Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap's first flight!
Hi, yes was about to suggest map warper (warper.geothings.net) it can handle oblique photos, given enough control points (which you'd need for a desktop equivalent) However, the server it's running on is crappy and shared and stingy on processes that need some power, so I've had to restrict it so that its only good for a few images where each image is about 1500x1500. Multiple images can then be stitched together. So would be best for lots of images which can be collaborativley rectified. However, the code is open source, and I have another unrestrcited server available which would be able to work with much larger images. if you would like a bespoke online warper instance. Let me know :) Cheers. Tim http:thinkwhere.wordpress.com (sent from a phone) On Sep 13, 2009 4:04 PM, John Robert Peterson jrp@gmail.com wrote: As for plans for how -- I sent an email to the OAM list for advice, and haven't gotten a reply. As for hosting, that's even more of a mystery. I'm not planning to put them all online in the short term -- while flickr would be able ot hold all 10GB of data, it would be an almost imposable ot access format. If anyone know how to process this type of data, or has even a little info that may be hlpful, please come with it. I had a go with http://warper.geothings.net -- the results were disappointing, and exceedingly slow. It's a good service, but it's designed for rectifying maps, not oblique photos. I have been investigating the possibilities of using something like Panorama Tools / hugin -- they are designed for panoramas, but the idea of auto identifying matching points between a set of images, and using them as the reference points for stitching sounds very appealing. If anyone knows of a way to do this, please help. If anyone wants a copy of the complete data set for anything open source/creative commons/sensible -- let me know, we can come ot some arangment involving posting things. JR 2009/9/13 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com I did note there was a call for help with rectifying. Are there any plans yet for how this ... ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots
Hi Alexander, Nice to see it popular, however... a few of us like to use a twitter search for openstreetmap to see what humans are saying but recently pretty much all of the tweets we receive for this search are from these bots. Would it be possible to reduce the level of spam - one example could be for the bots to use the shorturl (osm.org) or other short url service instead of the full openstreetmap.org url? Cheers, Tim 2009/8/20 Alexander Klink o...@alech.de: Hi everyone, This weekend, I hacked together a quick twitter bot, which now tweets all changesets in a certain are (in my case, Darmstadt, Germany) - see http://twitter.com/osm_darmstadt I've found it quite useful thus far, on the one hand I write better changeset comments, because I know they will be on Twitter, on the other hand, I see what happens in my community. If you want to run a similar bot, you can find the source at http://git.alech.de/?p=osm_twitter_bots.git Alternatively, I can add a bit of code to run more than one bot at a time and run a few of them for you (until I hit the Twitter API limits), I'd only need a name and a bounding box for that. Cheers, Alex -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFKjO3arNikioikZhERAi5AAKC5KuRFHQ5uh8ylmIAVIFinU8T8iACg03az 2ueMj6UmU+N7HIlPyKMlnZI= =T0Ab -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.1
2009/7/11 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: == Photo-mapping == You can now do photo-mapping with Potlatch. Just click the camera icon, and it’ll talk to your favourite online photo storage service to get pictures. By default it uses openstreetphoto.org - so many thanks to Stefan de Konink (you may want to print that sentence out and frame it) for that. OSP’s coverage is only beginning but, coincidentally, I believe there’s some good pictures in Amsterdam. It reads a subset of KML, so you can set up your own site, and I know John McKerrell is working on one such right now. Nice but can anyone tell us how we can add photos to OpenStreetPhoto ? Neither the page on openstreetphoto.org nor http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OpenStreetPhoto gives any detail about how us, the community can add photos to this database. All I can find are details about how it could be implemented, and some info about a model helicopter. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping party suggestion for SOTM
2009/7/9 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: A few months ago in some local news media a talking head claimed that Amsterdam's Red Light District wasn't in central Amsterdam and moreover that it didn't contain any Coffee shops, i.e. ones of the type that'll sell you more than just beverages. So of course I headed over to OSM to prove both of these to be incorrect. Only to find to my disappointment that not only did the map of Amsterdam not have an area (or even a POI!) for the Red Light district, it also didn't have any sort of tagging schema for aforementioned Coffee shops. (Incidental after some searching around this is the best map I can find showing those two features: http://www.coffeeshop.freeuk.com/Map.html) So here's hoping that SOTM visitors to Amsterdam will be able to rectify this situation. The problem of coming up with a tagging schema for POIs applicable to these two categories I leave to you. I think that would be an interesting little micro mapping party. Brings up the subject of how to map known illegal establishments - we should map the truth on the ground, we should map their land use as something like brothel and recreational drug shop, in my opinion. In a few countries, the law looks the other way, or are facing loopholes, - the places name themselves massage parlour, coffee shop but people passing by know what they are really for. Added to this is the threat that these places may take offence (sue?) at being labeled as doing illegal things (even though they may well be). Tim ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Photos
Hi, whilst on the subject of Flickr, probably 1/2 of the photos tagged with openstreetmap in Flickr would match what you are looking for: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/openstreetmap/ cheers, Tim ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map
One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with OSM is that whenever they visit the site, the map shows them just the UK. What are people's thoughts about the default zoom? I'm aware that sometimes it may use a cookie and so the map will open up to a previously viewed area - but only when logged in. At present the website does not have a remember me / persistent login - so that a user has to view the UK area on the map first, as a logged out user, before manually logging in, and thereby possibly seeing the map change. Do you think it makes a difference what area a user views? Would zooming based on IP Address be a good idea? How about using cookies for non-logged in users? How do other mapping websites do things, and are there any lessons to learn? (One main difference on other sites is that their search box is much more prominent) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-GB] Pateley Bridge mapping party 7th June 2009 with the AGI Northern Group SIG
