Re: [OSM-talk] GeoChat

[Oleksiy Muzalyev]

Good morning Ilya,

At the page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/GeoChat

there is a sentence with a mistyped word "ot":

"Right mouse button click opens a popup menu, from which you can enable 
a map layer with all nearby users on it, copy selected text to a 
clipboard, ot open a tab for talking with a nearby user privately."


I want to correct it, but I am not sure if it should be "to" or "or", as 
I just installed the plugin.


Best regards,
Oleksiy
OSM: Alex-7


On 07.01.18 17:00, Ilya Zverev wrote:

Paul wrote:
Is GeoChat  
down
or defunct now?  I haven't been able to connect to it in a couple 
days now.


Sorry Paul, that was caused by forcing https on all OSM servers. Java, 
turns out, does not auto-redirect from http to https. I've just 
updated the URL in the plugin and tested that it works.


Nice to hear somebody uses it :)

Ilya

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoChat

[Paul Johnson]

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 9:13 AM, Andrew Buck  wrote:

> It is a great little tool.  Simple, but surprisingly effective. It
> actually works amazingly well when coupled with a voice chat program.  In
> HOT we use mumble for voice and the geochat plugin combined with that
> allows mappers to "point" to objects in imagery by centering on them and
> then letting other user look at the same area to discuss what is being seen
> in the imagery.  Things like how a road should be classified, how to tag a
> specific thing, etc.  Of course you can use the text chat right in the
> plugin as well, but I always prefer voice chat for discussion as it is just
> so much faster.
>

I don't tend to use voice chats when I'm editing mostly because I've
usually got my roommate or the TV going at the same time, so I'd miss
things that were said on voice but not in text.


> In any case, it is not a plugin I use super often, but when I do need it,
> it is just the right tool for the job.  My only suggestion would be that
> you consider making "show users on map" default to "on" instead of "off"
> like it is now.  I always forget to turn it on unless I specifically want
> to collaborate with someone, but I think if it defaulted to on then it
> would get a lot more use.  It would be really fun to be mapping and see
> other people showing up in the area to see what you are working on.  I
> think it would really add to the sense of community in OSM.
>

Yeah, I didn't know it now defaults to "Off".  Making this a configurable
option would be nice.
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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoChat

[Clifford Snow]

Thanks Ilya, I am planning to include GeoChat in an upcoming teaching
session.

Although I don't think I've ever had someone else in the same area mapping
at the same time. But the concept is great. I keep hoping that someone will
be mapping nearby so I can say Hi.

Keep up the great work,
Clifford

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 7:11 AM, Blake Girardot HOT/OSM <
blake.girar...@hotosm.org> wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Ilya Zverev  wrote:
>
> > Nice to hear somebody uses it :)
> >
> > Ilya
>
> I love GeoChat, not so much the chat part, but the seeing other users
> in the JOSM viewport "on the ground" part. I love that, it is like
> exploring together.
>
> Cheers
> blake
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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoChat

[Andrew Buck]

It is a great little tool.  Simple, but surprisingly effective. It 
actually works amazingly well when coupled with a voice chat program.  
In HOT we use mumble for voice and the geochat plugin combined with that 
allows mappers to "point" to objects in imagery by centering on them and 
then letting other user look at the same area to discuss what is being 
seen in the imagery.  Things like how a road should be classified, how 
to tag a specific thing, etc.  Of course you can use the text chat right 
in the plugin as well, but I always prefer voice chat for discussion as 
it is just so much faster.



In any case, it is not a plugin I use super often, but when I do need 
it, it is just the right tool for the job.  My only suggestion would be 
that you consider making "show users on map" default to "on" instead of 
"off" like it is now.  I always forget to turn it on unless I 
specifically want to collaborate with someone, but I think if it 
defaulted to on then it would get a lot more use.  It would be really 
fun to be mapping and see other people showing up in the area to see 
what you are working on.  I think it would really add to the sense of 
community in OSM.



-AndrewBuck


On 01/07/2018 09:00 AM, Ilya Zverev wrote:

Paul wrote:
Is GeoChat  
down
or defunct now?  I haven't been able to connect to it in a couple 
days now.


