Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-15 Thread Tobias Knerr
Hi, I would like to support this feedback because my impression is very
similar:

On 13.11.2013 11:58, Peter Barth wrote:
 
 * When I move and zoom the map I occasionally get a Loading...-text in
   the textbox, which makes the Welcome...-text bounce up and down.
   This is annoying.
 
 * The color/design of login/signup-buttons is too light so that it looks
   like they're deactivated. I'd like to have them darker.
 
 * Imho there should be a way to remove the Welcome-textbox, too. (Didn't
   check if it vanishes for registered users)

I would especially like to point out that mappers using offline editors
are often not logged into osm.org and that I do not assume that
non-editing users should create accounts.

Nevertheless, many thanks the developers for the effort they have put
into our project's website!

Tobias

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Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-13 Thread Peter Barth
Hi,

Rob Nickerson schrieb:
 Please take a minute or two to give it a try – both positive feedback and
 constructive criticism is welcomed.

overall I like the new design. It's cleaner and I have more visible map.
However, I also have some smaller notes (and bugs?!).

* After search I get the search results. Clicking on a result makes the
  results disappear (however, a white empty stripe stays) and the map
  does not jump to the city I searched

* When I move and zoom the map I occasionally get a Loading...-text in
  the textbox, which makes the Welcome...-text bounce up and down.
  This is annoying.

* The color/design of login/signup-buttons is too light so that it looks
  like they're deactivated. I'd like to have them darker.

* Imho there should be a way to remove the Welcome-textbox, too. (Didn't
  check if it vanishes for registered users)

* History mostly always gives No changesets in this area for areas
  smaller than whole europe

Regards,
Peda

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Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-13 Thread rainerU
The text OpenStreetMap is a free and editable map of the world maintained by an
active community of contributors. has always been on the main page and has
never been correct because it repeats one of the main misunderstandings about
OSM. Now that this text is the only one on the front page it is time to fix
this: OSM is not a map but a database.

Rainer


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Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-13 Thread Christian Quest
+1 !

When I present OSM to local authorities, I usually start with a joke... in
OpenStreetMap only one word is right: open

street ? whe're not doing only street mapping

map ? we're not only making maps


Changing OSM's name is way too late, but at least we should have a clear
statement about not only streets and not only map(s)...




2013/11/13 rainerU ra...@sfr.fr

 The text OpenStreetMap is a free and editable map of the world maintained
 by an
 active community of contributors. has always been on the main page and has
 never been correct because it repeats one of the main misunderstandings
 about
 OSM. Now that this text is the only one on the front page it is time to fix
 this: OSM is not a map but a database.

 Rainer


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Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-13 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Peter Barth osm-t...@won2.de wrote:

 * History mostly always gives No changesets in this area for areas
   smaller than whole europe


This is because the test website uses a completely separate database from
the main OSM website, except for Nominatim search results and the tiles. So
there is no changeset almost everywhere.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-13 Thread Daniel Westergren
As a rather new user I welcome a modernized start page, as well as better
ways of introducing new users. I avoided OSM for long, although being a
map-interested geek, due to a site looking out-dated and too steep learning
curve not really knowing where to start.

Rather than saying it's a database (even Google Maps is a database,
presented as a map, although more or less homogenous), maybe add something
to describe that there is not ONE map, but the data can be used to produce
any kind of map-related data and render maps for different purposes. Refer
to the imagination of the visitor.

Or why not use the description on the About page: *OpenStreetMap powers
map data on hundreds of web sites, mobile apps, and hardware devices*?

I agree with others about importance to consult sight-impaired users,
removing urban-centred references like subway stations, keeping data
up-to-date not being the main agenda, export needing explanation and that a
Help link should be more prominent (put it where Export is now and put
Export where the Help is now, as Export is not something most people would
know how to use anyway).

/Daniel


2013/11/13 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com

 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Peter Barth osm-t...@won2.de wrote:

 * History mostly always gives No changesets in this area for areas
   smaller than whole europe


 This is because the test website uses a completely separate database from
 the main OSM website, except for Nominatim search results and the tiles. So
 there is no changeset almost everywhere.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-13 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Personally, I want to congratulate and thank everyone who has put countless
hours into this redesign over the last few months. This is a significant
improvement over our current homepage and helps with the very serious issue
that OSM simply looked *dated*. This is a beautiful, usable site, which is
important not just for aesthetics, but also because of the competence it
communicates. In addition, it's quite lovely on a mobile browser, which was
a pleasant surprise!

Great work, everyone. I (we!) really appreciate the work you've done!

Cheers,
Kathleen




On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Daniel Westergren wes...@gmail.com wrote:

 As a rather new user I welcome a modernized start page, as well as better
 ways of introducing new users. I avoided OSM for long, although being a
 map-interested geek, due to a site looking out-dated and too steep learning
 curve not really knowing where to start.

 Rather than saying it's a database (even Google Maps is a database,
 presented as a map, although more or less homogenous), maybe add something
 to describe that there is not ONE map, but the data can be used to produce
 any kind of map-related data and render maps for different purposes. Refer
 to the imagination of the visitor.

 Or why not use the description on the About page: *OpenStreetMap powers
 map data on hundreds of web sites, mobile apps, and hardware devices*?

 I agree with others about importance to consult sight-impaired users,
 removing urban-centred references like subway stations, keeping data
 up-to-date not being the main agenda, export needing explanation and that a
 Help link should be more prominent (put it where Export is now and put
 Export where the Help is now, as Export is not something most people would
 know how to use anyway).