Hi Folks, been on the cards for a while, but we've decided on a location, Pateley Bridge, in North Yorkshire, a nice little place, with the UK's oldest sweet shop, apparently! All welcome, the more the merrier. The surrounding area needs mapping too, and there should be excellent walks nearby. Sunday 7th June, for one day http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pateley_Bridge_Mapping_Party If there's enough interest, lift shares / minibuses could be arranged. It's being run In collaboration with the AGI Northern Group - sign up on the OSM wiki, but also (its free!) sign up on the groups event page http://www.agi.org.uk/sig/north so they can get accurate numbers. Also, it's got 4 CPD points, for those doing profession development / or going for their Chartered Geographer. If you know the area, we are after a nice family friendly venue to meet for the day, perhaps a cafe? We may also be getting the loan of some GPS units from the Environment Agency. Cheers! Tim ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Generating Mapnik Images to epsg:27700 (British National Grid) Projection
please correct me, I want to be wrong, I heard yesterday that by projecting any data into OSGB, the OS has copyright / dominion over it, since they own that coordinate system. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk] People's Map
2009/4/10 andrew heggie l...@sylva.icuklive.co.uk: On Friday 10 April 2009 22:05:15 Martin Spott wrote: D Tucny wrote: How much does a small plane with camera mount cost to hire for a day? :) I don't know about a day but 17 overlapping images of an approximately 10 by 10 km area cost me GBP600. Once rectified they were not true plan images being slightly oblique. I guess the best images would be taken higher ( mine were 14000ft IIRC) with a longer lens to reduce parallax errors. It depends on wether you're going to invite the pilot for a nice meal :-) I think the most tricky part of the story is still to rectify and adjust the resulting aerial imagery. If you managed to develop a procedure for this step, please let me know ;-) Jukka Rahkonen showed me how to do it with gdal_translate and gdalwarp. It's a lot easier than it looks at first. Essentially the first bit burns ground control points into the image the second then stretches the image and produces a geoTIFF from it. I visited 4 ground control points with my GPS each about 3km apart and at prominent points near the corners of each image. I suggest you need farm ore ground control points than this at this scale because my georectified image was up to 20 metres adrift in some parts. Indeed it's quite easy, at the basic level you can use a similar service such as http://warper.geothings.net or choose from a desktop GIS, most of them have some way of doing this. These would georectify images, but we should orthorectify them too which is a bit more trickier. What happens is that the distance from lens to ground is different over varying terrain, so it doesn't match what a map would be. Crudely, imagine taking a snapshot photo from the plane just as you fly over a mountain top: way down below you'd see the tiny roads, but most of the frame would be the mountain peak. Of course, orthorectification is more important with terrain at different heights, and less so for flat ones. I think the way these are done are to use a digital evevation model - I would hope the free SRTM could be sufficient? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-GB] Wincanton streets in the news
2009/4/7 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: I notice this week that Wincanton has a new house estate and the streets are getting named after Ankh-Morpork (If any one is going to map that I'm not sure where we put the data :) Is there a way to tag towns with there twin town. Oh where is Peach Pie Street and Treacle Mine Road. Peter. It's one of those life imitating art imitating life things, but there have been many Treacle Mines in the UK. In particular, Polegate Treacle Mine in East Sussex, has given it's name to a reasonably new pub off the A22 :-) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.829606mlon=0.236614zoom=17 For a more comprehensive list of mines: http://www.treacleminer.com/ unfortunately many of these mines are disused. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Route planner using UK OSM data
Hi Andrew, This is really neat. it's good to see a few excellent routers occuring because of OSM. I think your one is quite powerful for the ability to customise the weighting, nice! Also, any plans to release the source for the router available so we can play too? Tim 2009/3/22 Andrew M. Bishop a...@gedanken.demon.co.uk: I have been a contributor to OpenStreetMap for a while now and recently decided to make use of some of the collected data rather than just adding to it. I decided that what would be fun to implement is a routing algorithm that can find the best (shortest or quickest) route between any two OSM highway nodes. I know that there are other routing algorithms available but this started as an intellectual exercise so I developed my own. It seemed to work so I added a fancy web front end to it and put it on a server. Having the complete planet routable was infeasible so I have just included the data for Ireland and Great Britain. You can select from any of the major OSM transport types (foot, bicycle, horse, motorbike, motorcar, goods, hgv, psv). For each of the OSM highway types (motorway, trunk, primary, secondary, tertiary, unclassified, residential, service, track, bridleway, cycleway, footway) you can select whether to use them and if so what speed limit. Restrictions on one-way streets, weight, height, width and length are also options. The router takes into account private/public/permissive restrictions on highways as well as tagged speed limits. What it doesn't do is barriers (gates, bollards) and turn restriction relations (which I have heard about but never seen). The router itself (requires JavaScript for the map etc): http://www.gedanken.org.uk/mapping/router/router.html A description of the algorithm: http://www.gedanken.org.uk/mapping/router/ -- Andrew. -- Andrew M. Bishop a...@gedanken.demon.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk] Call for Papers for SOTM09 is now open
2009/3/16 Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com: That's right - there's only 117 days until we start SOTMizing in Amsterdam. Details of the Call for Papers are here: http://www.stateofthemap.org/2009/03/16/call-for-papers-for-the-stateofthemap-2009-is-now-open/ You can buy an early bird ticket for the recession beating price of € 85 here until the 29th March: http://www.stateofthemap.org/register-now/ Could you clarify the call for papers and the Business Day - there doesn't seem to be a way to just submit a paper to one or the other, or to give a preference. From what I gather, the differences are not just Serious Business on one day vs Fun Geeky Community stuff - there's cross over, right? Might we have to submit two talks, one about how you can make serious money using X for Friday, and one about the ins and outs of how X was made for the weekend? Could we see certain talks repeated, say, from a celebrity speaker, generous sponsor, etc? Tim ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Call for Papers for SOTM09 is now open
