Re: [OSM-talk] [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Frederik Ramm
 I can only hope that such childish protest behaviour is not the norm in OSM.


It makes me angry because you and one or two other guys refuse to
understand that you cannot force people writing meaningful comments in
their commits and this will imply stupid comments. Wikipedia
understood this, Potlatch did it, API did it, but JOSM not. Is that so
childish ?
Sure, only few will protest here. Others will just play arround as we
can see in the changeset history.

Pieren

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Re: [OSM-talk] [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread David Earl
On 22/04/2009 15:02, Pieren wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Frederik Ramm
 I can only hope that such childish protest behaviour is not the norm in OSM.

 
 It makes me angry because you and one or two other guys refuse to
 understand that you cannot force people writing meaningful comments in
 their commits and this will imply stupid comments. Wikipedia
 understood this, Potlatch did it, API did it, but JOSM not. Is that so
 childish ?
 Sure, only few will protest here. Others will just play arround as we
 can see in the changeset history.

You've probably spent more time and effort typing angry comments here 
than you ever will entering helpful comments in your changes. For 
heaven's sake, just get on with it, it's hardly the end of the world. If 
you're so upset, just type '.' and hit return, no big deal - but that's 
not being very helpful to your colleagues, which is a shame.

David



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Re: [OSM-talk] [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Russ Nelson

On Apr 22, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Pieren wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Frederik Ramm
 I can only hope that such childish protest behaviour is not the  
 norm in OSM.


 It makes me angry because you and one or two other guys refuse to
 understand that you cannot force people writing meaningful comments

True.  The requirement that the comment be non-null is a reminder to  
get people into the habit.  And just as some people are putting fuck  
you into their JOSM changesets, more people (I speculate) are leaving  
their Potlatch comments empty.  So if you ignore the meaningless  
comments, and consider null to be equally meaningless, then (again, I  
speculate) JOSM is getting more meaningful comments.

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Re: [OSM-talk] [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Ed Loach
 more people (I speculate) are
 leaving
 their Potlatch comments empty.  

Perhaps I should RTFM (or RTFW), but I couldn't see anywhere obvious
to put a comment (and doing a quick wiki search am no clearer).
Checking my post-upgrade edits you can tell the three I did with
JOSM and the one I did with Potlatch by the comments:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/EdLoach/edits

I like Ed(not me)'s suggestion that it would be good to be able to
edit these (our own) comments.

Ed



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Re: [OSM-talk] [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote:
 more people (I speculate) are
 leaving
 their Potlatch comments empty.

 Perhaps I should RTFM (or RTFW), but I couldn't see anywhere obvious
 to put a comment (and doing a quick wiki search am no clearer).
 Checking my post-upgrade edits you can tell the three I did with
 JOSM and the one I did with Potlatch by the comments:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/EdLoach/edits

 I like Ed(not me)'s suggestion that it would be good to be able to
 edit these (our own) comments.

You can revise your changeset up until the point that it's closed.
When the changeset is closed that's the indication to
anti-vandalism/review tools that it's done and not going to vary.

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: [OSM-talk] [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Shaun McDonald

On 22 Apr 2009, at 15:45, Ed Loach wrote:

 more people (I speculate) are
 leaving
 their Potlatch comments empty.

 Perhaps I should RTFM (or RTFW), but I couldn't see anywhere obvious
 to put a comment (and doing a quick wiki search am no clearer).
 Checking my post-upgrade edits you can tell the three I did with
 JOSM and the one I did with Potlatch by the comments:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/EdLoach/edits


You can make comments in Potlatch by pressing the hidden C keyboard  
shortcut, however that does close the changeset and open a new one.

Shaun

 I like Ed(not me)'s suggestion that it would be good to be able to
 edit these (our own) comments.

 Ed



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