Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin maps with SRTM countours and OSM data?

2008-03-23 Thread Ludwig
On 23/03/2008, David Ebling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all, just wondering if anyone can help me - I want
 to make a Garmin .IMG file of the whole of cumbria
 that includes NASA SRTM data, as the IMG files from
 here do: http://www.smc.org.uk/ContourMaps.htm but i'd
 also like to have OSM road, footpath, cycle path etc
 data on there too. The Garmin unit i'm trying to use
 it on is a 60Csx, which doesn't seem able to display
 more than one map for an area at a time, so i'm not
 able to have the SRTM data in one map file and the
 OSM/MapSource data in another, and show both at once.


I am a bit surprised you can only show one map at a time, but I have an
etrex and their capabilities may vary. I could simply be that both maps you
are trying to show are non-transparent.

While OSM has its own map compiler I have always used cgpsmapper (
www.cgpsmapper.com) which uses an input format known as the 'Polish' or mp
format. Anyway, technically you can use GPSMapEdit to extract the map data
from the SMC file into 'Polish format' and there are some older programs on
the OSM site on how to transform the OSM format into the Polish format as
well. You can then simply provide a combined input file for both raw data
formats and recompile the data into a single map.

There is also a program called gmaptool (difficult to find:
http://www.anpo.republika.pl/download.html#gmaptool) which has a simple join
facility, but it might not work if you are dealing with overlapping maps
(the main purpose is to combine non-overlapping maps for use with some of
the newer Garmins which only allow a single image to be present).

HTH

Ludwig
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Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin maps with SRTM countours and OSM data?

2008-03-23 Thread Igor Brejc
Hi David,

David Ebling wrote:
 Hi all, just wondering if anyone can help me - I want
 to make a Garmin .IMG file of the whole of cumbria
 that includes NASA SRTM data, as the IMG files from
 here do: http://www.smc.org.uk/ContourMaps.htm but i'd
 also like to have OSM road, footpath, cycle path etc
 data on there too. The Garmin unit i'm trying to use
 it on is a 60Csx, which doesn't seem able to display
 more than one map for an area at a time, so i'm not
 able to have the SRTM data in one map file and the
 OSM/MapSource data in another, and show both at once.
   
Are you sure? I use eTrex Vista, which is a cheaper model than 60csx and 
I use OSM data + separate contours without problems. The order of 
loading maps is important (when you look at the list of maps on your GPS 
unit, contours maps should be at the end of the list). And I think 
certain maps have some sort of transparency setting turned on, and 
some do not, but I'm not sure. I use contours which were generated with 
DEM2TOPO tool (I didn't do this myself).
 Can anyone help with this? I would like to do the same
 for the south downs area too once I've worked out how
 to do this?

 I'm not hugely familiar with the more technical
 aspects of this, and am working on windows. I am
 pretty computer literate though.
   
Check out http://home.cinci.rr.com/creek/garmin.htm and 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Srtm2Osm#Categorizing_Contours_For_Mkgmap.

Igor

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Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin maps with SRTM countours and OSM data?

2008-03-23 Thread Stephen Wing
I've tried this, and had all sorts of problems doing this myself, on my
Windows machine.

First of all, all the maps have to be in a single gmapsupp.img file, but can
still be separate maps within that file, as long as you have combined them
before converting to the Garmin format.  Combining the SMC Contours with OSM
maps produced by mkgmap (the OSM map needed splitting with osmcut.jar which
introduces additional problems itself including some roads not appearing)
causes problems - as you scroll through the various zoom levels you either
get contours or OSM maps, and only at certain zoom levels will you get
both.  I'm sure spending a lot more time with changing the mkgmap settings
would result in getting everything right...

However, I've been working with some other guys and we are now planning to
take the raw SRTM data and ensuring it's built with the same mkgmap settings
as the OSM map, which removes these zooming problems.  We are working on
producing regular updates of the OSM map for Garmin (with and without
contours) from a dedicated website www.mapomatic.net

Right now, we are beta testing the non-contour maps with a group of people
to make sure the maps work fine on a variety of different Garmin units
before we release this publicly and move onto working on the contour version
(and then onto some other OSM related projects).

Hopefully within the next few weeks / months, we would be able to provide
you with a full map of the UK with contours that you could use with your
60CSx, although you are welcome to sign up as a beta tester (I believe
Stuart has already contacted you directly offering you this).

Steve

On 23/03/2008, David Ebling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all, just wondering if anyone can help me - I want
 to make a Garmin .IMG file of the whole of cumbria
 that includes NASA SRTM data, as the IMG files from
 here do: http://www.smc.org.uk/ContourMaps.htm but i'd
 also like to have OSM road, footpath, cycle path etc
 data on there too. The Garmin unit i'm trying to use
 it on is a 60Csx, which doesn't seem able to display
 more than one map for an area at a time, so i'm not
 able to have the SRTM data in one map file and the
 OSM/MapSource data in another, and show both at once.

 Can anyone help with this? I would like to do the same
 for the south downs area too once I've worked out how
 to do this?

 I'm not hugely familiar with the more technical
 aspects of this, and am working on windows. I am
 pretty computer literate though.

 Thanks for any help,

 David


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