Thanks Nick, for the clarification - it's certainly looking like it's going to be a cracking conference! chippy 2009/3/16 Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com: Hi Chippy, The idea of the business day is to promote OSM and opengeodata to potential users. The business day is not so much about letting OSM solution providers promote their products. We want to focus on the bigger issues - why OSM is important to consumers of geodata, why crowd sourcing is the way forward, reliability of OSM etc. We are planning a 10 of the best session - a one hour slot that would let startups and small businesses pitch their solution to the audience. The SOTM organizing committee are currently finalizing the themes and agenda, but this is what we are looking like at the moment: Suggested Themes: Crucially Independent - Why an independent third data source is vital for consumers of geodata The Crowd Sourced Advantage - What is crowd sourcing and how does it relate to map data? Safe and Secure - Delivering reliable, high quality products and services with OSM data Serving the Public - Using OSM data to provide better services to citizens in Local and National Government Criteria for Choosing Speakers World leader in a field that is directly relevant to a theme Senior level in a company that is contributing to the themes of the day Target Audience Execs and senior management from mobile handset manufacturers, network operators, transport consultancies, national and local government, web portals, navigation providers and other ISVs using mapping data Professional cartographers, GIS analysts and statisticians Owners of start-ups and small businesses who use or are considering using mapping data OSMers (of course ;-) ) Concept program Show the problem - why do you need crowd sourced data? Introduce the solution - OSM - crowdsourced, reliable, up to date Give examples - people using OSM data Discussion panel - panel made up of leading speakers for the day The quick answer is that you should first submit to the weekend conference, via the online form. When the Biz Day is finalised (in the next few days) you can always re-submit or submit a second paper. Cheers, On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Tim Waters (chippy) chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/16 Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com: That's right - there's only 117 days until we start SOTMizing in Amsterdam. Details of the Call for Papers are here: http://www.stateofthemap.org/2009/03/16/call-for-papers-for-the-stateofthemap-2009-is-now-open/ You can buy an early bird ticket for the recession beating price of € 85 here until the 29th March: http://www.stateofthemap.org/register-now/ Could you clarify the call for papers and the Business Day - there doesn't seem to be a way to just submit a paper to one or the other, or to give a preference. From what I gather, the differences are not just Serious Business on one day vs Fun Geeky Community stuff - there's cross over, right? Might we have to submit two talks, one about how you can make serious money using X for Friday, and one about the ins and outs of how X was made for the weekend? Could we see certain talks repeated, say, from a celebrity speaker, generous sponsor, etc? Tim -- -- Nick Black twitter.com/nick_b ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] California bill to limit detail on online mapping tools
And yet, the exact opposite is required, for certain locations in California. Megan's Law http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/ Specific home addresses are displayed on more than 33,500 offenders in the California communities; as to these persons, the site displays the last registered address reported by the offender. An additional 30,500 offenders are included on the site with listing by ZIP Code, city, and county ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-GB] OSM Guardian Open Platform, press
Guardian release new API http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/mar/10/guardian-open-platform Gives a nice sizeable shout out towards the project. OSM are partners in the launch with Stamen, apparently. Other partners for the launch of the service include web design firm Stamen and OpenStreetMap, a free, open alternative to commercial map data services. Stamen and OpenStreetMap developed a service that they hope will encourage Guardian readers to geo-tag the newspaper's content, positioning every article, video and picture on a map so users can find news, commentary, video and other content related to their area. Anyone seen anything more regarding this? Tim ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Large format scans, A0
couple of ideas, in case you don't get access to an A0 scanner (local copy shop charges quite a lot for one scan)... With a project I'm working on at the moment, the old maps have been photographed from above rather than scanned. You could scan / snap smaller areas of each map and ask the community to piece them together. Tim ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?
A few points to throw in the mix: * Do we have people who want to write a blog for the project as a whole? - Blogging requires quite a bit of commitment, especially for such a fast moving project, if things get busy elsewhere, the blogs tend to suffer. * Assuming we have enough people interested, should we have some kind of editorial policy (i.e. no Wee Poo Street notifications, or max two LOLcat pictures a month)? * If we create a new blog - can/should we import the relevant tagged entries from opengeodata? * Can we simply rename opengeodata or point to blog subdomain? (Where is it hosted?) tim ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on The Reg
Interesting how a few of the comments echo the early Wikipedia criticisms, and miss the point about open data. 2009/2/11 Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk: I saw this yesterday and wondered why it took El Reg so long to report on this? The announcement made these mailing lists on 23rd December last year. Ed From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of D Tucny Sent: 11 February 2009 09:31 To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM on The Reg http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/10/brum_map/ Couple of nice links there, both to the map and the home page... Comments in the comments section are largely at the same level of positiveness and understanding as is largely normal on the reg these days (read mostly negative)... d ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] New Map Warper
Hi, I'd like to announce the release of the latest Map Warper image rectifier application, designed with OSM in mind. http://warper.geothings.net/ You may have seen or used the older application, this one has got a few more bells and whistles, including: * Search for maps. * Users MyMaps. (no need to sign up to use it) * Image cropping. * Control Point editing. * Calculation of RMS errors. * Export in different formats. * Activity feeds. More info: http://thinkwhere.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/new-map-warper/ Caveats: It will rescale large images (over 1500x1500), but it also makes things work much faster. It is ultra-beta and undergoing active development, so expect bugs and things not to work, but for most uses it should work fine. Let me know if you encounter any such things. If you have any existing WMS links from the older version, they will still work and I've also imported the existing maps, and control points. If you sign up and want to own a map you previously uploaded, let me know. Features planned include serving the rectified maps as tiles, adding tags, making maps private, making the KML export better, and incorporating GeoRSS feeds. Again, feel free to drop me a line if you have a good idea for a new feature, or if you'd like to hack on it. Uses OpenLayers, GDAL, Mapserver and RubyOnRails, source can be found http://svn2.geothings/net/mapwarper or http://github.com/timwaters/mapwarper Cheers, Tim Incidentally, what do we think about using Google's Satellite View for helping to rectify our maps? In the comments of Ed Parsons post http://www.edparsons.com/2008/10/who-map-is-it-anyway/ there was a discussion about Google's rights over things you make using their API, and I think Ed is making it clear that using the Satellite view to rectify images for this application would be quite OK, giving the similar use case of adding an image to Google Earth and I'm inclined to agree with him. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New Map Warper
