Re: [OSM-talk] How do you tag a traffic signal that's also a motorway junction?
On Jun 10, 2010, at 5:45 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: highway=motorway_junction with ref=[number] is used whenever there's an exit/junction number, whether or not it's actually on a motorway. But there are some numbered exits that are right at traffic signals, which should be tagged highway=traffic_signals. Examples include http://alpsroads.net/roads/nj/gsp/n10.jpg in south New Jersey (this one has a small separated ramp but another one doesn't), http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NY_9A_north_exit_5.jpg in New York City, and http://gailmommers.50megs.com/pictmission/ny-17-exit-98.htm in upstate New York. How should these be tagged? highway=motorway_junction;traffic_signals? Well it can't be highway=motorway_junction because motorways don't have level crossings, right? This image illustrates your question perfectly. http://alpsroads.net/roads/nj/gsp/n10.jpg Thank you for including it. If this were a motorway_junction (it isn't) the exit number would be in the ref tag on the exit node, so go with that. I would tag the ways as usual, highway=secondary or whatever is appropriate here. highway=traffic_signals ref=10B If that is indeed a flare for the right turn to 657 Eastbound, I might mark the first node of the flare with the ref=10B The ref doesn't mean anything without an associated tag though. motorway_junction is the accepted way to show a numbered exit, even if it isn't attached to a motorway. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How do you tag a traffic signal that's also a motorway junction?
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: highway=motorway_junction with ref=[number] is used whenever there's an exit/junction number, whether or not it's actually on a motorway. But there are some numbered exits that are right at traffic signals, which should be tagged highway=traffic_signals. Examples include http://alpsroads.net/roads/nj/gsp/n10.jpg in south New Jersey (this one has a small separated ramp but another one doesn't), http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NY_9A_north_exit_5.jpg in New York City, and http://gailmommers.50megs.com/pictmission/ny-17-exit-98.htm in upstate New York. How should these be tagged? highway=motorway_junction;traffic_signals? Well it can't be highway=motorway_junction because motorways don't have level crossings, right? This image illustrates your question perfectly. http://alpsroads.net/roads/nj/gsp/n10.jpg Thank you for including it. If this were a motorway_junction (it isn't) the exit number would be in the ref tag on the exit node, so go with that. I would tag the ways as usual, highway=secondary or whatever is appropriate here. highway=traffic_signals ref=10B If that is indeed a flare for the right turn to 657 Eastbound, I might mark the first node of the flare with the ref=10B ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] How do you tag a traffic signal that's also a motorway junction?
highway=motorway_junction with ref=[number] is used whenever there's an exit/junction number, whether or not it's actually on a motorway. But there are some numbered exits that are right at traffic signals, which should be tagged highway=traffic_signals. Examples include http://alpsroads.net/roads/nj/gsp/n10.jpg in south New Jersey (this one has a small separated ramp but another one doesn't), http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:NY_9A_north_exit_5.jpg in New York City, and http://gailmommers.50megs.com/pictmission/ny-17-exit-98.htm in upstate New York. How should these be tagged? highway=motorway_junction;traffic_signals? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How do you tag a traffic signal that's also a motorway junction?
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Well it can't be highway=motorway_junction because motorways don't have level crossings, right? If this were a motorway_junction (it isn't) the exit number would be in the ref tag on the exit node, so go with that. In the US, no; highway=motorways can't have level crossings. But, despite the name, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway_junction is not only for use on motorways. (And renaming it wouldn't help; it would then be a question of how to tag the same node as both traffic_signals and trunk_junction.) I would tag the ways as usual, highway=secondary or whatever is appropriate here. highway=traffic_signals ref=10B To expand on Ian's reply, the ref for an exit number only makes sense when coupled with highway=motorway_junction; some cities number their traffic lights and post these numbers: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jstephenconn/2961191591/ This is what I'd expect from highway=traffic_signals ref=3. This image illustrates your question perfectly. http://alpsroads.net/roads/nj/gsp/n10.jpg Thank you for including it. If that is indeed a flare for the right turn to 657 Eastbound, I might mark the first node of the flare with the ref=10B Yes, it's a flare, making it an imperfect example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=39.085008lon=-74.815164zoom=18layers=B000FTF ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk