Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?
BBC source NGA, Nepalese government ?? http://nepal.nga.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/74deb0f5eb6f4f7099f8f24cc176d5f9_3 IDP Camps Nepal April 29th 2015 - IDP_Camps (2111) - Production : 04/28/2015 to 04/29/2015 - Metadata IDP Camps Nepal April 29th 2015 - Licensing No license specified - Source http://ngamaps.geointapps.org/arcgis/rest/services/NEPAL/Latest_NGA_Damage_Assessments/MapServer/3 and , maybe related : Nepal, OSM License, and the NGA http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MapMakinMeyers/diary/34878 Imre 2015-05-01 23:53 GMT+02:00 Robert Banick rban...@gmail.com: This: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32551499 Map at bottom — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: same problem with me. Pierre -- *De :* Simon Poole si...@poole.ch *À :* talk@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Vendredi 1 mai 2015 17h44 *Objet :* Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation? Robert, the link doesn't seem to work (not just for me) Simon ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?
Harry could you assure that they interview KLL ? I agree with Simon. This would be the more beneficial for OSM. regard Pierre De : Simon Poole si...@poole.ch À : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 1 mai 2015 18h14 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation? Correct link worked now. I'm not aware that anybody in the LWG has a BBC contact, but Harry Wood from the CWG (and HOT) should have one. It is one of the cases were more benefit is likely to be had by getting the BBC to do a piece on OpenStreetMap, KLL and the volunteers that are supporting the aid efforts by remote mapping. Getting attribution in an article that will be somewhere in the archives tomorrow doesn't really help anybody, and will potentially just end in disagreement because the provience of the data is likely difficult to actually trace, better strategy to have BBC owe us one. Simon ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?
Agreed with all the above. No sense coming across very small in a disaster, but it is an opportunity to tell our story. Whether the BBC bites or not is really out of our control. — Sent from Mailbox On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Harry could you assure that they interview KLL ? I agree with Simon. This would be the more beneficial for OSM. regard Pierre De : Simon Poole si...@poole.ch À : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 1 mai 2015 18h14 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation? Correct link worked now. I'm not aware that anybody in the LWG has a BBC contact, but Harry Wood from the CWG (and HOT) should have one. It is one of the cases were more benefit is likely to be had by getting the BBC to do a piece on OpenStreetMap, KLL and the volunteers that are supporting the aid efforts by remote mapping. Getting attribution in an article that will be somewhere in the archives tomorrow doesn't really help anybody, and will potentially just end in disagreement because the provience of the data is likely difficult to actually trace, better strategy to have BBC owe us one. Simon ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?
Correct link worked now. I'm not aware that anybody in the LWG has a BBC contact, but Harry Wood from the CWG (and HOT) should have one. It is one of the cases were more benefit is likely to be had by getting the BBC to do a piece on OpenStreetMap, KLL and the volunteers that are supporting the aid efforts by remote mapping. Getting attribution in an article that will be somewhere in the archives tomorrow doesn't really help anybody, and will potentially just end in disagreement because the provience of the data is likely difficult to actually trace, better strategy to have BBC owe us one. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?
Hi All, I was reading the below linked article on the BBC today and came across the map. It looks like they’re using OSM-derived internally displaced person (IDP) camp data without attribution. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/20039682 Based on what I’m reading in the relevant coordination channels it appears that HOT / Kathmandu Living Labs are one of the main sources for IDP damage. This is confirmed by the obvious square shape of the southern camps shown. The shape appears to align with bounds of HOT task #1008. http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1008 Likely this is an honest mistake from a BBC reporter who sourced the derived data from the Nepali government. Nonetheless it’s a violation and should be fixed. Is there anyone with BBC contacts who could try to have this sorted? I’ve written them through the generic Contact button but personal contacts are always quicker. Best, Robert — Sent from Mailbox___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?
They will have to pay an interview for this :) Pierre De : Robert Banick rban...@gmail.com À : OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org; hot h...@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 1 mai 2015 17h18 Objet : [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation? Hi All, I was reading the below linked article on the BBC today and came across the map. It looks like they’re using OSM-derived internally displaced person (IDP) camp data without attribution. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/20039682 Based on what I’m reading in the relevant coordination channels it appears that HOT / Kathmandu Living Labs are one of the main sources for IDP damage. This is confirmed by the obvious square shape of the southern camps shown. The shape appears to align with bounds of HOT task #1008. http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1008 Likely this is an honest mistake from a BBC reporter who sourced the derived data from the Nepali government. Nonetheless it’s a violation and should be fixed. Is there anyone with BBC contacts who could try to have this sorted? I’ve written them through the generic Contact button but personal contacts are always quicker. Best,Robert — Sent from Mailbox ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?
Is that news article link still valid ? On 1 May 2015 at 22:18, Robert Banick rban...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I was reading the below linked article on the BBC today and came across the map. It looks like they’re using OSM-derived internally displaced person (IDP) camp data without attribution. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/20039682 Based on what I’m reading in the relevant coordination channels it appears that HOT / Kathmandu Living Labs are one of the main sources for IDP damage. This is confirmed by the obvious square shape of the southern camps shown. The shape appears to align with bounds of HOT task #1008. http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1008 Likely this is an honest mistake from a BBC reporter who sourced the derived data from the Nepali government. Nonetheless it’s a violation and should be fixed. Is there anyone with BBC contacts who could try to have this sorted? I’ve written them through the generic Contact button but personal contacts are always quicker. Best, Robert — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?
Robert, the link doesn't seem to work (not just for me) Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?
On 01/05/2015 22:18, Robert Banick wrote: Hi All, I was reading the below linked article on the BBC today and came across the map. It looks like they’re using OSM-derived internally displaced person (IDP) camp data without attribution. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/20039682 Looks like that story's moved. I just see Contact BBC News online - help, feedback and complaints. Can you link to the current URL? Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?
same problem with me. Pierre De : Simon Poole si...@poole.ch À : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 1 mai 2015 17h44 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation? Robert, the link doesn't seem to work (not just for me) Simon ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?
Hi all, Sorry my internet cut out midway through writing the email and I got turned around finding the link. Im on my phone now and it's a bit clumsy to get the link, but Ii's the front page article on Nepal on the BBC World website. Robert — Sent from Mailbox On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:46 PM, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 01/05/2015 22:18, Robert Banick wrote: Hi All, I was reading the below linked article on the BBC today and came across the map. It looks like they’re using OSM-derived internally displaced person (IDP) camp data without attribution. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/20039682 Looks like that story's moved. I just see Contact BBC News online - help, feedback and complaints. Can you link to the current URL? Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?
This: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32551499 Map at bottom — Sent from Mailbox On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: same problem with me. Pierre De : Simon Poole si...@poole.ch À : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Vendredi 1 mai 2015 17h44 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation? Robert, the link doesn't seem to work (not just for me) Simon ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] BBC License Violation?
On 1 May 2015 at 22:53, Robert Banick rban...@gmail.com wrote: This: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32551499 Map at bottom Not sure it's a BBC issue if they've had the image in good faith. -- Mike. @millomweb https://sites.google.com/site/millomweb/index/introduction - For all your info on Millom and South Copeland via *the area's premier website - * *currently unavailable due to ongoing harassment of me, my family, property pets* TCs https://sites.google.com/site/pmailkeey/e-mail ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