2009/2/11 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Tim Waters (chippy) chippy2...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to announce the release of the latest Map Warper image rectifier application, designed with OSM in mind. http://warper.geothings.net/ Firstly thanks for working on this, it's a very useful application which makes it very easy to use third-party bitmap maps to import into OSM. You may have seen or used the older application, this one has got a few more bells and whistles, including: * Search for maps. * Users MyMaps. (no need to sign up to use it) * Image cropping. * Control Point editing. * Calculation of RMS errors. * Export in different formats. * Activity feeds. More info: http://thinkwhere.wordpress.com/2009/02/10/new-map-warper/ Caveats: It will rescale large images (over 1500x1500), but it also makes things work much faster. It is ultra-beta and undergoing active development, so expect bugs and things not to work, but for most uses it should work fine. Let me know if you encounter any such things. If you have any existing WMS links from the older version, they will still work and I've also imported the existing maps, and control points. If you sign up and want to own a map you previously uploaded, let me know. Features planned include serving the rectified maps as tiles, adding tags, making maps private, making the KML export better, and incorporating GeoRSS feeds. Again, feel free to drop me a line if you have a good idea for a new feature, or if you'd like to hack on it. These new features are very useful, especially the ones to do with user accounts, it's nice to have a list of your maps instead of just adding them to one giant pool. I think the map rectifier is a bit less intuitive than in the previous version. I used to be able to double click on either map which would add a new rectification point and then do the same with the other map, but now one has to switch between the Add point/Move point/Move map tools to move around the map. This has the advantage of being able to double click on the map in move mode without adding points (and probably something else I'm missing). But switching between the different modes took me bit longer using this method. Yes, I'd agree with you there, the reasoning is that people tend to use double click to zoom in, but I think that double clicking should make it a bit easier. Will look into it. Also, being able to download GeoTiff from the application is a very useful feature, but does it also support GeoTiff uploads? That would enable moving maps between installations and using this as a easy to set up WMS for misc GeoTiff files. At the moment, I don't think it likes geotiff files that have already been rectified, but you could try with a small one... Anyhow, the approach I would take is to strip out any original geo tags from the image, and so you would have to add a few control points and warp it again. It's not really meant to be a WMS host for ready made GeoTiff files, but I may put a simple upload-a-tif-and-host-it service anyhow, as you are not the first person to ask for this. (JOSM import support for reading geotiffs would rock). The biggest disadvantage of this tool is still being limited by the size of maps you can upload. I have several ~6000x~5000 pixel maps I'd like to have access to over WMS, each around 12 MB[1]. Is there any reason for this limitation other than preventing the application from taking over resources on your server? Or is it a limitation of some library you're working with? Yes, this is Dreamhost, they have a script that will terminate processes using a lot of CPU or RAM, so I can add a couple of restrictions (file size and image dimensions). You may like to have a look at another deploy over at http://warper.freemap.in for larger files. We're going to be warping 800mb tifs soon... here, the main limitation is that you can expect http timeouts for very large uploads. Cheers! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on The Reg
2009/2/11 Someoneelse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk: One thing that might be useful would be some sort of My OSM or a saved play mode feature* - Now, that would be an interesting idea - being able to access all your edits and the history of these in one place. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-GB] Birmingham Apostrophes
was also in the Guardian and the Times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article5614962.ece ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk] Network Rail UK
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:45 PM, andrew heggie l...@sylva.icuklive.co.uk wrote: Is it possible to derive a vector layer of UK's rail network and would I be allowed to use it to produce reports for my work? If so how because it will save me a lot of tracing! AJH Worth mentioning that geofabrik makes very regular exports of railways for the UK. You can download them from http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/great_britain/ cheers, Tim ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-GB] Northern Meet-up, Leeds - Sunday 25 Jan at the Scarborough Hotel pub , 3pm
Hi, In what I hope will be the first of many regular meet-ups throughout the North, just a little reminder about the upcoming meet-up at the Scarborough Hotel, in Leeds, at 3pm this Sunday the 25th Jan. Look out for geeks with GPS units and maps! The pub is located just outside the train station: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.79549lon=-1.5465zoom=17layers=0B00FTF (The pub's loc_name = The Scabbie Taps ) All welcome see you there! Tim 07941902640 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk] google wms
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Andrew Chadwick (email lists) andrewc-email-li...@piffle.org wrote: Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: apologies if this has been brought up before, but some people I have brought into OSM have stumbled across this site: http://www.peterdamen.com/GoogleWMS/ and were all set to pollute the OSM database when I stopped them. Can we not convince this gentleman to cease and desist? Persuading the author to put up a big reminder at the top of the page saying OSM users: please upload only to private osm-api servers or somesuch might be more useful. The tool is presumably useful outside OSM! Well even so, it would probably be against the terms of use etc from Google, and they can ask for it to be taken down, so whilst it may be useful, it cannot be used... That saying, whilst it would apply to Google, it wouldn't be for everything. The tool could be used for other tiled layers - something of much greater use. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OpenSantaMap
One of the main strengths of OpenStreetMap is that we have access to the raw data, and one of the best ways we can illustrate this power, whilst also reinforcing the idea that the map is just a rendering of the data, is to create custom renders. Great examples of these are the Mapnik and ti...@home maps, Cloudmade's mobile tiles, and of course the award winning OpenCycleMap. And now, as there has been some talk about a fun seasonal render, OpenSantaMap, I have started a wiki page for us to add our thoughts. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenSantaMap Some ideas to get the (snow)ball rolling: Snowflake background. Using the Unicode snowman character ☃ . Changing colours to more gaudy red/green scheme. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-GB] talk-gb-thenorth list for The North get together in January.
