Re: [OSM-talk] 'How do you map in...? series
The Novosibirsk write-up was fascinating, thank you! -mike. On May 7, 2011, at 1:34 AM, Matthias Meißer wrote: Hi there, during my work in the usergroups map i got in contact with a lot of local communities and I became interested to know how different mapping might be in different countries with other technical and cultural problems. Thats why I started the 'How do you map in...' series and hopefully mappers from all over the world will contribute a short story on how their local communities (or the individual mappers) work, communicate and how others make use on their results. So I just create a simple platform, it's up to you to fill it with interesting content :) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_do_you_map_in For the first issue I asked the folks over at Russia to write an article and yes now they show us how mapping is working there. Thanks user:siberiano ! I would be happy if some others could translate the article and make it available to your local communities. If anybody is interested for the next issue, or would be interested in knowing how to map in nation X, feel free to drop a line on the wiki talk pages. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_do_you_map_in/new bye Matthias (user:!i!) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk michal migurski- m...@stamen.com 415.558.1610 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map
David Paleino wrote: David Paleino wrote: http://osm.org/go/xZaERTJSm-- Ah, I forgot also this one: http://osm.org/go/xZYvzIcHP-- NOT THE WAY TO DO IT! I zoomed out and noticed that the national border along the Mediterranean coast of Sicily and the rest of Italy and also France look really bad. Is there a reason why the border isn't off the coast like it is most places, e.g. Spain? -- Morten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map
David Paleino wrote: http://osm.org/go/xZaERTJSm-- Please, don't. Have you contacted the user in question (in a friendly fashion) to explain how it could be done better? They probably don't read this list. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-*NOT*-to-map-tp25654568p25658124.html Sent from the OpenStreetMap - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map
David Paleino wrote: Sent: 29 September 2009 12:26 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Cc: talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map David Paleino wrote: http://osm.org/go/xZaERTJSm-- Ah, I forgot also this one: http://osm.org/go/xZYvzIcHP-- NOT THE WAY TO DO IT! There isn't a lot of point shouting at the mailing list about this. Looking at the area I see quite a number of different editors, most of which appear to have done only a few edits or indeed are new (the first example you gave is from a mapper who only signed up to the project in the last few weeks). Since there are so many mappers, have you considered contacting them all for a social meet-up? Usually issues of editing, especially for new contributors, are easily fixed by offering a bit of assistance. If a meet-up isn't on, then at least drop these new folks an email and offer some help. Cheers Andy /me will need some time to fix the whole city :( -- . ''`. Debian maintainer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino : :' : Linuxer #334216 --|-- http://www.hanskalabs.net/ `. `'` GPG: 1392B174 | http://snipr.com/qa_page `- 2BAB C625 4E66 E7B8 450A C3E1 E6AA 9017 1392 B174 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: David Paleino wrote: http://osm.org/go/xZaERTJSm-- Ah, I forgot also this one: http://osm.org/go/xZYvzIcHP-- NOT THE WAY TO DO IT! There isn't a lot of point shouting at the mailing list about this. Needed to rant somewhere :) (and, most importantly, give an example of how a bad map looks like) Looking at the area I see quite a number of different editors, most of which appear to have done only a few edits or indeed are new (the first example you gave is from a mapper who only signed up to the project in the last few weeks). Since there are so many mappers, have you considered contacting them all for a social meet-up? Usually issues of editing, especially for new contributors, are easily fixed by offering a bit of assistance. I already contacted the 4-5 mappers who made the most edits, but no one ever replied. Also, I'm going to give a talk about OSM in Palermo soon I hope (October - November), and I already planned to contact them for this :) If a meet-up isn't on, then at least drop these new folks an email and offer some help. Surely will do ;) David -- . ''`. Debian maintainer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino : :' : Linuxer #334216 --|-- http://www.hanskalabs.net/ `. `'` GPG: 1392B174 | http://snipr.com/qa_page `- 2BAB C625 4E66 E7B8 450A C3E1 E6AA 9017 1392 B174 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map
2009/9/29 Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk: I zoomed out and noticed that the national border along the Mediterranean coast of Sicily and the rest of Italy and also France look really bad. Is there a reason why the border isn't off the coast like it is most places, e.g. Spain? we're currently talking about this on talk-it (and have already done so in the past), the reason that it is still like this is not that we wouldn't like to change it, but that noone had time/will to do it till now (we imported all borders from national institute of statistics). Does anyone have a script to calculate the 12nm-offset and probably simplify the outcome? cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map
