Re: [OSM-talk] Is there some lag in the backend data?

2013-07-25 Thread colliar
On 24.07.2013 17:35, Andy Robinson wrote:
 colliar [mailto:colliar4e...@aol.com] 
 Sent: 24 July 2013 14:14
 To: talk@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Is there some lag in the backend data?
 
 On 24.07.2013 10:39, Andy Robinson wrote:
 From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl] 

Dear Andy

 Would you two please report this at the right place. [1] !
 
 For your tone it sounds like you think the discussion here was wrongly 
 directed?

No, do not get me wrong. I am sorry if my mail was too short and
misleading. A discussion here might have its reasons but we often have
complains about JOSM on this list or the forum but no word about it on
JOSM-trac though it is anonymous editable.

I did sometimes check and report the issue but it is much easier if the
original reporter reports his/her issue.

Please, if interested in any changes, report problems or enhancement
request at JOSM-Trac.

Thanks
colliar




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Re: [OSM-talk] Is there some lag in the backend data?

2013-07-25 Thread Maarten Deen

On 2013-07-24 15:14, colliar wrote:

On 24.07.2013 10:39, Andy Robinson wrote:
From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl]

Would you two please report this at the right place. [1] !


Ticket created as https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/8904
Additions and observations to the ticket welcome.

Regards,
Maarten


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Re: [OSM-talk] Is there some lag in the backend data?

2013-07-24 Thread Andy Robinson
I'm seeing this problem in JOSM 6060. To replicate try: 

Start JOSM and add an object and upload it. Close JOSM and restart and
reload the same area. Item is missing. Download a second time and object
appears.

Occasionally I don't see the problem but mostly it's there. Checking the map
call data via the browser shows the data is there as soon as you have
uploaded it so it suggests some sort of JOSM issues?

Cheers
Andy 

-Original Message-
From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl] 
Sent: 23 July 2013 10:27
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] Is there some lag in the backend data?

I made some changes this morning [1], most notably added some maxspeed tags.
Now it's over 3 hours later and I download the same area again in JOSM and
my changes are not visible.
But when I look at the history of the items (e.g. way 6701036), the change
is there. The history says highway=residential and maxspeed=30. 
JOSM does not show that on the item.
I also can not open the changeset in my browser, it is trying to load now
for 5 minutes.

[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17057508

Regards,
Maarten


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Re: [OSM-talk] Is there some lag in the backend data?

2013-07-24 Thread colliar
On 24.07.2013 10:39, Andy Robinson wrote:
 From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl] 

Would you two please report this at the right place. [1] !

Thanks
fly


[1] https://josm.openstreetmap.de/newticket



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Re: [OSM-talk] Is there some lag in the backend data?

2013-07-24 Thread Andy Robinson
colliar [mailto:colliar4e...@aol.com] 
Sent: 24 July 2013 14:14
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Is there some lag in the backend data?

On 24.07.2013 10:39, Andy Robinson wrote:
 From: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl] 

Would you two please report this at the right place. [1] !

For your tone it sounds like you think the discussion here was wrongly directed?

Cheers
Andy


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Re: [OSM-talk] Is there some lag in the backend data?

2013-07-23 Thread Shaun McDonald

On 23 Jul 2013, at 10:27, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 I made some changes this morning [1], most notably added some maxspeed tags. 
 Now it's over 3 hours later and I download the same area again in JOSM and my 
 changes are not visible.
 But when I look at the history of the items (e.g. way 6701036), the change is 
 there. The history says highway=residential and maxspeed=30. JOSM does not 
 show that on the item.
 I also can not open the changeset in my browser, it is trying to load now for 
 5 minutes.
 
 [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17057508

This url opened straight away for me.

Shaun


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Re: [OSM-talk] Is there some lag in the backend data?

2013-07-23 Thread Maarten Deen

On 2013-07-23 11:43, Maarten Deen wrote:

On 2013-07-23 11:36, Shaun McDonald wrote:
On 23 Jul 2013, at 10:27, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote:

I made some changes this morning [1], most notably added some maxspeed 
tags. Now it's over 3 hours later and I download the same area again in 
JOSM and my changes are not visible.
But when I look at the history of the items (e.g. way 6701036), the 
change is there. The history says highway=residential and maxspeed=30. 
JOSM does not show that on the item.
I also can not open the changeset in my browser, it is trying to load 
now for 5 minutes.


[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/17057508

This url opened straight away for me.

It does now for me too, but when I download the area in JOSM I still
get old data, with the newer data shown in the history screen.


I had a thought and looked at the close open changesets in JOSM. JOSM 
told me this changeset was not closed even though the changeset screen 
said (and still does):


Aangemaakt op: din 23 jul 2013 06:07:37 UTC
Gesloten op: din 23 jul 2013 06:07:43 UTC

I closed it and now it is ok. Glitch in JOSM.

Regards,
Maarten



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Re: [OSM-talk] Is there some lag in the backend data?

2013-07-23 Thread Stephan Knauss

Maarten Deen writes:

I had a thought and looked at the close open changesets in JOSM. JOSM  
told me this changeset was not closed even though the changeset screen  
said (and still does):


Aangemaakt op: din 23 jul 2013 06:07:37 UTC
Gesloten op: din 23 jul 2013 06:07:43 UTC

I closed it and now it is ok. Glitch in JOSM.


For me this sounds more like a replication problem. Data is available  
immediately. It's not related to closing a changeset.


Is the API delivering /map call responses from the main database or from a  
read-only replication?


If its the later than JOSM might need to be extended to evaluate a  
timestamp to detect outdated responses.


Stephan

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