a new list for The North region http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-thenorth We'll be having the first regional social get together with tea, cake and/or beer which I've pencilled in for Sunday 25th January in a location somewhere in Leeds, West Yorkshire Sign up to the list, and let's map the north! Tim (the term The North is intentionally vague, I guess it's mainly aimed at North England, but if you think you are in the north, then you are! :-) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk] GPS banned in Egypt
Crikey. Apparently, they were making a map for Nokia. http://nationalnewsofindiadaily.blogspot.com/2008/12/two-detained-in-gujarat-after-survey.html No statements from that telecommunication giant, or much in the way of comment from the company they worked for (Biond Software). Tim On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Steve Chilton s.l.chil...@mdx.ac.uk wrote: And now post-Mumbai paranoia: http://geocartablog.com/?p=900 Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow Manager of e-Learning Academic Development Centre for Educational Technology Middlesex University phone/fax: 020 8411 5355 email: ste...@mdx.ac.uk http://www.mdx.ac.uk/schools/hssc/staff/profiles/technical/chiltons.asp Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/ SoC conference 2008: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/cartographers08/ -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Frederik Ramm Sent: 14 December 2008 00:38 To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: [OSM-talk] GPS banned in Egypt Hi, probably not news to most of you but until recently I had assumed that only a few outlandish places like China and Saudi Arabia had banned GPSes; now I read that Egypt - hitherto regarded by Y.T. as an at least halfway civil place - has had a GPS ban in place for 5 years now: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/09/egypt-iphone-mobile-gps Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Make Messaging public, or other changes?
I would like the see the messaging system open to the API, so that, for example, you can directly message someone via an editor or something about a particular map element. So mapping queries / advice would be public, and accessible from multiple areas. This would be be best suited to a public exchange. It would be a different system than the osm app user messaging system, which I'm keen to keep as is. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Anyone familiar with Pulkova 1932 coordinates?
This website may help? http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/?search=Pulkovo Tim On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Gustav Foseid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got the official coordinates for all the border stones and markers along the Norwegian-Russian border. The points are taken from the official protocol, and are in Pulkovo 1932 coordinate system. Does anyone have experience in working with this coordinate system or know how to transform the values to WGS84? The file is available from http://www.foseid.priv.no/gustav/2008/osm/Russkoor.xls, but all comments are in Norwegian only. - Gustav ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Using images as a backdrop for editing OSM data
All fixed now Ævar :-) Nothing wrong with your map, was a previous one that was upsetting the parser. The wrper should be seeing some more features in the near future, so watch this space! Tim On 11/17/08, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Mikel Maron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With Map Warper http://wrp.geothings.net/ you can rectify the image use ground control points against existing OSM data, or Landsat. There's a WMS end point for the warped image you can configure for use in JOSM. Thanks, that sort of tool was exactly what I was looking for, I uploaded an image to the site but when I view it with ewmsplugin in JOSM I only get the red background with Exception occurred indicating an error in the remote application, this is one of the URIs JOSM tried to use: http://wrp.geothings.net/cgi/mapserv.cgi?map=/home/timwarp/wrp.geothings.net/releases/20080718131730/db/mapfiles/map2.maplayers=image215REQUEST=GetMapVERSION=1.1.1STYLES=FORMAT=image/pngSRS=EPSG:4326bbox=-22.5246436,63.9904647,-22.0127198,64.5023884width=500height=499 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] barrier=gate
On 11/9/08, Ed Loach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard asked: Isn't the point of a gate that you can open it? i.e. traffic is allowed through, but for routing purposes there's a time penalty. I wouldn't have said so. The point of tagging is a gate is to show there is a gate across a way. Examples I've seen so far include a gate beyond which is a service road for a supermarket (so permissions for the service road are down to who the keyholder is, gates across footpaths (which can be opened), gates into fields (so the landowner has the key) and similar. There are lots of reasons for gates, but it's been a long, long time since I saw one across a road (I was in Scotland IIRC) which is like that you describe above. highway toll gate But of course, traffic can also mean horse ridges, cyclists etc, all of which come across gates on the ways they go on, that are open and incur a time penalty. please shut the gate. Sometimes a gate is just a gate. For the majority of cases I use gate when mapping, they are able to be opened, but in a small subset of this, when they are on a road, for car drivers, the majority appear to be locked. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Minimum or maximum clothing demanded
On 11/3/08, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Depends on what you're wearing - clothes make the man! clothes = emperors_new --- Perhaps we can view clothing as we can view other restrictions dress_code:yes dress_code:no workwear after 7pm beach:yes clothes:permissive church clothes:required clothes_rule:hats off for men So, an indication that a place has a particular clothing rule, the nature of that rule, and the specifics of the rule ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Minimum or maximum clothing demanded
Is it minimum clothing? To me, min_clothing=kippah implies that the very minimum for me to wear would be a kippah, and not wearing socks, underwear, vest etc. similarly with min_clothing=scarf - no indication of the general clothing rules. and echoing earlier replies: Could we extend this to places with other clothing rules, such as: no workwear after 7pm? no hoodies no boots muddy walking boots welcome no swimwear nude beach etc On 11/3/08, Joseph Gentle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the idea. The english term for clothing requirements is a Dress Code. I'm not sure how this can best fit in - dress_code_min=formal, dress_code_max=naked ? -J On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, please have a look and discuss my proposal about clothing that is expected to enter a place. (FKK: Max_clothing, churches etc: min_clothing http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Clothing Thanks Lulu-Ann -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Calling all Yahoo! tracers. Manchester, UK needs you before Saturday!
