We update the OSM contributors as well as the people helping us here. murlwe -Original Message- From: Andre Marcelo-Tanner [an...@enthropia.com] Sent: 6/12/2009 9:47:17 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Davao City Tourism Office congrats! let us know if there's anything we can do to assist. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company
For data donations, do you have any written (by paper of email) consent from the donor? If we have one, why not add the data to OSM. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 6/9/2009 4:14:23 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company Hi, I just had a phone discussion from a delivey/forwarding company. They own several delivery trucks equipped with GPS. They are willing to donate GPS traces provided we give them GPS maps (which I do anyway). Focus areas includes Visayas. Do you think this is a worthwhile data source? Of course we don't expect drivers to do the editing. Any idea on how we should proceed? -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] suggest a new mapping party event
Nice one! LoL Maning, how did you make the time lapse video of the Tagaytay mapping party? murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 6/8/2009 12:50:57 PM To: eppgar...@gmail.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] suggest a new mapping party event ed, I'm a geo-geek (and free geodata is my p0rn), and to take the analogy even further, LANDSAT is like the old prostitute you always come back to because she's reliable and cheap. :) cheers, maning On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Ed Garciaeppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Maning, Wow, you are so well-oriented in how and where to look for data and images! Let's have that tutorial-over-beer, (or is that beer-over-tutorial) session na nga! I want to learn how these all fit into JOSM editing. thanks! On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 9:57 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Ed, I think you're out of luck at the moment. :( On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Ed Garciaeppgar...@gmail.com wrote: there is another lake in oriental negros (balinsasayao) that I would like to trace kasi The only image I got for this area looks cloudy: http://edcsns17.cr.usgs.gov/browse/etm/114/53/2009/LE71140532009050EDC0 0.jpg http://edcsns17.cr.usgs.gov/browse/etm/114/54/2009/LE71140542009050EDC0 0.jpg Both images were taken February 2009. I'll keep you posted when new images arrive (usually after 26 day, depending on the cloudcover) -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] suggest a new mapping party event
Davao maybe too costly for you guys but if anyone from north could come down south it would be great. We're brewing a mapping party in the end of June or 1st week of July. As of now we have three teams to map Toril, Mintal and Buhangin areas. George (smackcode) is wondering if we could borrow one GPStogo just for a week for the mapping party in Davao. And our next plan is to map the entire Samal Island. mapping... nakaka-adik. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 6/4/2009 12:25:31 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] suggest a new mapping party event Where to next? Let's make a a long list of mapping bounty here. If we can craft this list, we can start rough planning. Davao c/o murlwe and smackcode Place: - Somewhere in Metro Manila with very minimal coverage Date: - next month July -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] change road type based on road condition
Wait till they visit Surigao del Sur's costal highways its; potholes=many smoothness=horrible locals=nasty tracktype=grade1 From Lianga all the way to Claver. The road still qualify as primary road because of the traffic condition not the road condition. The road is not under construction its just a limestone national highway. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 6/5/2009 1:17:08 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] change road type based on road condition Hi, A mapper pointed me to this discussion re: removing a road network because of the bad road condition and is currently under repair http://www.roadguide.ph/forums/showpost.php?p=5911postcount=1 I don't think removing the segment is good, even though it's full of potholes, I believe it is still being used by locals. Any additional tag we can add? potholes=many smoothness=horrible locals=nasty :) -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM at ideacampdavao
In connection to this we just guested on a radio show of DXAB 1296 kHz (AM Station of ABS-CBN Davao) with Councilor Mabel Acosta. We promoted OSM its applications to the community, internet and IT as a whole. And we announced our plans for pre-mapping party workshop and the mapping party for Davao City. murlwe -Original Message- From: Andre Marcelo-Tanner [an...@enthropia.com] Sent: 5/31/2009 8:52:10 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OSM at ideacampdavao congrats on the talk and promoting OSM, I'm sure the whole Philippines could use more OSM :) Please post pics or video if you have any :) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] [OSM-talk] SOTM Scholarship Recipients Announced