2009/9/29 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Does anyone have a script to calculate the 12nm-offset and probably simplify the outcome? The Australia 12nm boundary was guessed by someone and roughly put in... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/9/29 Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk: I zoomed out and noticed that the national border along the Mediterranean coast of Sicily and the rest of Italy and also France look really bad. Is there a reason why the border isn't off the coast like it is most places, e.g. Spain? we're currently talking about this on talk-it (and have already done so in the past), the reason that it is still like this is not that we wouldn't like to change it, but that noone had time/will to do it till now (we imported all borders from national institute of statistics). Does anyone have a script to calculate the 12nm-offset and probably simplify the outcome? Looking at the Spain maritime border, there's a source=robot-generated-12nm- border, so it probably exists :) Anyone knows where to get it from? David -- . ''`. Debian maintainer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino : :' : Linuxer #334216 --|-- http://www.hanskalabs.net/ `. `'` GPG: 1392B174 | http://snipr.com/qa_page `- 2BAB C625 4E66 E7B8 450A C3E1 E6AA 9017 1392 B174 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map
2009/9/29 David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com Looking at the Spain maritime border, there's a source=robot-generated-12nm- border, so it probably exists :) Anyone knows where to get it from? Performing an ST_Buffer might help in Postgis. Emilie Laffray ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/9/29 Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk: I zoomed out and noticed that the national border along the Mediterranean coast of Sicily and the rest of Italy and also France look really bad. Is there a reason why the border isn't off the coast like it is most places, e.g. Spain? we're currently talking about this on talk-it (and have already done so in the past), the reason that it is still like this is not that we wouldn't like to change it, but that noone had time/will to do it till now (we imported all borders from national institute of statistics). Does anyone have a script to calculate the 12nm-offset and probably simplify the outcome? I don't but it should be relatively easy to compute using the following algorith: - At each node on the coastline, produce a circle of 12 nmi. - Remove all circle points that are inside some other circle. - simplify Since the coastline ends somewhere, there may be some edge effects that need fixing afterwards. -- Morten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map
2009/9/29 Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk: I don't but it should be relatively easy to compute using the following algorith: - At each node on the coastline, produce a circle of 12 nmi. OK, we'll use the baseline instead of the coastline, but besides this (and because the baseline differs just in some explicitly legally defined points from the coastline): we would end up with lots of arc-segments = whole lot of nodes in the OSM-World, who doesn't know curves and arcs. But those would not be more precise than straight lines for the simple fact that it is completely random, where exactly someone set the nodes for a coastline. I'd prefer to simply offset and probably simplify it instead of creating all those circles. cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 01:21 +0200, David Paleino wrote: http://osm.org/go/xZaERTJSm-- Please, don't. A paragraph or two describing the problem (and the correct way to tag) could help any newbies searching the archives. I've seen this sort of thing when someone (apparently) promotes or demotes a highway. I'll find little pieces of highway=primary were the longer ways are tagged highway=secondary. It looks very much like the demotion was done with the editor zoomed out instead of the tedious process of following the way up close. Just my 0.02 monetary units. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map
On 29/09/2009, at 11.30, John Smith wrote: 2009/9/29 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Does anyone have a script to calculate the 12nm-offset and probably simplify the outcome? The Australia 12nm boundary was guessed by someone and roughly put in... Personally, I think that's a much better choice than letting it coincide with the coastline, as long as it's tagged with a fixme note. -- Morten PS: The correct abbreviation for nautical miles is nmi (sometimes M). nm usually means nanometer :-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] How *NOT* to map
David Paleino wrote: http://osm.org/go/xZaERTJSm-- Ah, I forgot also this one: http://osm.org/go/xZYvzIcHP-- NOT THE WAY TO DO IT! /me will need some time to fix the whole city :( -- . ''`. Debian maintainer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino : :' : Linuxer #334216 --|-- http://www.hanskalabs.net/ `. `'` GPG: 1392B174 | http://snipr.com/qa_page `- 2BAB C625 4E66 E7B8 450A C3E1 E6AA 9017 1392 B174 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
