Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

[Lambertus]

Gervase Markham wrote:
> On 07/04/09 18:32, Jani Patanen wrote:
>> Actually, for a while now mkgmap has been able to create maps where you
>> can search for streetnames.
> 
> Brilliant! Are there docs on this anywhere?
> 
The docs are currently mostly in the code: http://www.mkgmap.org.uk/

I guess most of the routable garmin map providers will update Mkgmap 
often so they are likely to contain the searchable street data section. 
I'm trying to keep up with developments with my worldwide routable 
Garmin maps: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php

Mkgmap version used for the current maps: r991


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Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

[Gervase Markham]

On 07/04/09 18:32, Jani Patanen wrote:
> Actually, for a while now mkgmap has been able to create maps where you
> can search for streetnames.

Brilliant! Are there docs on this anywhere?

Gerv


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Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

[Someoneelse]

I couldn't help but smile when I read through your post quickly.  I read:

> Can be  
> used while driving easily. 

and

> cons: crashes. 

(!)


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Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

[Jani Patanen]

>> The Garmin eTrex Legend HCx

> I'm pretty happy with mine. Although the Garmin format has not yet been 
> reverse-engineered fully; you can't search by street name or postcode, 
> which makes it rather fiddly for doing journeys even if you have the 
> routable maps. And the map redraw speed is pretty slow at low zoom.

Actually, for a while now mkgmap has been able to create maps where you
can search for streetnames.

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Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

[Apollinaris Schoell]

for osm the one of the best options is a PDA with OSMTracker 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmtracker
You can do voice recording, hot keys, pictures to enter POI. Can be  
used while driving easily. JOSM supports the gpx with linked voice POI.
ideally used on a PDA with built in GPS.
pros: easy POI entry, supports gpx and nmea logging, map tile download  
when online or offline to SD cards. easy to customize POI keys for  
individual use models
cons: crashes. can't tell if it is more a win mobile problem or  
OSMtracker. rugged PDA are expensive. For outdoor use a Garmin or  
logger is the better choice



On 6 Apr 2009, at 14:06 , Roozbeh Pournader wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I wish to buy the best (amateur) GPS for contributing to OSM. (I have
> no plan to use the device for anything else other than improving OSM,
> I plan to get something else for my other GPS needs.) I really care
> about accuracy, being able to get a lot of high-quality tracks, and
> being ultra quick with recording a waypoint.
>
> Reading the reviews on the wiki pages, it seems to me that Garmin
> GPSMAP 60Cx is still *the* GPS to get for OSM:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GPS_Reviews
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Garmin
>
> But I am worried that those may be out of date.
>
> So, a few questions:
>
> Is GPSMAP 60Cx still the OSM GPS to get?
>
> Is there any OSM-related reason to try to get a 60CSx (the version
> that has the electronic compass and barometric altimeter)?
>
> Is there anything as good as 60Cx that can also do photos of street
> signs and/or voice recording without sacrificing the quality of the
> tracks and waypoints or the ease of use?
>
> Thanks,
> Roozbeh
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

[Florian Lohoff]

On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 02:06:38PM -0700, Roozbeh Pournader wrote:
> 
> I wish to buy the best (amateur) GPS for contributing to OSM. (I have
> no plan to use the device for anything else other than improving OSM,
> I plan to get something else for my other GPS needs.) I really care
> about accuracy, being able to get a lot of high-quality tracks, and
> being ultra quick with recording a waypoint.
> 

Trackpoints will be recorded continously to SD/MMC Card but setting
a waypoint is much more than one keypress as other GPS toys
allow.

> Reading the reviews on the wiki pages, it seems to me that Garmin
> GPSMAP 60Cx is still *the* GPS to get for OSM:

The GPSMap has a couple advantages over other devices:
- Waterproof - good for surviving a short shower
- Map Display - One can see the results of the mapping
  yesterday which is good once you are not mapping
  in white spaces but rather complete or verify areas.
- Long battery life.

A lot of mappers i know started with a Wintec WBT-201 which
is a matchbox size device - long battery life, 130k trackpoints,
usb, bluetooth and linux compatible (good linux ui to configure
logging settings). Those who went OSM fanatic switched to
the GPSMap 60.