Sorry Paul, that was caused by forcing https on all OSM servers. Java, 
turns out, does not auto-redirect from http to https. I've just 
updated the URL in the plugin and tested that it works.


Nice to hear somebody uses it :)

Ilya

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoChat

[Blake Girardot HOT/OSM]

On Sun, Jan 7, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Ilya Zverev  wrote:

> Nice to hear somebody uses it :)
>
> Ilya

I love GeoChat, not so much the chat part, but the seeing other users
in the JOSM viewport "on the ground" part. I love that, it is like
exploring together.

Cheers
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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoChat

[Ilya Zverev]

Paul wrote:

Is GeoChat  down
or defunct now?  I haven't been able to connect to it in a couple days now.


Sorry Paul, that was caused by forcing https on all OSM servers. Java, 
turns out, does not auto-redirect from http to https. I've just updated 
the URL in the plugin and tested that it works.


Nice to hear somebody uses it :)

Ilya

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoChat

[Andrew Buck]

I used it about a week ago and it was working fine then, but haven't 
tried it more recently than that.  So the project is not dead, but that 
doesn't mean there aren't issues at the moment.





On 01/06/2018 04:33 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:

Is GeoChat  down
or defunct now?  I haven't been able to connect to it in a couple days now.



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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoChat plugin for JOSM

[Peter Barth]

Hi Ilya,

I had time to test and experiment with your plugin today. And I'm
impressed, it's really nice and quite useful.

However, I found some small bugs and have a feature request. And as I
don't know where to put those, I'm doing it here :)

Bugs:
1. If the chat gets focus during e.g. the area tool you can't re-focus
the map by clicking on it, you have to click on the select tool.

2. If I switch the mapping area to some quite different place
(downloading new data) the last message(s) get printed out alot of
times. 

And finaly a feature request :) Would it be possible to attach to the
upload system and alert me, whenever one of the other users uploaded
something? And best to somehow display his changeset's bounding box?

Thank you, and hope more people start to use your plugin :)

Peda

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoChat plugin for JOSM

[Frederik Ramm]

Zverik,

On 10.05.2013 10:29, Ilya Zverev wrote:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/GeoChat


That sounds great. I always wanted to have something like that!

I have some thoughts about it - not meant to criticize, I'm really 
looking forward to seeing this used more widely!


* Are private messages really private in the senses that only the 
user logged in as the recipient will receive them? If not, maybe rename 
to directed messages or so.


* If this catches on, there will soon be demand for some kind of 
authentication - that keeps me from joining the chat under the name 
Zverik or so ;) maybe it could be implemented with OAuth, where the 
server would check with the OSM server whether the logged-in user has 
the same user name in OSM, and then notifies clients whether a certain 
user name is authenticated or not. People could still use any name but 
clients could make them show up in grey or so if they're not authenticated.


* I don't yet understand how messages are located. You seem to be using 
point coordinates only, so if i write something is that always mapped to 
the centre of my curren viewpoint? If I zoom out and have a 50x50km area 
on my screen, will I only see the messages pertaining to a 20km circle 
in the middle of my screen? - I have a feeling that maybe the plugin and 
protocol might benefit from extending this to use rectangles in sending 
as well as polling for messages.


* Auto-login for the plugin would be great.

* Maybe announce on JOSM's message of the day to get more people to 
try it out?


Great work!

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] GeoChat plugin for JOSM

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2013/5/10 Ilya Zverev zve...@textual.ru

 Hi! Sorry to bother you, but I've written something again, and I'd like
 for everyone to use it :)

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/JOSM/Plugins/GeoChathttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/GeoChat

 It is a plugin for JOSM that allows users mapping in a same area to talk
 to each other. At the least it should render a chat window in MapCraft
 obsolete: users at online mapping parties would be able to interact inside
 the map editor. Also it could lessen a chance of mapping conflicts, because
 users' location can be shown in a map window.



Hey, this sounds very interesting! I'm going to check it out instantly.

cheers,
Martin
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