Re: [OSM-talk] SotM 2020 - Move to virtual conference

[Warin]

On 27/3/20 1:16 am, Christoph Hormann wrote:

On Thursday 26 March 2020, Christine Karch wrote:

the deadline ended a month ago. At the moment it is not planned to
call for additional submissions. We will ask the speakers of
"accepted talks" first, and then see what the feedback is. If we have
too much cancellations, we would make an additional call. But this is
not planned at the moment, just a thought.

As a bit of broader background:  The participants of physical presence
conferences like SotM - and thereby implicitly also those holding the
talks at such conferences - largely belong to one of the following
groups:

* wealthy individuals from around the world who can afford the visit to
the conference from their own pockets.
* employees of companies who pay for them to visit the conference.
* members of the local community from where the conference takes place.
* in small numbers as scholars: Other individuals deemed worthy to be
supported in visiting the conference by people with money and who are
willing to ask for such support and subject themselves to scrutiny for
this.

One of the biggest benefits for having a virual event instead of a
physical presence event would be that presenting something there would
not be limited to the above mentioned groups but would be possible for
a much larger range of people with much lower barriers of entry.

That does not mean the idea presented by Christine as a substitute for
the physical presence conference cancelled in the current situation is
bad.  But i would call it more a virtualized conference.  It does not
make full use of the potential the idea of a completely virtual event
would have.

I would very much like to see more bold endeavours to organize virtual
conferences and other virtual social events in the OSM community that
test and make use of all the potential this has.



+1. Certain environmental benefits too.

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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM 2020 - Move to virtual conference

[Christine Karch]

At the moment I have no idea what we will offer "at the end" as we have
neither experience nor technology. This will develop within the next
weeks. I try to explain. The approach is small-medium-large. This means
we try to establish a small but smoothly running virtual conference on
our own platform. "Small" means at the moment two tracks at two days,
"day" may be extended to evening to have more time zone coverage. At the
moment I also would prefer that the speakers from the official tracks
have pre-recorded talks so that we can be sure it runs.

To be more concrete: the decision at our last meeting was to run with a
open source platform.

If we would fall back to a proprietary platform in worst case (what
means that ower own platform won't run) .. at the moment very unlikely.

If it shows that the performance is good enough we could extend to more
parellel tracks including lightning talks etc.

I hope we can provide lightning talks too :)

p.s. If you are a developer and interested in participating in this
experience please tell (s...@openstreetmap.org). You find our software here:

https://gitlab.com/billowconf/billowconf

Kyle, the maintainer, is part of the local team Cape Town and was mainly
responsible for the video/streaming part of the conference. A cool guy
and a challenging project! For example help by a frontend developer
would be more than welcome, he told me.

Am 26.03.20 um 18:15 schrieb Tobias Knerr:
> On 26.03.20 14:45, Christine Karch wrote:
>> the deadline ended a month ago. At the moment it is not planned to call
>> for additional submissions.
> 
> SotM usually offers numerous slots for Lightning Talks. Will that be the
> case with this virtual conference as well? Spontaneous LT submissions
> might be an opportunity for people who originally didn't submit because
> of the barrier of physical travel.
> 
> Also, thanks to everyone in the SotM team for their work under these
> unusual circumstances!
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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM 2020 - Move to virtual conference

[Tobias Knerr]

On 26.03.20 14:45, Christine Karch wrote:
> the deadline ended a month ago. At the moment it is not planned to call
> for additional submissions.

SotM usually offers numerous slots for Lightning Talks. Will that be the
case with this virtual conference as well? Spontaneous LT submissions
might be an opportunity for people who originally didn't submit because
of the barrier of physical travel.

Also, thanks to everyone in the SotM team for their work under these
unusual circumstances!

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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM 2020 - Move to virtual conference

[Christoph Hormann]

On Thursday 26 March 2020, Christine Karch wrote:
>
> the deadline ended a month ago. At the moment it is not planned to
> call for additional submissions. We will ask the speakers of
> "accepted talks" first, and then see what the feedback is. If we have
> too much cancellations, we would make an additional call. But this is
> not planned at the moment, just a thought.

