Re: [OSM-talk] New statistics on volume of note creation and closing
On 3/3/2015 9:47 AM, Richard Weait wrote: Are notes more-likely to be resolved when a dialogue is possible (non-anonymous)? If the data suggests, for example, that anonymous notes typically take 3 months to resolve, and non-anonymous notes take 36 hours, perhaps that would be sufficient motivation for a note author to leave contact information. Another possible reason is that non-anonymous notes tend to be from more experienced users who leave easier to interpret notes. In that case, there's not much to be done aside from normal measures to guide people to mapping and try to make people return visitors. The solution to inexperience is practice. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New statistics on volume of note creation and closing
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: On 3/3/2015 9:47 AM, Richard Weait wrote: Are notes more-likely to be resolved when a dialogue is possible (non-anonymous)? Another possible reason is that non-anonymous notes tend to be from more experienced users who leave easier to interpret notes. In that case, there's not much to be done aside from normal measures to guide people to mapping and try to make people return visitors. The solution to inexperience is practice. Similarly a note where the user *left* contact info may be a note they are *more* engaged in. This could be resolved with A-B testing. Offer 50% of the anonymous traffic a heavier notes form and see what it does to engagement, quality and closability. I'd be more likely to leave a note on a more complete/credible form, but that's just me. I think a comment back from a mapper saying 'we fixed that' is a *huge incentive *to return to OSM again to see what took place. (See discussion: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/776 ) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New statistics on volume of note creation and closing
On Mar 3, 2015 2:17 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: On 3/3/2015 9:47 AM, Richard Weait wrote: Are notes more-likely to be resolved when a dialogue is possible (non-anonymous)? If the data suggests, for example, that anonymous notes typically take 3 months to resolve, and non-anonymous notes take 36 hours, perhaps that would be sufficient motivation for a note author to leave contact information. Another possible reason is that non-anonymous notes tend to be from more experienced users who leave easier to interpret notes. In that case, there's not much to be done aside from normal measures to guide people to mapping and try to make people return visitors. The solution to inexperience is practice. 1+ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New statistics on volume of note creation and closing
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:58 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: Updated statistics on the note ecosystem, a bit redesigned: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-notes Are notes more-likely to be resolved when a dialogue is possible (non-anonymous)? If the data suggests, for example, that anonymous notes typically take 3 months to resolve, and non-anonymous notes take 36 hours, perhaps that would be sufficient motivation for a note author to leave contact information. The breaking point might not be non- vs. anonymous, but might be non-anonymous and with a responsive author vs. other notes. And it might be difficult to determine when a note is closed with no action vs. when a note is closed because it lead to a positive change to the database. Are people mentioning notes in their changesets? So I guess my question is, what ages are notes when they are closed? :-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New statistics on volume of note creation and closing
Updated statistics on the note ecosystem, a bit redesigned: http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-notes ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] New statistics on volume of note creation and closing
In light of the discussion the volume and quality of note and fixme items, Pascal Neis has whipped up some nice long term data for notes. Hopefully corresponding data on fixme will be possible in the future. http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-notes-overview -- I feel that asking note writers to do more, and to optionally leave contact info, will not significantly reduce note volume. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New statistics on volume of note creation and closing
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: I feel that asking note writers to do more, and to optionally leave contact info, will not significantly reduce note volume. No one's holding you back from proposing (or making) code changes, are they? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] New statistics on volume of note creation and closing
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: No one's holding you back from proposing (or making) code changes, are they? That proposal is already on the table: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/776 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