Flo
-- 
Florian Lohoff  f...@rfc822.org +49-171-2280134
Those who would give up a little freedom to get a little 
  security shall soon have neither - Benjamin Franklin


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Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

[Gervase Markham]

On 07/04/09 09:42, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote:
> The Garmin eTrex Legend HCx was what we went for for running mapping parties
> and they are very popular with attendees. Very easy to use, has a high
> sensitivity receiver (a must), displays OSM mapping, logs a new track file
> to the SD card every day, will run all day on a pair of AA rechargables
> (2500mhA and above). Plus all the other features of ruggedness, waterproof
> etc etc. At £138 on Amazon including the SD card you actually get a lot of
> bang for your buck.

I'm pretty happy with mine. Although the Garmin format has not yet been 
reverse-engineered fully; you can't search by street name or postcode, 
which makes it rather fiddly for doing journeys even if you have the 
routable maps. And the map redraw speed is pretty slow at low zoom.

Gerv


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Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

[Ed Avis]

Roozbeh Pournader  gmail.com> writes:

>Is GPSMAP 60Cx still the OSM GPS to get?

A 'high sensitivity' GPS receiver is a good thing but this is not the only one
available. 
 is a
comparison of GPS accuracy in this unit against the eTrex Vista / Legend units
which use a different chipset but are also marketed by Garmin as 'high
sensitivitiy'.

>Is there any OSM-related reason to try to get a 60CSx (the version
>that has the electronic compass and barometric altimeter)?

A compass sounds like it would be useful for OSM mapping.  You could see which
way you're facing and check you are walking in the right direction even when GPS
reception is weak.  However, my experience with the electronic compass in
Garmin's Vista HCx unit has been disappointing.  It doesn't seem to work
accurately unless the unit is held exactly horizontal, and even then it can
still be wrong.  A compass that points the wrong way some of the time is no use
at all.  In the end I turned it off to save battery.

Garmin units don't have any official support for Linux but they do work with
gpsbabel.  On the more upmarket units like the one you mention, you can load OSM
maps such as those available at .  But the
display quality is pretty basic; if you're expecting beautifully rendered Maptik
tiles to appear on your GPS's colour screen you will be disappointed.  Viewing
the map on the device is useful but I still find it necessary to print a paper
copy of the no-names map for the area I'm about to visit.  (I wonder if
 would give better results?)

-- 
Ed Avis 


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Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

[Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)]

The Garmin eTrex Legend HCx was what we went for for running mapping parties
and they are very popular with attendees. Very easy to use, has a high
sensitivity receiver (a must), displays OSM mapping, logs a new track file
to the SD card every day, will run all day on a pair of AA rechargables
(2500mhA and above). Plus all the other features of ruggedness, waterproof
etc etc. At £138 on Amazon including the SD card you actually get a lot of
bang for your buck.

Cheers

Andy

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>Sent: 06 April 2009 10:07 PM
>To: talk@openstreetmap.org
>Subject: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?
>
>Hi all,
>
>I wish to buy the best (amateur) GPS for contributing to OSM. (I have
>no plan to use the device for anything else other than improving OSM,
>I plan to get something else for my other GPS needs.) I really care
>about accuracy, being able to get a lot of high-quality tracks, and
>being ultra quick with recording a waypoint.
>
>Reading the reviews on the wiki pages, it seems to me that Garmin
>GPSMAP 60Cx is still *the* GPS to get for OSM:
>
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GPS_Reviews
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Garmin
>
>But I am worried that those may be out of date.
>
>So, a few questions:
>
>Is GPSMAP 60Cx still the OSM GPS to get?
>
>Is there any OSM-related reason to try to get a 60CSx (the version
>that has the electronic compass and barometric altimeter)?
>
>Is there anything as good as 60Cx that can also do photos of street
>signs and/or voice recording without sacrificing the quality of the
>tracks and waypoints or the ease of use?
>
>Thanks,
>Roozbeh
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

[Elena of Valhalla]

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Cartinus  wrote:
> If you just want to record traces, then a good logger is a cheaper choice. If
> you want to add information to OSM in area's where there is already data,
> then the ability to display OSM maps is very big pro for the GPSMap60 series.

+1 on the first half: a good small logger is excellent to record
traces everywhere and anytime

if the ability to display OSM maps is only seldom needed, a logger
with the ability to send NMEA data via bluetooth and a
cellphone/PDA/netbook may be enough and is cheaper (if you already own
the second part)

-- 
Elena ``of Valhalla''

homepage: http://www.trueelena.org
email: elena.valha...@gmail.com

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Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

[Cartinus]

On Monday 06 April 2009 23:06:38 Roozbeh Pournader wrote:
> Is there any OSM-related reason to try to get a 60CSx (the version
> that has the electronic compass and barometric altimeter)?

No, I've used both. You never need the compass nor GPS height information for 
OSM.

If you just want to record traces, then a good logger is a cheaper choice. If 
you want to add information to OSM in area's where there is already data, 
then the ability to display OSM maps is very big pro for the GPSMap60 series.

The only logger I have experience with: BT-Q1000P, which is MTK based, has a 
lot more problems with urban canyoning than the Garmins I used.

-- 
m.v.g.,
Cartinus

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Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

[Sebastian Hohmann]

Roozbeh Pournader schrieb:
> I wish to buy the best (amateur) GPS for contributing to OSM. (I have
> no plan to use the device for anything else other than improving OSM,
> I plan to get something else for my other GPS needs.) I really care
> about accuracy, being able to get a lot of high-quality tracks, and
> being ultra quick with recording a waypoint.
> 

You could buy a bluetooth-enabled GPS logger and use a PDA or Smartphone 
for waypoint logging. This way you can always keep the GPS receiver at a 
position with good reception, while being able to record waypoints on 
your phone. If you got one with a full keyboard you can easily type on, 
you can also enter Waypoint Names or Descriptions much faster than on 
most GPS devices.

> Is there anything as good as 60Cx that can also do photos of street
> signs and/or voice recording without sacrificing the quality of the
> tracks and waypoints or the ease of use?
> 

TrekBuddy (a J2ME application) supports taking photos and voice 
recording to waypoints, I think. You'd have to check first if those 
features work on the device you want to buy or already have.

Greetings,
Sebastian

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Re: [OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

[Lambertus]

No, if you choose the best logging quality and do not need all the nice 
features for navigation, maximum sturdiness, geocaching etc that the 
Garmin offers, then you'd be better off with a logger with the latest 
Sirf or MTK chipset which also logs DOP data. Much cheaper too.

Roozbeh Pournader wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I wish to buy the best (amateur) GPS for contributing to OSM. (I have
> no plan to use the device for anything else other than improving OSM,
> I plan to get something else for my other GPS needs.) I really care
> about accuracy, being able to get a lot of high-quality tracks, and
> being ultra quick with recording a waypoint.
> 
> Reading the reviews on the wiki pages, it seems to me that Garmin
> GPSMAP 60Cx is still *the* GPS to get for OSM:
> 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GPS_Reviews
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Garmin
> 
> But I am worried that those may be out of date.
> 
> So, a few questions:
> 
> Is GPSMAP 60Cx still the OSM GPS to get?
> 
> Is there any OSM-related reason to try to get a 60CSx (the version
> that has the electronic compass and barometric altimeter)?
> 
> Is there anything as good as 60Cx that can also do photos of street
> signs and/or voice recording without sacrificing the quality of the
> tracks and waypoints or the ease of use?
> 
> Thanks,
> Roozbeh
> 
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[OSM-talk] GPSMAP 60Cx still the best OSM GPS?

[Roozbeh Pournader]

Hi all,

I wish to buy the best (amateur) GPS for contributing to OSM. (I have
no plan to use the device for anything else other than improving OSM,
I plan to get something else for my other GPS needs.) I really care
about accuracy, being able to get a lot of high-quality tracks, and
being ultra quick with recording a waypoint.

Reading the reviews on the wiki pages, it seems to me that Garmin
GPSMAP 60Cx is still *the* GPS to get for OSM:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GPS_Reviews
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Garmin

But I am worried that those may be out of date.

So, a few questions:

Is GPSMAP 60Cx still the OSM GPS to get?

Is there any OSM-related reason to try to get a 60CSx (the version
that has the electronic compass and barometric altimeter)?

Is there anything as good as 60Cx that can also do photos of street
signs and/or voice recording without sacrificing the quality of the
tracks and waypoints or the ease of use?

Thanks,
Roozbeh

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