Re: [OSM-talk] proprietary and unrelated images on the about page
On Monday 02 December 2013, Christoph Hormann wrote: TopOSM: http://toposm.ahlzen.com/ (various examples on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TopOSM) OpenSeaMap: http://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=14lat=56.04136lon=12.63945layers=BFTFFFTFFFT0 OSM2World: http://maps.osm2world.org/?h=128view=Wzoom=16lat=48.57188lon=13.46038layers=B0 The Heat maps from: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SotM_2011_session:_Insert_Coin_To_Play The normal map in regions with non-latin script (demonstrating the international and multilingual character of the project): http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/36.8092/10.1738 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/32.0951/34.7996 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/35.7375/51.5014 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/39.9178/116.3833 or the Multilingual map (http://mlm.jochentopf.com/) I know combining such to an image with harmonic colors is not easy but for this purpose it would be perfectly acceptable to tweak the colors of the various maps for an appealing collage. On Monday 02 December 2013, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Opencyclemap.org opencyclemap.org/?zoom=11lat=40.7322lon=-73.95491layers=B000 ÖPNV-Karte http://öpnvkarte.de/?zoom=13lat=51.50521lon=-0.14401layers=TBTTThttp://xn--pnvkarte-m4a.de/?zoom=13lat=51.50521lon=-0.14401layers=TBTTT and many more individual mapstyles including work from stamen, mapbox, non-mapnik renderings, ... I am fairly certain each and every one of these suggestions has already been featured as an image of the week. Those of you on IRC will know that every week Harry dutifully runs around asking people for suggestions and submissions for a new image of the week, and things that aren't repeats are getting fairly thin on the ground now after n hundred IotWs. I am sure Harry would be only too happy to accept help with the IotW maintenance task if you were willing to provide it, but only if you're able to help in providing non-repetitious images. robert. (or maybe, looking at the wider view, people want to debate whether repeats are ok?) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] proprietary and unrelated images on the about page
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Going from left to right, of 4 (identifiable) images only 1 is OSM related (the watercolour rendering), while the mapbox rendering doesn't show osm data (besides maybe the coastline), the country map is apparently created by mapquest from proprietary data: http://mapq.st/IxufcH and the image to the right shows 3D-elevation contours, something that OSM doesn't offer or provide. For sure, contour lines are not part of OSM but it makes nice images. It's all about marketing ;-) Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] proprietary and unrelated images on the about page
2013/12/2 Pieren pier...@gmail.com For sure, contour lines are not part of OSM but it makes nice images. It's all about marketing ;-) While I agree that the image is visually appealing, I still dispute that it is suitable for representing OSM on our main about page. We do have lots of lots of OSM-related images and different maps based on OSM to choose 4 images from (e.g. the images of the week), we really shouldn't use proprietary imagery from Mapquest or unrelated srtm data and NASA imagery for this scope. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] proprietary and unrelated images on the about page
Hi Martin, Can you provide some compelling examples of images that you'd like to see us using instead? On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/12/2 Pieren pier...@gmail.com For sure, contour lines are not part of OSM but it makes nice images. It's all about marketing ;-) While I agree that the image is visually appealing, I still dispute that it is suitable for representing OSM on our main about page. We do have lots of lots of OSM-related images and different maps based on OSM to choose 4 images from (e.g. the images of the week), we really shouldn't use proprietary imagery from Mapquest or unrelated srtm data and NASA imagery for this scope. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] proprietary and unrelated images on the about page
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Martin, Can you provide some compelling examples of images that you'd like to see us using instead? It isn't easy is it? No rendering will satisfy everyone, and even a collection of renderings will miss out on representing OpenStreetMap in all of our glory. I won't get into offering draft images, that isn't my thing. I'll leave that to the pixel pros. But here are some thoughts: - do we need an image? An heretical idea, I know. I'm not mocking those who love pictures. But how important is it to have a mosaic of renderings on the about page? - rather than a rendering or mosaic of renderings, how about a more-human image? Something with people in it? Yes, model releases, and a list of other concerns. Back in the dawn of time, CloudMade had a banner image with a person holding a GPS, suggesting that a human doing a site survey is important. Seems that image is gone now? - what about an image that suggests a solution that OpenStreetMap provides or enables? Ideally, an image that demonstrates that Open Data and Local Geo-genius can improve your day or save your life. Open Data allows you to serve an audience that might not be otherwise commercially viable to serve. I'll leave the composition of that image as an exercise for the reader. So, yeah. Not easy. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] proprietary and unrelated images on the about page
On Monday 02 December 2013, Kathleen Danielson wrote: Can you provide some compelling examples of images that you'd like to see us using instead? TopOSM: http://toposm.ahlzen.com/ (various examples on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TopOSM) OpenSeaMap: http://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=14lat=56.04136lon=12.63945layers=BFTFFFTFFFT0 OSM2World: http://maps.osm2world.org/?h=128view=Wzoom=16lat=48.57188lon=13.46038layers=B0 The Heat maps from: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SotM_2011_session:_Insert_Coin_To_Play The normal map in regions with non-latin script (demonstrating the international and multilingual character of the project): http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/36.8092/10.1738 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/32.0951/34.7996 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/35.7375/51.5014 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/39.9178/116.3833 or the Multilingual map (http://mlm.jochentopf.com/) I know combining such to an image with harmonic colors is not easy but for this purpose it would be perfectly acceptable to tweak the colors of the various maps for an appealing collage. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] proprietary and unrelated images on the about page
2013/12/2 Christoph Hormann chris_horm...@gmx.de TopOSM: OpenSeaMap: OSM2World: The Heat maps from: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/SotM_2011_session:_Insert_Coin_To_Play The normal map in regions with non-latin script (demonstrating the international and multilingual character of the project): or the Multilingual map (http://mlm.jochentopf.com/) +1 Opencyclemap.org opencyclemap.org/?zoom=11lat=40.7322lon=-73.95491layers=B000 ÖPNV-Karte http://öpnvkarte.de/?zoom=13lat=51.50521lon=-0.14401layers=TBTTThttp://xn--pnvkarte-m4a.de/?zoom=13lat=51.50521lon=-0.14401layers=TBTTT and many more individual mapstyles including work from stamen, mapbox, non-mapnik renderings, ... If it shall be maps. Richard's idea of showing people is very appealing. E.g. it could be the group photo of the last sotm like this: http://2013.stateofthemap.org/files/8113/7871/7695/sotmGroupB1170x350.jpg Cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] proprietary and unrelated images on the about page
The header image on this page http://www.openstreetmap.org/about has not so much to do with OSM. http://www.openstreetmap.org/assets/about/osm-dced8787df489e83b403e979f2bf055d.png Going from left to right, of 4 (identifiable) images only 1 is OSM related (the watercolour rendering), while the mapbox rendering doesn't show osm data (besides maybe the coastline), the country map is apparently created by mapquest from proprietary data: http://mapq.st/IxufcH and the image to the right shows 3D-elevation contours, something that OSM doesn't offer or provide. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