 /Daniel


 2013/11/13 Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com

 On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Peter Barth osm-t...@won2.de wrote:

 * History mostly always gives No changesets in this area for areas
   smaller than whole europe


 This is because the test website uses a completely separate database from
 the main OSM website, except for Nominatim search results and the tiles. So
 there is no changeset almost everywhere.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-13 Thread Robert Kaiser

Rob Nickerson schrieb:

Today the updated design for the main OpenStreetMap.org website is nearly
ready to be rolled out. You can view a demo at
redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org


First of all, the new design looks really nice. And there's a way to get 
to the search function on a mobile device now! \o/


But I have two points I don't like that much:
1) The Box underneath the search is a distraction once I start looking 
around on the map, please provide a way to collapse it.
2) One of my main reasons to call up the OSM site is often to get to the 
wiki, can it be made more swiftly available? It could even be behind a 
Hamburger button like the search etc. is on mobile (just not requiring 
another page load).


Thanks for all the work!

Robert Kaiser



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[Talk-br] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-13 Thread Arlindo Pereira
Para quem não acompanha a lista internacional, está se planejando um
redesign da página inicial do projeto, e o autor espera sugestões e
críticas construtivas.

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From: Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:05 PM
Subject: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
To: OpenStreetMap t...@openstreetmap.org


(The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change
to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive
feedback)

Hi All,

Today the updated design for the main OpenStreetMap.org website is nearly
ready to be rolled out. You can view a demo at
redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org and you can read about the latest
changes on the “pull request” at:

https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/498#issuecomment-28309700

This is the cumulation of many months of work starting with Saman's
presentation at State of the Map US 2013. Obviously I realise that not
everyone has the time to search for all the background in the mailing lists
and github pull request so to help I have collated the video and slides
from both SotM US 2013 and SotM 2013 at
http://2013.stateofthemap.org/blog/upcoming-changes-openstreetmaporg-website/

Please take a minute or two to give it a try – both positive feedback and
constructive criticism is welcomed.

Regards,
RobJN

Final acceptance is by the OpenStreetMap Foundation and it's Working
Groups. The work of the Foundation and the Working Groups is explained at:
http://2013.stateofthemap.org/blog/work-openstreetmap-foundation/

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-12 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Forwarding this email from the main mailing list.

Take note that this is a big redesign of the OSM website! (It may or may
not be accepted.)

Please do visit the test website at redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org and
check for bugs or improvement points. (You need to create a new account
since this instance uses a different database.)
http://redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org


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From: Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:05 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
To: OpenStreetMap t...@openstreetmap.org


(The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change
to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive
feedback)

Hi All,

Today the updated design for the main OpenStreetMap.org website is nearly
ready to be rolled out. You can view a demo at
redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org and you can read about the latest
changes on the “pull request” at:

https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/498#issuecomment-28309700

This is the cumulation of many months of work starting with Saman's
presentation at State of the Map US 2013. Obviously I realise that not
everyone has the time to search for all the background in the mailing lists
and github pull request so to help I have collated the video and slides
from both SotM US 2013 and SotM 2013 at
http://2013.stateofthemap.org/blog/upcoming-changes-openstreetmaporg-website/

Please take a minute or two to give it a try – both positive feedback and
constructive criticism is welcomed.

Regards,
RobJN

Final acceptance is by the OpenStreetMap Foundation and it's Working
Groups. The work of the Foundation and the Working Groups is explained at:
http://2013.stateofthemap.org/blog/work-openstreetmap-foundation/
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[OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-12 Thread Rob Nickerson
(The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change
to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive
feedback)

Hi All,

Today the updated design for the main OpenStreetMap.org website is nearly
ready to be rolled out. You can view a demo at
redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org and you can read about the latest
changes on the “pull request” at:

https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/498#issuecomment-28309700

This is the cumulation of many months of work starting with Saman's
presentation at State of the Map US 2013. Obviously I realise that not
everyone has the time to search for all the background in the mailing lists
and github pull request so to help I have collated the video and slides
from both SotM US 2013 and SotM 2013 at
http://2013.stateofthemap.org/blog/upcoming-changes-openstreetmaporg-website/

Please take a minute or two to give it a try – both positive feedback and
constructive criticism is welcomed.

Regards,
RobJN

Final acceptance is by the OpenStreetMap Foundation and it's Working
Groups. The work of the Foundation and the Working Groups is explained at:
http://2013.stateofthemap.org/blog/work-openstreetmap-foundation/
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Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website

2013-11-12 Thread Rob Nickerson
I should add that the test server running at the link below is separate
from the rest of the osm.org website. As such, you will need to set up a
new user account if you want to test out how the website functions for
logged in users.

http://redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org

(I'm sure someone will correct me if I have got this mixed up)


On 12 November 2013 23:05, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote:

 (The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change
 to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive
 feedback)

 Hi All,

 Today the updated design for the main OpenStreetMap.org website is nearly
 ready to be rolled out. You can view a demo at
 redesign.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org and you can read about the latest
 changes on the “pull request” at:


 https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/498#issuecomment-28309700

 This is the cumulation of many months of work starting with Saman's
 presentation at State of the Map US 2013. Obviously I realise that not
 everyone has the time to search for all the background in the mailing lists
 and github pull request so to help I have collated the video and slides
 from both SotM US 2013 and SotM 2013 at
 http://2013.stateofthemap.org/blog/upcoming-changes-openstreetmaporg-website/

 Please take a minute or two to give it a try – both positive feedback and
 constructive criticism is welcomed.

 Regards,
 RobJN

 Final acceptance is by the OpenStreetMap Foundation and it's Working
 Groups. The work of the Foundation and the Working Groups is explained at:
 http://2013.stateofthemap.org/blog/work-openstreetmap-foundation/

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