Re: [OSM-talk] issue with bike sharing preset in josm

2012-09-18 Thread Gregory
I'm passing this onto the dev@ mailing list.
I don't think translation is a topic suitable for that list, but I think
those who know about the JOSM translation system are more likely to be
there and not aware of what's happening in talk@


It terms of the actual tag in the OSM data...
Although many people make suggestions, it's not good to change in-use
tags in OpenStreetMap. You can't know who is using the data in what ways
and what could break as a result. You also have to make everyone change
their tagging habbits at the same time, and they may not be aware of a
discussion to change the tag.
If there is potential confusion(I can see how in this case) then it is down
to editors (and translations of editors) to sort that out. For example,
Potlatch uses pictures and you don't need to know what the actual tag text
is.


On 14 September 2012 19:09, Fabri erfab...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello, i'm an Italian osmer
 on talk-it we are thinking there is an issue with amenity=bicycle_rental
 preset in josm

 the problem is about translation: we want to translate
 amenity=bicycle_rental preset as Stazione del Bike Sharing (bike
 sharing docking station) ,

 but on the launchpad translation page [1] we see that bicycle_rental is
 translated in a group together with car rental and motorcycle rental, so
 we cannot change the translation for bicycle_rental only

 we want to make a different translation of amenity=bicycle_rental
 preset, to avoid the common situation of users mapping a shop/place
 renting bikes, as amenity=bicycle_rental instead of shop=bicycle +
 service:bicycle:rental=yes

 any possible solutions?

 thank you.

 ps:some people is also complaining with the tag (amenity=bicycle_rental)
 and want to propose to change in something like amenity=bike_sharing or
 something like that, that avoid misunderstanding but maybe is more
 complicated

 [1]
 https://translations.launchpad.net/josm/trunk/+pots/josm/it/4277/+translate

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Re: [OSM-talk] issue with bike sharing preset in josm

2012-09-18 Thread Fabri
thank you for informing dev@ml :)

Il 18/09/2012 14:49, Gregory ha scritto:
 I'm passing this onto the dev@ mailing list.
 I don't think translation is a topic suitable for that list, but I think
 those who know about the JOSM translation system are more likely to be
 there and not aware of what's happening in talk@


 It terms of the actual tag in the OSM data...
 Although many people make suggestions, it's not good to change in-use
 tags in OpenStreetMap. You can't know who is using the data in what ways
 and what could break as a result. You also have to make everyone change
 their tagging habbits at the same time, and they may not be aware of a
 discussion to change the tag.
 If there is potential confusion(I can see how in this case) then it is down
 to editors (and translations of editors) to sort that out. For example,
 Potlatch uses pictures and you don't need to know what the actual tag text
 is.


 On 14 September 2012 19:09, Fabri erfab...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello, i'm an Italian osmer
 on talk-it we are thinking there is an issue with amenity=bicycle_rental
 preset in josm

 the problem is about translation: we want to translate
 amenity=bicycle_rental preset as Stazione del Bike Sharing (bike
 sharing docking station) ,

 but on the launchpad translation page [1] we see that bicycle_rental is
 translated in a group together with car rental and motorcycle rental, so
 we cannot change the translation for bicycle_rental only

 we want to make a different translation of amenity=bicycle_rental
 preset, to avoid the common situation of users mapping a shop/place
 renting bikes, as amenity=bicycle_rental instead of shop=bicycle +
 service:bicycle:rental=yes

 any possible solutions?

 thank you.

 ps:some people is also complaining with the tag (amenity=bicycle_rental)
 and want to propose to change in something like amenity=bike_sharing or
 something like that, that avoid misunderstanding but maybe is more
 complicated

 [1]
 https://translations.launchpad.net/josm/trunk/+pots/josm/it/4277/+translate

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