Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]

2010-01-27 Thread Vincent Auvigne
I agree with Jean-Guilhem (osm-haiti). At the field level it’s important
that the international community doesn’t forget Haiti after the emergency
period. It’s the same at OSM level : it’s important to maintain the effort.
A great job has been done within a few day. More job is needed to perfect it
and, most of all, explain and help field actors to use OSM data.

 

Vincent

 

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De la part de Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Envoyé : mercredi 27 janvier 2010 20:54
À : Jean-Marc Liotier; OSM-talk
Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]

 

Jean-Marc Liotier a écrit : 

Frederik Ramm wrote:
  

[..]
 
I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer 
helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can 
then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.


 
I would rather say osm-crisis or osm-relief - keep it general so that it
will reach motivated individual next time such an emergency arises.
 
 
 
  

I think that it would be nice that Haiti rebuilding effort be supported by a
osm-haiti.

Which should not prevent an osm-crisis to be created as well, as a framework
for future crisis, and an open complement to CrisisMappers.

Best regards,

Jean-Guilhem

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]

2010-01-27 Thread Liz
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer 
> helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can 
> then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.
> 
+ a few people who had discussed this privately

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]

2010-01-27 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton

Jean-Marc Liotier a e'crit:

Frederik Ramm wrote:
  

[..]

I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer 
helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can 
then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.



I would rather say osm-crisis or osm-relief - keep it general so that it
will reach motivated individual next time such an emergency arises.



  
I think that it would be nice that Haiti rebuilding effort be supported 
by a osm-haiti.


Which should not prevent an osm-crisis to be created as well, as a 
framework for future crisis, and an open complement to CrisisMappers.


Best regards,

Jean-Guilhem
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]

2010-01-27 Thread David Groom


- Original Message - 
From: "Lars Francke" 
To: "Frederik Ramm" ; "OSM-talk" 

Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]


>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 17:58, Pieren  wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Frederik Ramm  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer
>>> helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can
>>> then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.
>>
>> You say exactly what I'm thinking since a couple of days, but more
>> diplomatically.
>> +1 for an osm-haiti or a more general "osm-relief" mailing-list.

+1 from me for osm-haiti.

osm-relief seems to vague a list title to deal with something specific like 
""Coordination of Haiti Mapping"

>
> An OSM-emergency group has been established externally already:
> http://groups.google.com/group/osm-emergency
>
> I too agree with Frederik and couldn't have put it better.
>
> Cheers,
> Lars
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]

2010-01-27 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Frederik Ramm wrote:
> 
> [..]
> 
> I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer 
> helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can 
> then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.

I would rather say osm-crisis or osm-relief - keep it general so that it
will reach motivated individual next time such an emergency arises.


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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]

2010-01-27 Thread Eric Marsden
> "rn" == Pieren   writes:

  rn> +1 for an osm-haiti or a more general "osm-relief" mailing-list.

  Perhaps it could be named "osm-crisis", and also serve for license
  change discussions.
  
-- 
Eric Marsden


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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]

2010-01-27 Thread Colin Marquardt
2010/1/27 Adrian Brain 

> Perhaps osm-humanitarian to cover future uses?

I'd vote for this name, because "osm-relief" could be read as
"osm-contours" or something topographical like that.

Cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]

2010-01-27 Thread Lars Francke
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 17:58, Pieren  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:
>>
>> I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer
>> helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can
>> then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.
>
> You say exactly what I'm thinking since a couple of days, but more
> diplomatically.
> +1 for an osm-haiti or a more general "osm-relief" mailing-list.

An OSM-emergency group has been established externally already:
http://groups.google.com/group/osm-emergency

I too agree with Frederik and couldn't have put it better.

Cheers,
Lars

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]

2010-01-27 Thread Adrian Brain
+1 from me too.

Perhaps osm-humanitarian to cover future uses?

Adrian 
osmapb1


--- On Wed, 27/1/10, Pieren  wrote:

From: Pieren 
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]
To: "Frederik Ramm" 
Cc: "OSM-talk" 
Date: Wednesday, 27 January, 2010, 16:58

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:



I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer

helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can

then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.

You say exactly what I'm thinking since a couple of days, but more 
diplomatically.
+1 for an osm-haiti or a more general "osm-relief" mailing-list. 


Pieren


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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]

2010-01-27 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Frederik Ramm  wrote:

>
> I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer
> helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can
> then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.
>

You say exactly what I'm thinking since a couple of days, but more
diplomatically.
+1 for an osm-haiti or a more general "osm-relief" mailing-list.

Pieren
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]

2010-01-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:
> Note to administrator : would it be possible to raise the size limit for 
> this crisis situation?

Maybe it is also prudent to recognise that while there is a crisis in 
Haiti, there is mapping as usual in many other regions of the world - 
some of it in regions that might become the next victim of a natural 
disaster.

While most of us want to help where we can, OSM as a whole must not 
grind to a halt because there is a crisis in Haiti. There are tens of 
thousands of active OSMers around the world, and 400 of them are active 
in Haiti. Every Haiti message on this mailing list reaches a very high 
number of people who are not interested, and it is their right to be not 
interested - they are doing good work elsewhere.

I think it is time for an osm-haiti mailing list - or if every OSMer 
helping in Haiti is already on crisismappers, then that's ok too, we can 
then simply stop crossposting and forwarding everything here.

Bye
Frederik


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[OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Coordination for Haiti Mapping]

2010-01-27 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Note to administrator : would it be possible to raise the size limit for 
this crisis situation ?


This message bounced for being 46605 b with a limit of 40 kb

Preparing pointers to attachments does not seem to me to be the best use 
of my time either (I had rather be mapping, for instance)


Jean-Guilhem


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Sujet : Re: [OSM-talk] Coordination for Haiti Mapping
Date :  Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:15:11 +0100
De :Jean-Guilhem Cailton 
Pour :  Shadrock Roberts 
Copie à :   talk@openstreetmap.org
Références :



Shadrock,

I have proposed
"Project Management" in Task/Ideas

and a shared spreadsheet
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0An_LB2U4zHBzdFRNR3dGczQycnZUcTJ6S2JjZ1o2dGc&hl=en

I am aware of the osm-matrix (don't know how it works), but if i had to 
organize a group / groups, i think the flexibility of live shared 
spreadsheet would be nice.


I don't know about the OSM quality process either.

Who has experience in organizing and coordinating mapping ?

How to hierarchically structure the work ? Along Areas first, Themes first ?

Jean-Guilhem



Shadrock Roberts a écrit :
I have a group of volunteers who will be mapping on Jan. 30 and am 
wondering:
1.) If there is any more up-to-date needs for mapping than the general 
requests on the wiki;
2.) If there are any plans to develop a more comprehensive ticketing 
system than what is suggested on the wiki (essentially monitoring 
CrisisMappers); and
3.) What is the best way to avoid duplicating efforts? I am aware of 
two other groups that may be mapping this weekend and would like to 
find a way to coordinate among groups.


This is my first posting so I apologize if this isn't the appropriate 
forum. I've been doing my best to come up to speed via the wiki and 
the listserv but I've still got a long way to go...


Best,
Shadrock Roberts



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