Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-26 Thread Fabian Schmidt


Am 26.07.11 schrieb Michael Kugelmann:

Once more: my original email was a question/request to the foundation and/or 
server admins. Please set up a (almost) realtime tool/server or support 
Fabian to get his server on realtime mode.


The LWG has enough work without developping tools, but as you can read in 
https://docs.google.com/View?id=dd9g3qjp_122fxn8g2ck they fulfilled your 
request. And for the admin a broken raid controller is fortunately more 
important.


Turning knifes is a strange way to try to motivate people ...


Fabian.

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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-25 Thread Fabian Schmidt


Am 23.07.11 schrieb Michael Kugelmann:

I for my personnal view think that's way too slow for current demands: we 
should see at least a daily update for the demands of the current work which 
is necessary to replace ways. Is there a way to speed up e.g. by getting 
closer to the main database or so?


On Saturday the update to the recent full planet dump finished, so the 
data is now from June.


A speed up depends on the way the diffs work. Can sbd. tell me whether the 
daily/hourly/minutely diffs contain all changesets of the day/... or only 
the last version per object?



Beste regards,

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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-25 Thread Michael Kugelmann

On 23.07.2011 18:35, I wrote:
I for my personnal view think that's way too slow for current demands: 
we should see at least a daily update for the demands of the current 
work which is necessary to replace ways. Is there a way to speed up 
e.g. by getting closer to the main database or so?


No comment at all? No idea from the developers or the server oriented 
guys?

Or should we move this discussion to the dev list?


Best regards,
Michael.


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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-25 Thread Oleg
Ok, now I see! Thanks for explanation!

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On 21 лип. 2011, at 05:55, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:

 You know what would be perfect? If this map had the data layer as seen
 on osm.org. Then you could easily look up the details of ways you want
 to investigate.
 
 Toby
 
 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 The colors start at zoom 12. But if the area hasn't been viewed before
 it may take a while to render the overlay tiles, especially with it
 being hit by a bunch of us at the same time because of a link being
 shared on a large mailing list :)
 
 Toby
 
 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Oleg gel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Chrome, latest I believe. Any zoom limits?
 
 2011/7/21 Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de
 
 Am 21.07.2011 00:00, schrieb Oleg:
 
 hmmm, can't figure out if it works - looks like regular OSM tiles, can't
 see any status coloring... - any permalink?
 
 The information is visible in a second layer above the mapnik layer. Which
 system/browser do you use?
 
 
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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-25 Thread Ed Loach
Shu asked:

 Can someone please tell me the meaning of the colours in
 Potlatch2 license status option?

Checking the source, (from StatusFetcher.as):

//  if all users are yes or auto, status is 'ok'
(green)
//  if first user is no, status is 'no' (red)
//  if any other users are no, status is 'partial'
(softer red)
//  otherwise, status is 'unsure' (yellow)

Although in theory I guess the colours could depend on the
individual deployments, I think this is what is used at osm.org

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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-25 Thread SomeoneElse

On 25/07/2011 08:53, Michael Kugelmann wrote:

On 23.07.2011 18:35, I wrote:
I for my personnal view think that's way too slow for current 
demands: we should see at least a daily update for the demands of the 
current work which is necessary to replace ways. Is there a way to 
speed up e.g. by getting closer to the main database or so?


No comment at all? No idea from the developers or the server 
oriented guys?

Or should we move this discussion to the dev list?


You're entirely at liberty to write something yourself :-)

Cheers,
Andy


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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-25 Thread Michael Kugelmann

On 25.07.2011 09:47,  Fabian Schmidt wrote:

Am 23.07.11 schrieb Michael Kugelmann:
I for my personnal view think that's way too slow for current 
demands: we should see at least a daily update for the demands of the 
current work which is necessary to replace ways. Is there a way to 
speed up e.g. by getting closer to the main database or so?


On Saturday the update to the recent full planet dump finished, so the 
data is now from June.


A speed up depends on the way the diffs work. Can sbd. tell me whether 
the daily/hourly/minutely diffs contain all changesets of the day/... 
or only the last version per object?


to do a clarification and to avoid possible misunderstandings:
I'm happy that some persons spend a lot of effort on tools like Fabian did.
But from my personal point of view such tools could/should be provided 
by the foundation and therefor located within the official OSM servers 
with a very close link to the database.
I would be happy if the whole licence change to OBDL would be finished 
soon. But therefor in the current phase of reconciliation we need 
appropriate tools, in that special case fast tools who give a quick 
response on the work.


Once more: my original email was a question/request to the foundation 
and/or server admins. Please set up a (almost) realtime tool/server or 
support Fabian to get his server on realtime mode.

Maybe further technical discussions should move to the dev list.


Best regards,
Michael.


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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-25 Thread Robin Paulson
On 21 July 2011 04:54, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
 Color-coded map of ODbL status
 http://osm.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/map/

accepted the odbl? has anyone voted on that yet?

or do you mean accepted the CT?