ALL, if it is not possible, here's my list: Advanced OSM Cartography Bridging the Gap: Using OSM Data with GIS Tools Making Money with OpenStreetMap Bringing OSM to schools! Application Development Using OSM and third party APIs Go Philippines! murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 5/29/2009 10:15:53 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] [OSM-talk] SOTM Scholarship Recipients Announced and here's the schedule: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=r4WraCgENoOek3Vs4ft0y2goutput=h tml Any particular session you want Eugene to attend so he can share it to us? Here's my list: The Big License Panel Debate Advanced OSM Cartography OSM Directions Application for Visually Impaired Bridging the Gap: Using OSM Data with GIS Tools Making Money with OpenStreetMap Bringing OSM to schools! Application Development Using OSM and third party APIs Bulk importing techniques On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:42 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Check out #8 scholar! We did nominate two people. There will always be next time. -- Forwarded message -- From: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, May 29, 2009 at 4:19 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] SOTM Scholarship Recipients Announced To: t...@openstreetmap.org http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=496 Congratulations to the 15 scholarship recipients. We had 35 nominations, from 19 countries, so no easy choice. Thanks to all the nominations .. we hope you can all attend as well. Will be extremely great to have all these mappers together in Amsterdam! Abdel Hassan from Cairo, Egypt Anas Maraqa from Palestinian West Bank Anatolie Golovco from Moldova Arun Ganesh from Chennai, India Asif Rasul from Punjab, Pakistan Ciprian Talaba from Romania Claudomiro Nascimento Jr from Brazil Eugene Alvin Villar from Manila, Phillippines Freddy Rivera from Colombia Giorgi Gujabidze from Tbilisi, Georgia H.S. Rai from Punjab, India Jorge Luis BATISTA Echevarría from Havana, Cuba Julio Zambelli from Vina del Mar, Chile Khanh Le Ngoc Quoc from Vietnam ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] 1st OpenStreetMap Philippines Mapping Party Success!
Yup, we use the GT-31 GPS (other GPS unit will do as long as it sends raw NMEA data). You can use two laptop and 1 GPS unit the laptop where the GPS is connected can share the GPS data to the other laptop using ad-hoc connection (not road tested yet). You will now have a GPS server for the other laptop (all running on Ubuntu 9.04) using the tangoGPS. Nice. Here's the video, its a bit shaky http://www.flickr.com/photos/37115...@n06/3553501790/ Yes we did the Rally style mapping its effective and efficient. The dry run seems good next the mapping party. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 5/22/2009 11:12:37 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] 1st OpenStreetMap Philippines Mapping Party Success! Did I get you right? TangoGPS on a laptop hooked to the GT-31 (gpstogo unit)? From the screenshot it shows the mapnik layer. Nice! Mught be what ronny is looking for. May I suggest you add what Rally does by encoding which side of the street the POI is located (left or right based on the driving direction). On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: We just had a dry run for our plans here for a mapping party (selos talaga kami). We use tangoGPS (http://www.flickr.com/photos/37115...@n06/3551186301/) for mapping and POI insertion interfacing GPStogo. George (smackcode) will be releasing an application specifically for OSM mapping. And George will have another talk for OSM applications (http://www.ideacampdavao.com/). murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 5/21/2009 11:07:52 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] 1st OpenStreetMap Philippines Mapping Party Success! Here's my post-party blog report http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/post-party-report-tagaytay-o sm-ph-mapping/ And since the party was so last week, where do we go next? On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Napansin ninyo ba, ambilis mag-update ng Mapnik layer! Talo pa ang OSMARender (t...@h). I just entered some roads awhile ago and it's now rendered in OSM! On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice work Eugene! Bow ako. Yes, I believe there are no other maps out there yet that has such detail of Picnic Grove. Was nice to meet you in person. ed On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the initial mapping for Tagaytay Picnic Grove: http://openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1226711 I don't think there's any other online map out there (and maybe even a paper-based map) that shows such details. :-) On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: I had fun guys! And it was really nice finally meeting the faces behind the edits. Hehehe. I can't count the number of times I did the mane obra during the mapping. :-P On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote: Hi all, I want to congratulate everyone on a job well done today as we went around Tagaytay and mapped the place out. It was a pleasure meeting all of you: Maning, Eugene, Ian, Rally, Neil, Ed, and the photographer guy from the Inquirer whose name I forgot (sorry!) and the family members who were there. It was fun, exciting, and also a great learning experience. This is only the beginning and I know we'll be able to do more events to bring OSM Philippines to a wider audience and map more of the Philippines than anyone else could have imagined. Best Regards, Andre P.S. Pa post ng pics sa Facebook or somewhere :) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage - POP3 - Calendar - SMS - Translator
Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8
A, If you have any idea who/what/where these SMBs are (the stupid one) by all means you can remove them but eventually someone will put them back in the map. This is the beauty of a wiki map. murlwe -Original Message- From: Ahmed Farooq [ah...@enthropia.com] Sent: 5/11/2009 5:12:47 AM To: r...@develo.ltd.uk;talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8 You vastly underestimate the stupidity of some SMB operators. Trust me, it has been my day job for the last five years :-) -A From: talk-ph-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-ph-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 4:59 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8 I seriously don't think well get any problems with businesses suing us for not keeping the information updated. The obvious difference to a maps printed on dead trees is that they can just create an account and edit the information themselves if they're not happy with it. Unless they want to be ridiculed in court, I don't think many would be stupid enough to go that route... Yes, I agree that data can get outdated quickly, but personally I prefer slightly outdated data to no data at all. Besides if it gets so outdated that it is annoying, someone are bound to be annoyed enough to go and updated it - that's the beauty of it, isn't it? Ronny. Ahmed Farooq wrote: Oh I'm not one bit concerned about advertising etc - having worked in the local business space for 5+ years, I know how hard it is keeping the data upto date, and decaying data is bad. Wikipedia has entries for famous fast food joints - because of the interest in their story and so forth. Think of a map you would buy if you are a tourist to the city - it would have landmarks (possibly commercial ones too), but it would not have any ol' common listing - it clutters up the map, and can cause headaches down the road (businesses threatening to sue because the name is wrong, threatening to sue because they didn't want to be listed, complaining about competitors, etc etc). Going from mapping to business listings can open up a whole can of forms - and if the community decides to do it anyway, I can understand that, but I am simply trying to voice concerns that will be run into. -A From: Eugene Alvin Villar [mailto:sea...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:59 PM To: Ahmed Farooq Cc: noel mondragon; talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8 Ahmed, there's nothing wrong with adding commercial POIs in a general-purpose map even if its significance is not on a national-level. === message truncated === span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] What level of POIs do we add? (was Click the City)
I agree! -Original Message- From: Jim Morgan [...@datalude.com] Sent: 5/7/2009 5:35:43 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] What level of POIs do we add? (was Click the City) OK, well as everyone has an opinion on this one ... :-) Eugene Alvin Villar wrote, On Wednesday, May 06, 2009 08:20 PM: It's tempting to mark out in OSM all of the Jollibee, McDonald's, and Starbucks branches in the Philippines but I'm wondering if this is wise. Do we mark out every retail store, every bank branch, every Western Union/FedEx/LBC outlet, and every company's office in OSM? My personal take is that we don't need to. I can think of at least two ways in which such information would be useful. If you're using Fast food outlets to navigate by then knowing the name is critical: turn left at the McDonalds. Fast food outlets are actually quite convenient to navigate by because they have BIG signs and instantly recognisable branding which everyone knows. So yes, I can see a use for names here. Another use would be if you were looking for an ATM in a certain area. Not all cards work with all banks, so its useful to know the brand of bank you're dealing with. So here again its useful to have the name of the bank. One big problem is multi-storey malls like SM Megamall that have hundreds of tenants. It'll be quite unwieldy to maintain and edit overlapping POIs in such a small land area. Definitely. Let people go inside and use the store directory for that. But again, if there is a store visible from the outside, which will help with visual navigation, then sure, why not put it in? Jim ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8
