[OSM-talk] Cycleway VS Track

2008-08-03 Thread Florian Steiper
Hello,

my first post here  :)

for a small introduction, I bought a nüvi a few weeks ago, got addicted, 
found out about openstreetmap, needed a device that could record traces 
and now own a Vista Hcx and am happy with it..

Now I am cycling around the area here and am trying to improve the cycle 
network as I see it as an unique application that is hard to match with 
other (commercial) products.

So I found out about how to make relations.. just select everything you 
want, set the proper tags and there you go.. I also tagged a longer 
relation already with maybe 30km.

Now comes the question :)

Many of the cycle routes in the area are not running on dedicated 
cycle-ways. Most of them use wirtschaftswege, small roads that are 
usually forbidden for motor traffic, but farmers are allowed to use them.
When you enter such a way the sign in front of it usually says no 
passing for motor vehicles, farming vehicles and bikes allowed.

My understanding is that such a way should be tagged as track with a grade.

I have a map from the local authorities with very short cycle routes 
that lead from one village to another. They mostly use those tracks.

Should I tag the ways as tracks and create a relation for every route 
(maybe 2-5km long) or is there  a better way to handle this ?

ciao

  Florian

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Re: [OSM-talk] OSM on Ubuntu UK podcast

2008-08-04 Thread Florian Steiper
Hello,

I know the answer ;)

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_Map_On_Garmin
This is the description how to make your own maps for the garmins

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Download
Here are ready to use maps for the garmin units.

Simply copy the gmapsupp.img into the garmin-folder on your GPS. 
Sometimes you need to rename it from some other name into gmapsupp.img.

If you want an up-to-date very small area you can use the export 
function of the slippy map at www.openstreetmap.org.
Select a (rather small) area as your view, click on export, select 
OpenStreetMap XML data.

Save the file,

process it with mkgmap.

upload to your GPS

be happy :)

ciao

  Florian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:52:27 +0100, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
 wrote:

   
 Another podcast that 80n and I did at LugRadio live, this time a really
 great quality audio from Ubuntu UK podcast.

 http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2008/07/31/s01e11-blowin-in-the-wind/
 

 One of you talks of a means of uploading a vector? map to Garmins.
 This is just the thing I need in order to locate areas on my travels
 which aren't mapped yet.

 Is there a numpty's how to for getting, say, the SE of England onto
 a Garmin 76csx?

 Or is this more for the newbies list?

 AJH

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mantigue island swallowed by the sea

2008-08-07 Thread Florian Steiper
Hello Rainerr,

maybe the tiles haven't been updated yet ? it takes around a week until 
changes that you make will make it to the slippy map. As much as I 
understood the changes are rendered every thursday.

ciao

  Florian

rainerr wrote:
 Hi,

 In case you don't know Mantigue, it's a small island off the coast of
 Camiguin, which is off the coast of Mindanao, which is part of the
 Philippines. Did I mention Mantigue is small? Well, it is really small, but
 nevertheless there are a few very nice people living there, it has a small
 church and a basketball place. 
 It wasn't there in openstreetmap so I thought I put it in. I created a
 closed way with tags name=Mantigue and natural=coastline. The order of nodes
 is counter-clockwise, i.e. the sea is to the right. That doesn't stop it
 from swallowing the island, though. 
 If you go to Mantigue's location
 (http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=9.1731lon=124.8249zoom=14) you see,
 well, nothing. If you click on the Potlach tab, you'll see the coastline.
 Yes, Mantigue is really that small.
 I checked the wiki. It talks about coastline-checker and closed polygons,
 but I still don't know what I am missing there. Any ideas?

 Thanks, Rainer

   


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Re: [OSM-talk] Cycleway VS Track

2008-08-07 Thread Florian Steiper
Hello,

To warm up the topic again...
I made one relation for a few of the cycle routes of the town 
Nidderau. Those are somehow official routes with signs along the way 
that show a little bicycle, so you know where to turn and from time to 
time bigger signs that show the directions to the different 
towns/villages that the current track will lead to.

The ways that those routes are on vary widely, from a small track that 
is under 1m wide up to main roads through towns.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/26606

Here is the relation I did so far. I tagged it as Local cycle network, 
even though I would think that I would need another category under this 
one.. maybe something like ucn for micro cycle network ?

ciao

  Florian

Raphael Studer wrote:
 I have a map from the local authorities with very short cycle routes
 that lead from one village to another. They mostly use those tracks.

 Should I tag the ways as tracks and create a relation for every route
 (maybe 2-5km long) or is there  a better way to handle this ?
 

 If the ways are tracks, then tag them as tracks :)

 Creating routes (as realtions) for cyclenetworks is verry common.
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Relations/Routes
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Cycle_routes

 Regards,
 Raphael

   


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Re: [OSM-talk] Recommended GPS for logs for OSM *and* for vehicle - is there such a beast?

2008-08-27 Thread Florian Steiper
Hello,

As much as I know the Garmin navigation units can load the OpenStreetMap 
data that is produced by mkgmap.
sadly only the top model in the Nüvi series offers tracking.

However, the motorbike units (zumo) do offer tracking, are water 
(splash) proof and also allow navigation by voice. They may be a little 
heavy for use on a bicycle... and they are also rather expensive... but 
again.. you can load the OSM map on the devices and see where there is 
data already and where there isn't.

ciao

  Florian


Chris G wrote:
 I'm after a GPS system which I can use to provide data for OSM maps
 and as a 'normal' GPS system to tell me where to go when I'm on my
 motorbike.  Is there anything which can provide both facilities or
 should I give up and buy two separate devices?

 It's doubtful (to me) if on-screen maps are much use, too distracting,
 so a system which can provide voice instructions via bluetooth (or
 whatever) would seem to be best for the 'bike.

 A receiver which can link up with a PDA might make sense as I need a
 new PDA anyway.

 So, rather an open-ended question but I'd appreciate any/all input.

   


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