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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-23 Thread Michael Kugelmann

Am 21.07.2011 10:28, schrieb Fabian Schmidt:
So, a way will change it's colour after a user accepts the license. 
But it will stay in the old colour for some weeks if the way is 
recreated with a new ID.


I for my personnal view think that's way too slow for current demands: 
we should see at least a daily update for the demands of the current 
work which is necessary to replace ways. Is there a way to speed up e.g. 
by getting closer to the main database or so?



Best regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-21 Thread Fabian Schmidt


Am 20.07.11 schrieb Andrew Guertin:


http://osm.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/map/


Is this using old data?


Yes. The license data is updated three times per day, but the map data 
including the object history is still from April. An update to the data of 
the recent full planet dump from June is in progress.


So, a way will change it's colour after a user accepts the license. But it 
will stay in the old colour for some weeks if the way is recreated with a 
new ID.



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[OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-20 Thread Richard Weait
Color-coded map of ODbL status
http://osm.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/map/

list your favourites:

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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-20 Thread IgnacioZ
Hi, what do the different colors mean?

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:

 Color-coded map of ODbL status
 http://osm.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/map/

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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-20 Thread Frederik Ramm

Hi,

IgnacioZ wrote:

Hi, what do the different colors mean?


Scroll down for an explanation.

Bye
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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-20 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
 Color-coded map of ODbL status
 http://osm.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/map/

The problem with this ODbL map is that it only shows the status of
highways. No nodes, other ways, nor relations.

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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-20 Thread Steve Coast

does it work outside of the EUish? Not getting any joy in Seattle.

On 7/20/2011 9:54 AM, Richard Weait wrote:

Color-coded map of ODbL status
http://osm.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/map/

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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-20 Thread Steve Coast

seems to work now, just a delay rendering :-)

would be nice to link this to something which tells me the usernames too 
in the bbox



On 7/20/2011 10:58 AM, Steve Coast wrote:

does it work outside of the EUish? Not getting any joy in Seattle.

On 7/20/2011 9:54 AM, Richard Weait wrote:

Color-coded map of ODbL status
http://osm.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/map/

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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-20 Thread Andrew Guertin
On 07/20/2011 12:54 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
 Color-coded map of ODbL status
 http://osm.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/map/

Is this using old data? I've spent the last few months cleaning up road
centerlines, names, etc. in my area, and the overlay looks like it
doesn't have some changes from May 1, but it does from March 12.

Also, what's the meaning of the accepted or declined etc. colors?

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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-20 Thread Oleg
hmmm, can't figure out if it works - looks like regular OSM tiles, can't see
any status coloring... - any permalink?

2011/7/20 Steve Coast st...@asklater.com

 seems to work now, just a delay rendering :-)

 would be nice to link this to something which tells me the usernames too in
 the bbox



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 does it work outside of the EUish? Not getting any joy in Seattle.

 On 7/20/2011 9:54 AM, Richard Weait wrote:

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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-20 Thread Michael Kugelmann

Am 21.07.2011 00:00, schrieb Oleg:
hmmm, can't figure out if it works - looks like regular OSM tiles, 
can't see any status coloring... - any permalink?


The information is visible in a second layer above the mapnik layer. 
Which system/browser do you use?



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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-20 Thread Oleg
Chrome, latest I believe. Any zoom limits?

2011/7/21 Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de

 Am 21.07.2011 00:00, schrieb Oleg:

  hmmm, can't figure out if it works - looks like regular OSM tiles, can't
 see any status coloring... - any permalink?


 The information is visible in a second layer above the mapnik layer. Which
 system/browser do you use?


 Best regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-20 Thread Toby Murray
The colors start at zoom 12. But if the area hasn't been viewed before
it may take a while to render the overlay tiles, especially with it
being hit by a bunch of us at the same time because of a link being
shared on a large mailing list :)

Toby

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Oleg gel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Chrome, latest I believe. Any zoom limits?

 2011/7/21 Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de

 Am 21.07.2011 00:00, schrieb Oleg:

 hmmm, can't figure out if it works - looks like regular OSM tiles, can't
 see any status coloring... - any permalink?

 The information is visible in a second layer above the mapnik layer. Which
 system/browser do you use?


 Best regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk] data reconciliation tools

2011-07-20 Thread Toby Murray
You know what would be perfect? If this map had the data layer as seen
on osm.org. Then you could easily look up the details of ways you want
to investigate.

Toby

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:
 The colors start at zoom 12. But if the area hasn't been viewed before
 it may take a while to render the overlay tiles, especially with it
 being hit by a bunch of us at the same time because of a link being
 shared on a large mailing list :)

 Toby

 On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Oleg gel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Chrome, latest I believe. Any zoom limits?

 2011/7/21 Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de

 Am 21.07.2011 00:00, schrieb Oleg:

 hmmm, can't figure out if it works - looks like regular OSM tiles, can't
 see any status coloring... - any permalink?

 The information is visible in a second layer above the mapnik layer. Which
 system/browser do you use?


 Best regards,
 Michael.


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