Thanks to all Yahoo tracers! It really made a huge difference, gave people, families and children without GPS units a good easy task to fill in the names, and helped us using the GPS devices loaded with no named streets, to know where to capture the names. Many thanks! Tim ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Manchester mapping party - any spare GPSs?
Hi Farzaneh, I'll be bringing two of the OSM GPS units for loan (in addition to my own) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Gps_units But I also am pretty sure there will be some more brought from the same collection in Manchester, so don't worry! :-) Cheers, Tim On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Farzaneh Sarafraz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to attend the Manchester mapping party, but do not have a GPS at the moment. Anyone has a spare for this w/e? Farzaneh. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] pub vs café
But I've been in many cafes with no dedicated kitchens (Starbucks, for instance). And a lot of pubs with dedicated kitchens. A pub's main revenue comes from the booze. Many of them are closing down their kitchens to save money. Some pubs have a tiny bar, and most of it is a restaurant - so called gastro-pubs. cafe, from coffee - selling coffee. A coffee, or tea shop. Cake. pub, from public - selling, erm, beer. No cake. another, less official: A pub - It has frosted windows, closed off areas, no table service. Mainly male. Is more popular in the evening and night. a cafe has clear windows, and a terrace open to the world. Table service, open to all, people watching is part of it. Is more popular in the daytime. Maybe, ultimately, it's cake vs no cake? Or pork scratchings vs cake? On 10/18/08, Matt Amos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Iván Sánchez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El Sábado, 18 de Octubre de 2008, Pete Lawrence escribió: Restaurants v's cafe's are probably more likely to be mixed up. It's easy, actually: dedicated kitchen area or not. there are several cafes near me with dedicated kitchen areas - often the british style caff which specialises in fry-ups. when i'm tagging i choose based on whether it looks like a lunch, snack and coffee place or a seated dinner place. sometimes the signage provides a big clue :-) cheers, matt ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence brief/Use Case - final call for comments
On 10/14/08, Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a final call for comments by readers of legal-talk for feedback on the brief and the use cases. I think we should make it clear in each use case the full requirements, the whole picture, including whether they would also be required to make available any changed osm data, derivative database etc. For example, I'm not sure but I think that Publishing a simple map in a book, newsletter would require a not-so-simple requirement to make the data they used available, somehow... ___ legal-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License License License
On 10/13/08, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suppose I am a statistics wizard. I take the planet file and run it through any number of processing steps, using a lot of my proprietary knowledge and experience and algorithms I have created and whatnot, to produce interesting evaluations and nice maps suggesting, for example, what the quality of life is in certain areas or so. I offer these maps on my web site for anyone to use. What part of my internal process I used to arrive at these maps do I have to make public? I will most likely have created a number of derived databases along the way, not adding factual info or correcting OSM mistakes or so, but still I will have enriched the data by e.g. creating all kinds of time consuming statistical analyses on top of it. Would this database have to be published along with my integrated experience? I'm not asking about what the current license draft says, I'm asking what we (the community) want from the user of our data in such cases. I wouldn't want any of it, personally. I'd be interested in it if it looked like there was data that would be useful. Going back to the newly uploaded draft [1]. Maybe it's me, maybe it's the legal speak, but where does it explicitly say that if someone creates and releases to an unsuspecting public a derived work (paper map piddled on by performance artist, say) then they have to also make available any derived database that they used to make it with? On 10/13/08, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I the only one who sees the subject line and thinks of Badger Badger Badger? Share-Alike! Share-Alike! Ooooh It's a Share-Alike... [1] http://foundation.openstreetmap.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/open_database_license_01_draft.pdf ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Paid services from OSM
On 10/12/08, Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goodness me, that's an enormously confrontational-sounding posting, Whoops, it was meant to be more controversial than confrontational. * I would like OSMF to publish the current licence * IMHO OSMF should publish the licence e.t.c Publish the licence +1 If things have been sorted and addressed, then please tell us! If things haven't been sorted and addressed, then tell us and we can continue debating use cases about avant-garde performance artists. (I've a couple ready in draft) ___ legal-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-talk-fr] Avignon 1 Oct et Annecy 3rd Oct
Bonjour, So, at the Chambery pico mapping party, last friday, we had 2 people, but managed to capture many points of interest :) Today, I am in Avignon for a couple of days and hope to do some mapping. There looks like there is much to map. Would anyone like to join me in an impromptu mapping party tomorrow, Wednesday 1 October, in Avignon? (With some beer, of course!) Also, I will be in Annecy on 3rd October, so I hope to do some there too but it looks very well mapped already? Regards, Tim +44 7941 902640 (apologies for the english, mon francais n'est pas si bon.) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk] how not to showcase osm
On 8/29/08, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=-36.87730854072706lon=174.7505575972425zoom=17layers=B000F000F Well, osm.org experienced somewhat high traffic with some recent press articles. But the informationfreeway behaviour is strange. I also get no tiles with that link but zooming out and then in again shows it. (changing zoom=16 works too) tim ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-GB] Corporate Cartographers accused of demolishing history. (make press release?)
On 8/29/08, 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He didn't need to ask permission either. The Ordnance Survey Act of 1841 gives him the right to from time to time, after notice in writing of the intention ... to enter into and upon any estate or property of any county ... for the purpose of making and carrying on any survey... The full scoop is here: http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegType=All+PrimaryPageNumber=98NavFrom=2parentActiveTextDocId=1149277activetextdocid=1149281 I heard somewhere that they no longer hold this legal right? ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk] High-Precision GPS Survey Equipment?
On 8/25/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Just to give a hint at what is possible, the company I work for flagship receiver (L1/L2 dual frequency) can achieve sub-cm accuracy for static observations when tied into a nearby reference station (or other receiver). Anyone know if the very high accuracy receivers can maintain their accuracy whilst on the move, in a car for example, or whether you'd need to be static or do frog-jumps from point to point? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Tracing from Aerial Imagery
a recording (over 3 youtube videos) of Ed Parsons Mapmaker can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/user/ikiyamaps On 8/1/08, SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has the recording of that session been made live? On 31 Jul 2008, at 17:14, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, this question is directed at those that were present during the questions session following Ed Parsons' talk at this year's SOTM. If I remember correctly, Ed had just explained that Google needed to buy extra tracing licenses for aerial imagery to be used in Map Maker, and that these licenses were more expensive than the ordinary display licenses. Someone then said that Google Earth already has a built-in feature to trace from *any* Google imagery, and why that was allowed when Google didn't have those licenses. And in response Ed made a distinction that I had not heard in all those aerieal imagery tracing discussions. If I remember correctly, he said (more or less): As long as you trace something with which you have a personal relation - e.g. a bike route that you actually travelled, or the house that you live in - it's ok. It starts to become not ok only when you begin large-scale tracing of terrain that you have no personal relationship with. Question 1 - is that what Ed said? And question 2 - does it make sense, legally? And question 3 - so I am allowed to trace my house, and my neighbour's, and my workplace, and the bakery I visit every morning, and my birthplace, and my parent's house...? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk Best Steve ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/legal-talk ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Phone numbers in OSM
On 8/22/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A phone number in OSM will also remain after it's validity because of the lack of a process to check them regularily. This is assuming current levels of activity - where at present, most effort of contributors is put into mapping unmapped areas. This will change. In the future, most contributors will be maintaining, editing, updating and enriching these mapped areas. For me, a telephone number is one of these enriching bits of information, go for it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Mailing Lists for MOM development
Correct me if I'm wrong, but MOM development is closed, right? It's not FOSS? So why is there a requirement for a new OSM mailing list for mom development, when the OSM community cannot develop it? Perhaps this email subject is misleading me. If its *not* for development, is it for the developers to get and respond to feature suggestions? Perhaps you could think about using forums (a thread in the OSM forums could work) or email newsletter to communicate with your users. cheers, Tim On 8/20/08, elvin ibbotson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rory McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 20 August 2008 10:49:14 BDT To: Patrick Aljord [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Talk Openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Mailing Lists for MOM development Patrick Aljord wrote: Heh, I forgot about those, you do realize though that even if the mailing list are not hosted on google, as long as they are public Google will index them and collect all the data they can as the Big Brother they are. When it comes to public web service there is no way to avoid the Google (unless you use the robot.txt but that doesn't fly with mailing lists). The problem isn't that Google can read your data, this is a public mailing list. The problem is that google controls your list. In order for people to sign up to your list, they need to enter an agreement with Google. With your own hosted email list you are the one in control. We're getting sidetracked here with this Google v. OSM debate (anyone remember when Google were the good guys?). I'd like to set up a new OSM mailing list for mom but a quick glance at the wiki didn't find a 'how to set up a new mailing list' page. Can anyone point me in the right direction? elvin ibbotson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] latest release of mom
Elvin, looks interesting, will have to give it a go. I noticed its licensed under a CC licence. Is the source available too? tim On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:49 PM, elvin ibbotson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Patrick Aljord [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 13 August 2008 03:34:12 BDT To: OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] latest release of mom On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do i download it without filling out the form? i'd rather not give my details if it's all the same to you Looking at the html code, all you need to do is visit this page: http://mom.poco.org.uk/thanks.html Or just submit the form empty with an @ in the email field, the js validate function is not stricter than that. Pat Aha! but you missed the hidden code which causes your computer to explode if you just enter '@'. elvin ibbotson ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] osm in flickr
Very cool! Been panning around, is it just Beijing? No Isle of Man? ;) On 8/11/08, SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/map?fLat=39.912fLon=116.3783zl=4order_by=interestingness Best Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] GPS receiver orientation
On 7/26/08, Gervase Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Random question: does the orientation of a GPS receiver make any difference? If I hold my BGT-11 vertically, will it find it harder to get and keep a lock than if I hold it horizontally? I really want to do some experimentation with getting a lock from cold when placed on a dashboard, compared to held stationary in your hand, standing outside of the car. Possibly the body acts as a barrier to some satellites, but I've noticed that locks occur very fast when the GPS is in the car. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Slippy map not working in Firefox
for what it's worth, some others and I on Virgin Media were having quite a bit of trouble accessing openlayers.org for most of yesterday. Perhaps they could try a tracepath ? tim ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[Talk-GB] 2nd Leeds Mapping Party