As a bit of broader background:  The participants of physical presence 
conferences like SotM - and thereby implicitly also those holding the 
talks at such conferences - largely belong to one of the following 
groups:

* wealthy individuals from around the world who can afford the visit to 
the conference from their own pockets.
* employees of companies who pay for them to visit the conference.
* members of the local community from where the conference takes place.
* in small numbers as scholars: Other individuals deemed worthy to be 
supported in visiting the conference by people with money and who are 
willing to ask for such support and subject themselves to scrutiny for 
this.

One of the biggest benefits for having a virual event instead of a 
physical presence event would be that presenting something there would 
not be limited to the above mentioned groups but would be possible for 
a much larger range of people with much lower barriers of entry.

That does not mean the idea presented by Christine as a substitute for 
the physical presence conference cancelled in the current situation is 
bad.  But i would call it more a virtualized conference.  It does not 
make full use of the potential the idea of a completely virtual event 
would have.

I would very much like to see more bold endeavours to organize virtual 
conferences and other virtual social events in the OSM community that 
test and make use of all the potential this has.

-- 
Christoph Hormann
http://www.imagico.de/

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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM 2020 - Move to virtual conference

[Jo]

The reason I'm asking is that I couldn't request a scholarship this year
and SA is too far to travel to at my own expense. Thus, I didn't propose a
talk. If the conference becomes virtual that changes completely.

If things change, I'll most likely (proof)-read it in WeeklyOSM.

Cheers,

Jo

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 2:45 PM Christine Karch 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> the deadline ended a month ago. At the moment it is not planned to call
> for additional submissions. We will ask the speakers of "accepted talks"
> first, and then see what the feedback is. If we have too much
> cancellations, we would make an additional call. But this is not planned
> at the moment, just a thought.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Christine
>
> Am 26.03.20 um 14:41 schrieb Jo:
> > Hi Christine,
> >
> > That's great news, better than to have to cancel it completely anyway.
> >
> > If the conference is virtual, I wouldn't mind submitting a talk for it.
> > Is this still possible?
> >
> > Polyglot
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 1:50 PM Christine Karch  > > wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > SotM 2020 will be a virtual conference!
> >
> > Due to the high infection risk of SARS-COV-2 virus and all its
> > consequences like travel restrictions, cancellation of physical
> > meetings, "social distancing", and more, a physical SotM is not
> possible
> > this year.
> >
> > The local team - who have done great work preparing this conference
> so
> > far - have suggested to change the physical conference to a virtual
> one.
> > This wasn't just an idle talk:  they have already started a cool open
> > source software project - https://gitlab.com/billowconf/billowconf
> for
> > managing this!
> >
> > So the SotM working group adopted this plan, and agreed to have a
> > virtual SotM conference this year instead of a physical one.
> >
> > We know about your disappointment not meeting each other physically
> this
> > year (we are disappointed too), but after a few months of lockdown
> and
> > "social distancing" we are sure we will all be excited to be reading
> and
> > seeing each other in chats and videos. We will share more of the
> > technical plans as the date comes closer.
> >
> > The date of the conference will stay the same, but shortened to two
> > days: 4-5 July 2020. We planned an extended Q session after each
> talk
> > and plenty of free spaces for discussions. So that the OpenStreetMap
> > community can have a great week-end together.
> >
> >
> > Christine
> >
> > on behalf of State of the Map Working Group
> >
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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM 2020 - Move to virtual conference

[Christine Karch]

Hi,

the deadline ended a month ago. At the moment it is not planned to call
for additional submissions. We will ask the speakers of "accepted talks"
first, and then see what the feedback is. If we have too much
cancellations, we would make an additional call. But this is not planned
at the moment, just a thought.

