Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-12 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 17:31, Maarten Deen  wrote:

> maxspeed:conditional=20 @ flashing?
> It is free form, so you can fill in anything you like. If it catches on,
> the people who make the navigation will start to use it.
>

That sounds good and seems in line with what people are already doing.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-12 Thread Maarten Deen

On 2020-03-12 03:59, Andrew Harvey wrote:

On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 12:51, Paul Johnson 
wrote:


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM Jack Armstrong
 wrote:


How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this
on the wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place.
Thanks.


The sign itself would be highway=traffic_sign,
traffic_sign=maxpseed, maxspeed=traffic_signals.  For the school
zone on the way, that would be maxspeed=* (whatever the maxspeed is
normally when it's not in effect), and
maxspeed:variable=school_zone.


That looks good but how would you mark the variable speed as 20mph?
I've seen people use something along the lines of
`maxspeed:conditional=80 @ wet` to indicate the lower speed for
maxspeed:variable=weather, so something similar could be used here.


maxspeed:conditional=20 @ flashing?
It is free form, so you can fill in anything you like. If it catches on, 
the people who make the navigation will start to use it.


Regards,
Maarten


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Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread Jack Armstrong
Thanks for the great input. I've added the signals and modified the street. If I got anything wrong or if anything needs changing, please feel free to let me know. Cheers :)https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=22/39.76201/-104.96784-Original Message-
From: Paul Johnson 
Sent: Mar 11, 2020 9:56 PM
To: Andrew Harvey 
Cc: Jack Armstrong , OSM 
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 9:59 PM Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> wrote:On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 12:51, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote:On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM Jack Armstrong <jacknst...@sprynet.com> wrote:How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on the wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks.The sign itself would be highway=traffic_sign, traffic_sign=maxpseed, maxspeed=traffic_signals.  For the school zone on the way, that would be maxspeed=* (whatever the maxspeed is normally when it's not in effect), and maxspeed:variable=school_zone. That looks good but how would you mark the variable speed as 20mph? I've seen people use something along the lines of `maxspeed:conditional=80 @ wet` to indicate the lower speed for maxspeed:variable=weather, so something similar could be used here.To my knowledge, there's no way to accurately represent that at this time.  Nor could data consumers reasonably use that information, as far as I can tell. 


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Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 9:59 PM Andrew Harvey 
wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 12:51, Paul Johnson  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM Jack Armstrong 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on
>>> the wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks.
>>>
>>
>> The sign itself would be highway=traffic_sign, traffic_sign=maxpseed,
>> maxspeed=traffic_signals.  For the school zone on the way, that would be
>> maxspeed=* (whatever the maxspeed is normally when it's not in effect),
>> and maxspeed:variable=school_zone.
>>
>
> That looks good but how would you mark the variable speed as 20mph? I've
> seen people use something along the lines of `maxspeed:conditional=80 @
> wet` to indicate the lower speed for maxspeed:variable=weather, so
> something similar could be used here.
>

To my knowledge, there's no way to accurately represent that at this time.
Nor could data consumers reasonably use that information, as far as I can
tell.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 12:51, Paul Johnson  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM Jack Armstrong 
> wrote:
>
>> How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on the
>> wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks.
>>
>
> The sign itself would be highway=traffic_sign, traffic_sign=maxpseed,
> maxspeed=traffic_signals.  For the school zone on the way, that would be
> maxspeed=* (whatever the maxspeed is normally when it's not in effect),
> and maxspeed:variable=school_zone.
>

That looks good but how would you mark the variable speed as 20mph? I've
seen people use something along the lines of `maxspeed:conditional=80 @
wet` to indicate the lower speed for maxspeed:variable=weather, so
something similar could be used here.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM Jack Armstrong 
wrote:

> How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on the
> wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks.
>

The sign itself would be highway=traffic_sign, traffic_sign=maxpseed,
maxspeed=traffic_signals.  For the school zone on the way, that would be
maxspeed=* (whatever the maxspeed is normally when it's not in effect), and
maxspeed:variable=school_zone.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread James
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed:variable

?

On Wed., Mar. 11, 2020, 9:24 p.m. Jack Armstrong, 
wrote:

> How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on the
> wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks.
>
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=IOiHry5EPtSQ_3YoGQ4jGw=photo=39.7620490002=-104.9674159996=17=0.6324722779922073=0.6518280237656362=2
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