Noel, This is my opinion... It is feasible but not practical, the names of the establishments will be used as our points of interest (POI). My point is, those establishments is on the ground and should be mapped and identified. OSM will not become as you say it commercially-oriented instead, it will be very useful to have those POIs intact. For example, if you are looking for Mercury Drug because it is your preferred drugstore then if the scenario is all the names of these drugstores were removed, you will be guessing and hoping that the next drugstore is the one you preferred. Its really hard to use the map that way. In my case I downloaded the OSM tiles into my Palm (osm2palm) and I use it whenever I'm in Manila the establishment's names were very useful for me to identify my location in the map. murlwe -Original Message- From: noel mondragon [noel_pylo...@yahoo.com] Sent: 5/7/2009 8:23:11 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8 My suggestion is that we can POI like drugstores, fastfood but we will not put the name like McDonalds or Jollibee or Mercury Drugstore??or resort? Is it that feasible. It will make the OSM as commercially-oriented if we put commercial establishments with names Comments? thanks. -noel --- On Wed, 5/6/09, talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: From: talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org Subject: talk-ph Digest, Vol 10, Issue 8 To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 8:55 AM Send talk-ph mailing list submissions to talk-ph@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-ph-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of talk-ph digest... Today's Topics: 1. POIs Part 2 (Ahmed Farooq) 2. Re: What level of POIs do we add? (was Click the City) (Eugene Alvin Villar) 3. Re: What level of POIs do we add? (was Click the City) (Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:40:05 -0400 From: Ahmed Farooq ah...@enthropia.com Subject: [talk-ph] POIs Part 2 To: 'Eugene Alvin Villar' sea...@gmail.com, 'maning sambale' emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: 'OSM' talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: 01f601c9ce60$ee0643a0$ca12ca...@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi All, I have to add - have you seen the Boracay map? While it looks fantastic that it is all mapped out, naming each resort/business there has lead to a map that looks absolutely bloated and is unreadable at times. For example http://www.openstreetmap.org.ph/map/c/11.960549689657205/121.92536830902 1/17 / - Mango Ray Shenna's Resort - are those two places? One? Which building is covered by their name? Multiple buildings or just one? A POI should be a notable location that a tourist may be interested in - a statue, a building, even a public transit location. But specific businesses (be it fast food joints or specific resorts) only create clutter and a mess - which will only get worse as businesses are created and others go out of business. Having too much data (especially as part of the primary data set) is contrary to the spirit of an open user-maintained map. -A From: talk-ph-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-ph-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Eugene Alvin Villar Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:28 AM To: maning sambale Cc: OSM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] What level of POIs do we add? (was Click the City) On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:18 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Just my take, 1. If it's on the ground it should be mapped. This is a good guideline in general but of course a line has to be drawn somewhere (pun not intended). I don't think drawing the individual stripes of a pedestrian walkway is productive even if it *is* on the ground. A map is supposed to be a representation--not a facsimile of the real world. That's why we represent roads in OSM using center lines and not (at the moment) as areas. 2. If somebody bothered to map fishball vendors in Luneta, nobody's stopping him. Fishball vendors are probably not a good example for your point since they are too ephemeral to be mapped. But anyway, OSM is a community project and we work on consensus. While we do encourage people to map what they think are important, I don't think we should just let people map things like Location of Mark and Jenny's first kiss, right? 3 years ago (am I that old in OSM?), my only goal is to map major
Re: [talk-ph] gpstogo users
-Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 4/14/2009 5:04:49 PM To: emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: re: gpstogo users Hi, The gpstogo philippine program is now 3 months. As a requirement of the program, we need to submit a report about the use of the units. I am currently preparing the report to the OSM foundation. As a user of the gps units, can you please answer the following questions: How often do you use the GPS units? Every day for the first two weeks, every weekends thereafter. Was the units easy/difficult to use? Why? It is relatively easy to use. What area have been mapped using the units (please provide the OSM map permalink)? Mainly Davao City and other provinces outside Davao City http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=7.052lon=125.109zoom=10layers=B000FTF What improvements have been added in these areas as a result of using the units? More roads. Do you think we need more units for the OSm Philippine community? Yes, because there are more things to be done to map Davao City and Mindanao as a whole Can you suggest any area that units should deployed to expand OSM-PH coverage? General Santos City, Kidapawan City, Cagayan de Oro City, Panabo City, Tagum City, Surigao City, Cotabato City, Iligan City and Zamboanga City Other insights/suggestions for the gpstogo program. None so far Salamat! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Chartered Cities
