Re: [OSM-talk] Question on undelete/restore

2012-11-20 Thread Michael Krämer
Hi Martin,

2012/11/20 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com

 Had a similar problem, this is the ticket:
 https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/8156


Yes, I think that's exactly the problem I've experienced.

Best regards,
  Michael
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Re: [OSM-talk] Question on undelete/restore

2012-11-20 Thread Michael Krämer
So thanks to everybody for the feedback.

In the meanwhile the user of the changeset has agreed to revert all of his
changesets for the area. But on the other hand user zors1843 has reverted
the changeset affecting the coastline. So now I guess I'll simply leave
things as they are - I think any further attempts to revert changesets
would be problematic.

Michael


2012/11/20 Michael Krämer ohr...@gmail.com

 Hi Martin,

 2012/11/20 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com

 Had a similar problem, this is the ticket:
 https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/8156


 Yes, I think that's exactly the problem I've experienced.

 Best regards,
   Michael

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[OSM-talk] Question on undelete/restore

2012-11-19 Thread Michael Krämer

Hi,

using OSM inspector's coastline view I came across a rather large 
missing segement of the coastline. It turned out that a new user has 
accidentially deleted it. He agreed to revert the change and I 
volunteered to take care of it.


As it turns out the changeset (13910261) included more changes to roads 
etc.- 92 ways overall - so reverting would include more than just the 
coastline. To make things even worse there are also some following, 
conflicting changesets. So using the reverter plugin causes quite a 
number of conflicts that I have a hard time to resolve. But just to make 
sure I have contacted the user again because it sounded like he wouldn't 
mind to revert all changs. But the answer is still pending due to 
different time zones.


So I tried to only undelete the way for the coastline using the 
undelete plugin. Trying to do so gives an error on upload as the way 
references deleted nodes. Sounds reasonable but doesn't really help.


Any suggestion how to best get this fixed again?

BTW re-mapping the coastline from Bing is not an option due to clouds...

Thanks,
Michael

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Re: [OSM-talk] Question on undelete/restore

2012-11-19 Thread Pierre Béland
Michael

Looking at ways in the changesets, I found that they were undeleted. It seems 
that Changeset 13937676 by user zors1843 already reverted all of this.

 
Pierre 




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Envoyé le : Lundi 19 novembre 2012 15h10
Objet : [OSM-talk] Question on undelete/restore
 
Hi,

using OSM inspector's coastline view I came across a rather large missing 
segement of the coastline. It turned out that a new user has accidentially 
deleted it. He agreed to revert the change and I volunteered to take care of 
it.

As it turns out the changeset (13910261) included more changes to roads etc.- 
92 ways overall - so reverting would include more than just the coastline. To 
make things even worse there are also some following, conflicting changesets. 
So using the reverter plugin causes quite a number of conflicts that I have a 
hard time to resolve. But just to make sure I have contacted the user again 
because it sounded like he wouldn't mind to revert all changs. But the answer 
is still pending due to different time zones.

So I tried to only undelete the way for the coastline using the undelete 
plugin. Trying to do so gives an error on upload as the way references deleted 
nodes. Sounds reasonable but doesn't really help.

Any suggestion how to best get this fixed again?

BTW re-mapping the coastline from Bing is not an option due to clouds...

Thanks,
Michael

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Re: [OSM-talk] Question on undelete/restore

2012-11-19 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Do you have .osm extracts for the area? A slice from an old regional
extract (or a planet for that matter) would give you the old data.
What area is this?

Cheers,
-Jaakko
On Nov 19, 2012 3:11 PM, Michael Krämer ohr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 using OSM inspector's coastline view I came across a rather large missing
 segement of the coastline. It turned out that a new user has accidentially
 deleted it. He agreed to revert the change and I volunteered to take care
 of it.

 As it turns out the changeset (13910261) included more changes to roads
 etc.- 92 ways overall - so reverting would include more than just the
 coastline. To make things even worse there are also some following,
 conflicting changesets. So using the reverter plugin causes quite a number
 of conflicts that I have a hard time to resolve. But just to make sure I
 have contacted the user again because it sounded like he wouldn't mind to
 revert all changs. But the answer is still pending due to different time
 zones.

 So I tried to only undelete the way for the coastline using the undelete
 plugin. Trying to do so gives an error on upload as the way references
 deleted nodes. Sounds reasonable but doesn't really help.

 Any suggestion how to best get this fixed again?

 BTW re-mapping the coastline from Bing is not an option due to clouds...

 Thanks,
 Michael

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Re: [OSM-talk] Question on undelete/restore

2012-11-19 Thread Pierre Béland
Mikael

The original changeset affected both coastline and administrative boundaries.

We see that 92 ways were modified in the last changeset. From this changeset, 
the better and less damaging solution is probably to identify and undelete ways 
one by one with the Undelete Plugin in 
JOSM. 
Pierre 




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Michael

Looking at ways in the changesets, I found that they were undeleted. It seems 
that Changeset 13937676 by user zors1843 already reverted all of this.

 
Pierre 




 De : Michael Krämer ohr...@gmail.com
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Envoyé le : Lundi 19 novembre 2012 15h10
Objet : [OSM-talk] Question on undelete/restore
 
Hi,

using OSM inspector's coastline view I came across a rather large missing 
segement of the coastline. It turned out that a new user has accidentially 
deleted it. He agreed to revert the change and I volunteered to take care of 
it.

As it turns out the changeset (13910261) included more changes to roads etc.- 
92 ways overall - so reverting would include more than just the coastline. To 
make things even worse there are also some following, conflicting changesets. 
So using the reverter plugin causes quite a number of conflicts that I have a 
hard time to resolve. But just to make sure I have contacted the user again 
because it sounded like he wouldn't mind to revert all changs. But the answer 
is still pending due to different time zones.

So I tried to only undelete the way for the coastline using the undelete 
plugin. Trying to do so gives an error on upload as the way references 
deleted nodes. Sounds reasonable but doesn't
 really help.

Any suggestion how to best get this fixed again?

BTW re-mapping the coastline from Bing is not an option due to clouds...

Thanks,
Michael

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Re: [OSM-talk] Question on undelete/restore

2012-11-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/19 Michael Krämer ohr...@gmail.com:
 So I tried to only undelete the way for the coastline using the undelete
 plugin. Trying to do so gives an error on upload as the way references
 deleted nodes. Sounds reasonable but doesn't really help.


Had a similar problem, this is the ticket:
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/8156

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [OSM-talk] Question on undelete/restore

2012-11-19 Thread Paul Hartmann

On 11/19/2012 09:10 PM, Michael Krämer wrote:

Hi,

using OSM inspector's coastline view I came across a rather large
missing segement of the coastline. It turned out that a new user has
accidentially deleted it. He agreed to revert the change and I
volunteered to take care of it.

As it turns out the changeset (13910261) included more changes to roads
etc.- 92 ways overall - so reverting would include more than just the
coastline. To make things even worse there are also some following,
conflicting changesets. So using the reverter plugin causes quite a
number of conflicts that I have a hard time to resolve. But just to make
sure I have contacted the user again because it sounded like he wouldn't
mind to revert all changs. But the answer is still pending due to
different time zones.

So I tried to only undelete the way for the coastline using the
undelete plugin. Trying to do so gives an error on upload as the way
references deleted nodes. Sounds reasonable but doesn't really help.

Any suggestion how to best get this fixed again?


Have you tried Undelete plugin and then File  'upload selection' just 
for the coastline way?


Paul


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