Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Navigon to Sell OpenStreetMap POIs Packages for PNDs

2011-06-14 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 14 June 2011 15:51, Jonas Krückel jona...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Am 14.06.2011 um 15:43 schrieb andrzej zaborowski:
 On 14 June 2011 15:29, Jonas Krückel jona...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Once we move on to ODbL however, this will change and we will get
 the much more interesting 'raw' data.

 Which we can't re-use in OSM however.

 Maybe you should explain why not, because from my understanding this data
 would be in an OSM compatible license because of the share-a-like aspect of
 ODbL [1].

That means we can mix it with OSM, but not contribute it back to OSM
because the new contributor terms don't allow using ODbL licensed
data.


 Someone on IRC mentioned that the situation would be clearer under
 ODbL, too, but I think this is a false positive.  Additionally with
 ODbL Navigon may take the position that they made a produced work.

 Yes, their POI packages maybe produced work and could be proprietary, but
 they would still have to release the processed OSM data from in between,
 which as I stated above might be more interesting to us.
 All that is only on how I understand the license and I'm not an expert on
 this.

I'm not an expert either, perhaps you're right they'd have to release
the processed data.

 Also, I think it would be appropriate to continue this discussion on
 legal-talk.

Ok.

Cheers

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Navigon to Sell OpenStreetMap POIs Packages for PNDs

2011-06-14 Thread Richard Fairhurst
andrzej zaborowski wrote:
 That means we can mix it with OSM, but not contribute it back to 
 OSM because the new contributor terms don't allow using ODbL 
 licensed data.

The standard Contributor Terms don't have to be the only Contributor Terms.

cheers
Richard



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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Navigon to Sell OpenStreetMap POIs Packages for PNDs

2011-06-14 Thread Rob Myers
On 14/06/11 15:03, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
 andrzej zaborowski wrote:
 That means we can mix it with OSM, but not contribute it back to 
 OSM because the new contributor terms don't allow using ODbL 
 licensed data.
 
 The standard Contributor Terms don't have to be the only Contributor Terms.

But it helps. ;-)

- Rob.



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