I created a separate thread for this to give focus to the original topic. What I said is actually true, in March 1, 1937 (but Araw ng Dabaw is in March 16) Davao City is inaugurated by President Manuel L. Quezon as a chartered city by then Davao City is separated from Davao del Sur. Unlike Davao del Sur, Davao City doesn't have a Governor. Well, actually we are not insisting, in fact most of us does not know that Davao City is separate to any provinces it is already separate and that includes Zamboanga City and Puerto Princesa (correct me if I'm wrong). It is also correct that for statistical purposes DC is grouped under Davao del Sur. That is why the City Government announces before in tri-media not to fill in the Province part of any government forms. To separate the Davao City data from Davao del Sur. Here's some reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartered_city http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davao_City http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboanga_City http://www.nscb.gov.ph/ru11/davao_city/default.htm murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 4/30/2009 8:28:19 PM To: mur...@mail2engineer.com Cc: emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com;talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Revisiting the admin_level values forboundary=administrative Hi Marloue, Slightly off-topic question. Since you're from Davao City, are residents of the city adamant about insisting that Davao City is separate from Davao del Sur? *Some* people from Zamboanga City are positively vocal (and sometimes actually hostile!) whenever people say they are part of Zamboanga del Sur[1]. Many maps of the Philippines simplify the country's administrative situation by making ALL cities (except those in Metro Manila) be part of a province. The National Statistical Coordination Board actually groups Davao City under Davao del Sur[2], but only for statistical purposes.. Eugene / seav -- [1] http://www.zamboanga.com/html/terrorism_attack_on_zamboanga_city.htm [2] http://www.nscb.gov.ph/activestats/psgc/municipality.asp?muncode=112402 000regcode=11provcode=24 On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: I agree, it's the level in the hierarchy is confusing. In case of Davao City we have 3 districts that covers only Barangays (By the way, Davao City is not part of Davao del Sur as what others thought). In North Cotabato we have 4 districts with 18 municipalities. But classifying the different districts is doable. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 4/30/2009 2:09:00 PM To: sea...@gmail.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Revisiting the admin_level values forboundary=administrative Eugene and all, Are you proposing this scheme for admin_levels? (first row is Eugene's proposal as I understand it) 2 -- 2 - National Border (this is a worldwide convention, so there will be no 3 -- 4 - Regions 4 -- 6 - Provinces 5 -- Districts? 6 -- 8 - Cities and municipalities 8 -- 9 - Barangays and Districts of Manila 10 -- Zones 12 -- all sitios/puroks can just simply be place=*) The congressional district is very problematic in terms of level in the hierarchy. Some congressional districts covers several municipalities while others in my case, Marikina covers only barangays. I think the most critical that we agreed on is the level for barangay and cities/municipalities. The other levels can be aggregated to the above basic unit. What do others think? -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Chartered Cities
Eugene / seav, Yes, the southern part of Davao City and the northern part of Davao del Sur is the boundary in the province of Sta. Cruz. If you notice here http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=6.9742lon=125.3851zoom=12layers=B000FTF there is no boundary between Sta. Cruz and Davao City yet, I am looking for the boundary data and if somebody has it, it will be great. If voting will be needed regarding your proposal, you have my vote. murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 5/1/2009 9:20:55 AM To: mur...@mail2engineer.