Cheers,

Christine

Am 26.03.20 um 14:41 schrieb Jo:
> Hi Christine,
> 
> That's great news, better than to have to cancel it completely anyway.
> 
> If the conference is virtual, I wouldn't mind submitting a talk for it.
> Is this still possible?
> 
> Polyglot
> 
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 1:50 PM Christine Karch  > wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> SotM 2020 will be a virtual conference!
> 
> Due to the high infection risk of SARS-COV-2 virus and all its
> consequences like travel restrictions, cancellation of physical
> meetings, "social distancing", and more, a physical SotM is not possible
> this year.
> 
> The local team - who have done great work preparing this conference so
> far - have suggested to change the physical conference to a virtual one.
> This wasn't just an idle talk:  they have already started a cool open
> source software project - https://gitlab.com/billowconf/billowconf for
> managing this!
> 
> So the SotM working group adopted this plan, and agreed to have a
> virtual SotM conference this year instead of a physical one.
> 
> We know about your disappointment not meeting each other physically this
> year (we are disappointed too), but after a few months of lockdown and
> "social distancing" we are sure we will all be excited to be reading and
> seeing each other in chats and videos. We will share more of the
> technical plans as the date comes closer.
> 
> The date of the conference will stay the same, but shortened to two
> days: 4-5 July 2020. We planned an extended Q session after each talk
> and plenty of free spaces for discussions. So that the OpenStreetMap
> community can have a great week-end together.
> 
> 
> Christine
> 
> on behalf of State of the Map Working Group
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk] SotM 2020 - Move to virtual conference

[Jo]

Hi Christine,

That's great news, better than to have to cancel it completely anyway.

If the conference is virtual, I wouldn't mind submitting a talk for it. Is
this still possible?

Polyglot

On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 1:50 PM Christine Karch 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> SotM 2020 will be a virtual conference!
>
> Due to the high infection risk of SARS-COV-2 virus and all its
> consequences like travel restrictions, cancellation of physical
> meetings, "social distancing", and more, a physical SotM is not possible
> this year.
>
> The local team - who have done great work preparing this conference so
> far - have suggested to change the physical conference to a virtual one.
> This wasn't just an idle talk:  they have already started a cool open
> source software project - https://gitlab.com/billowconf/billowconf for
> managing this!
>
> So the SotM working group adopted this plan, and agreed to have a
> virtual SotM conference this year instead of a physical one.
>
> We know about your disappointment not meeting each other physically this
> year (we are disappointed too), but after a few months of lockdown and
> "social distancing" we are sure we will all be excited to be reading and
> seeing each other in chats and videos. We will share more of the
> technical plans as the date comes closer.
>
> The date of the conference will stay the same, but shortened to two
> days: 4-5 July 2020. We planned an extended Q session after each talk
> and plenty of free spaces for discussions. So that the OpenStreetMap
> community can have a great week-end together.
>
>
> Christine
>
> on behalf of State of the Map Working Group
>
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[OSM-talk] SotM 2020 - Move to virtual conference

[Christine Karch]

Hi all,

SotM 2020 will be a virtual conference!

Due to the high infection risk of SARS-COV-2 virus and all its
consequences like travel restrictions, cancellation of physical
meetings, "social distancing", and more, a physical SotM is not possible
this year.

The local team - who have done great work preparing this conference so
far - have suggested to change the physical conference to a virtual one.
This wasn't just an idle talk:  they have already started a cool open
source software project - https://gitlab.com/billowconf/billowconf for
managing this!

So the SotM working group adopted this plan, and agreed to have a
virtual SotM conference this year instead of a physical one.

We know about your disappointment not meeting each other physically this
year (we are disappointed too), but after a few months of lockdown and
"social distancing" we are sure we will all be excited to be reading and
seeing each other in chats and videos. We will share more of the
technical plans as the date comes closer.

The date of the conference will stay the same, but shortened to two
days: 4-5 July 2020. We planned an extended Q session after each talk
and plenty of free spaces for discussions. So that the OpenStreetMap
community can have a great week-end together.


Christine

on behalf of State of the Map Working Group

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