Hi folks, OK, we've had a few micro mapping parties, and mapping pub crawls since the 1st Party, but this one should be a big 'un. It's part of the 2 day BarCamp Leeds, and should see sizeable parts of the city being filled in. The Saturday is mainly devoted to BarCamp, but we could see mapping presentations, mini mapping excursions or workshops by barcampers. (BarCamp Leeds is pretty much full registration wise, but they should be able to let in a couple of us OSM mappers, who want to be out and about instead of in the sessions, if we ask nicely), So the Sunday is where the main action is. Sunday 17 August Please sign up at the Eventwax address below, if you would like to come. http://openstreetmapleeds.eventwax.com/2nd-leeds-openstreetmap-mapping-party Keep an eye on this page and the wiki page for any changes. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Leeds#Events Meet at 10:30 - 11a.m, for coffee and wake up, orientation, newbie introduction and then go out and map. Meet back for lunch time, more newbie introduction, upload and edit workshops, and head out for the afternoon. BarCamp ends at lunch, so we will have the place to ourselves. Meet back in the afternoon, do editing, and drink beer! Its a party afterall!! If the weather is bad, my suggestion is to go copy and scan in some old out of copyright maps from the Leeds Central Library. Cheers! Tim / chippy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [OSM-talk] Trail Explorer is my OSM Surveyor Toolbox
Hi thevikas, sounds interesting, I like MTE. Star currently just adds a waypoint with incrementing id. Any code / binaries available for your modification? Tim On 7/22/08, ビカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have been working on a modification in Trail Explorer to assist OSM surveys, either on cars or cycles. The modification hooks on the STAR key and you need to press just one key respective to the type of point. The waypoint is saved with a text. For the moment, I just have few amenities like Fuel, Bus stop, gate, atm, entry, exit and traffic signal along with respective directions (left or right). I have been mapping my town Gurgaon and New Delhi, IN past 2 months. thevikas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups mobile-trail-explorer group. To post to this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mobile-trail-explorer?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New: 'OSM Mapper' for OpenStreetMap Contributors, by Ito World
It is a very good tool! many many thanks! It's making me want to map more, to climb higher up the charts, heh. Also, I note, that for my area, over half the contributors add just one or two features, a pub here, a road there. This is really encouraging for the project, in my opinion, it shows people just adding their little bit - something that in the future, I think we will see much more of (possibly even negating the need for a login for just a casual edit). The only little gripe I have is viewing it on my screen - it's limited to 1024 wide so I cannot see both the maps and the right hand side columns at the same time. Perhaps a setting / preference could be set to allow me to have a smaller map? cheers, chip On 7/18/08, Peter Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ito World Ltd is pleased to offer its new product 'OSM Mapper' to the OSM community. We demonstrated this product at 'State of the Map' and a number of OSM contributors have been trying it out since then. We are now ready to release it more widely. OSM Mapper is a free product that allows OpenStreetMap contributors to analyse the data for selected areas in lots of different ways to identify and correct faults. It also allows users to set up RSS feeds to monitor changes to the data in these selected areas. Read more on our blog: http://itoworld.blogspot.com/2008/07/new-osm-mapper-for-openstreetmap.html We like making interesting pictures from data. Here are a set of images created using OSM Mapper and some of our other products: http://www.flickr.com/groups/itomedia/pool/ Regards, Peter Miller Ito World Ltd www.itoworld.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] tagging peat bogs in ireland
Hi, as some of us have been out mapping the Irish countryside, we've come across peat bogs. Lowland peat bogs mainly, often being used for turf extraction (for fuel, or peat for garden centres etc). Anyone mapped these already? What tags do you use? It's certainly natural, sometimes protected, and sometimes used commercially. Cheers, Tim ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] tagging peat bogs in ireland
On 7/15/08, Dermot McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To expand on this - because it's something I've wondered about myself - when tagging as seen on-the-ground, there's a big difference between a bog being used commercially and a normal, untouched bog. The commercially-worked ones have had the vegetation layer stripped off to expose vast areas of chocolate-brown peat, easily recognised from satellite images. Untouched ones are marshy and have heather growing on them, but are otherwise of fairly normal appearance. Is there precedent from open-cast mines that might show us how to tag open bogs? There is this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Surface_Mining But I don't think it covers the bog as a whole. Perhaps a big polygon natural=lowland_bog and within that, areas of landuse=surface_mining with resource=peat ? This brown area, visible on landsat would represent the current mined area, open to the air. I think peat is the same as turf, used in domestic fires? Tim ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] tagging peat bogs in ireland
On 7/15/08, Dermot McNally [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That looks perfect. In practice, you'll probably find it difficult to map a bog as a whole, rather it's the big empty brown bit that you'll generally end up mapping. Agreed. It certainly is. In traditional use, cuboid sections of peat/turf would be extracted from the bog and left in the open air to dry. These were of a shape and size useful for a domestic fire. On the mass-market these days you generally get peat briquettes, which are made of milled peat, extracted mechanically from the exposed surface of the bog. This is then compressed into briquettes. And it smells lovely, doesn't it Ivan, not at all like wood ;) Also, for those who travelled from Limerick to Dublin by road and rail would have passed through a large expanse of bog. (raised peat bog, I think) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] State of the Map - less than one week to go
Looking forward to it! For those who arrive on the Friday, is there anything officially planned? Should we add some ideas to the wiki? Drinks and a bite to eat either in the city or at the venue? Cheers, Tim ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] who moved Mumbai?
UTM which EPS:32643 appears to be, could be implemented within the wmsplugin. The WMSplugin uses some classes from jcoord, to convert from OSGB (what the NPE wms server uses) to wgs84. (OSGB is itself Transverse Mercator too) Looking at the jcoord package, it also has classes to convert from UTM zones also : http://www.jstott.me.uk/jcoord/api/1.1-b/uk/me/jstott/jcoord/UTMRef.html So I'd think the wmsplugin could be hacked to get it working reasonably easily. Regards, Tim ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk