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: Chartered Cities Hi Marloue, Great that you brought this topic up since I mentioned in my old email the problem of representing chartered and independent cities.. I'll paste my original piece here for reference: III. Highly-urbanized Cities and Independent Component Cities How do we handle the case of Highly-urbanized Cities and Independent Component Cities? boundary=administrative implies an administration delineation of sorts (e.g., the area delineated by the boundaries of Rizal province is under the jurisdiction of the Provincial Government of Rizal). HUCs and ICCs are administratively independent of their provinces (save from unusual exceptions depending on the City Charter, like Mandaue City residents being able to vote for Cebu Provincial positions despite being an HUC). For example, Cebu City is a HUC and so the Cebu Provincial Government has no legal say over the territory of Cebu CIty (except for the limited case of paying costs to Cebu City for hosting the Cebu Provincial Capitol). (This has resulted in a lot of legal battle between Cebu City and Cebu Province, like the dispute on who has jurisdiction over Osmena Circle in Cebu City.) (See this Wikipedia article section regarding independent cities: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_of_the_Philippines#Independent_citi es ) My proposal is that provincial boundaries should exclude these cities. So Benguet's borders will have Baguio City as an enclave while Cebu province's borders will exclude Cebu City, Mandaue City, and Lapu-Lapu City. So Davao del Sur's northern border will be Davao City's southern border. Eugene / seav On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: I created a separate thread for this to give focus to the original topic. What I said is actually true, in March 1, 1937 (but Araw ng Dabaw is in March 16) Davao City is inaugurated by President Manuel L. Quezon as a chartered city by then Davao City is separated from Davao del Sur. Unlike Davao del Sur, Davao City doesn't have a Governor. Well, actually we are not insisting, in fact most of us does not know that Davao City is separate to any provinces it is already separate and that includes Zamboanga City and Puerto Princesa (correct me if I'm wrong). It is also correct that for statistical purposes DC is grouped under Davao del Sur. That is why the City Government announces before in tri-media not to fill in the Province part of any government forms. To separate the Davao City data from Davao del Sur. Here's some reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartered_city http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davao_City http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboanga_City http://www.nscb.gov.ph/ru11/davao_city/default.htm murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 4/30/2009 8:28:19 PM To: mur...@mail2engineer.com Cc: emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com;talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Revisiting the admin_level values forboundary=administrative Hi Marloue, Slightly off-topic question. Since you're from Davao City, are residents of the city adamant about insisting that Davao City is separate from Davao del Sur? *Some* people from Zamboanga City are positively vocal (and sometimes actually hostile!) whenever people say they are part of Zamboanga del Sur[1]. Many maps of the Philippines simplify the country's administrative situation by making ALL cities (except those in Metro Manila) be part of a province. The National Statistical Coordination Board actually groups Davao City under Davao del Sur[2], but only for statistical purposes.. Eugene / seav -- [1] http://www.zamboanga.com/html/terrorism_attack_on_zamboanga_city.htm [2] http://www.nscb.gov.ph/activestats/psgc/municipality.asp?muncode=11240 2000regcode=11provcode=24 -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org
[talk-ph] Fw: Re: OSM Information Dissemination in Davao
Yah, pinagpaguran ko yun sa pag download; that's more of you slides, hehe. Thanks for the materials. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 4/2/2009 2:34:11 PM To: mur...@mail2engineer.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OSM Information Dissemination in Davao btw, I like yours slides :) On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Marloue Pidor wrote: Here another link http://dabawegnu.org/Members/holden/l-k-gis-gps-openstreet-maps/ they wanted another session and more participants will be attending. murlwe From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 4/2/2009 11:02:21 AM To: mur...@mail2engineer.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OSM Information Dissemination in Davao cheers to murlwe and neuraltech http://feathervane.blogspot.com/2009/03/linux-at-kape-open-street-map.h tml On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Marloue Pidor wrote: Hi to all: We are starting the information dissemination for OSM in Davao City and hopefully this will spread to other cities and provinces here in Mindanao.. Here's the URL: http://dabawegnu.org/events murlwe ___ Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage – POP3 – Calendar – SMS – Translator – Much More! ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- . ___ Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage ? POP3 ? Calendar ? SMS ? Translator ? Much More! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- . span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
