[talk-ph] The Philippines has the 4th largest amount of OSM data in Asia
Well, at least according to the Geofabrik download site for Asia: http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/asia/ Ranking by compressed OSM XML file: 1. Japan - 720 MB 2. China - 69 MB 3. India - 54 MB 4. Philippines - 34 MB 5. Israel/Palestine - 23 MB Ranking by binary OSM PBF file: 1. Japan - 496 MB 2. China - 41 MB 3. India - 31 MB 4. Philippines - 22 MB 5. Israel/Palestine - 15 MB Great work guys! Not bad for a country that has very little data to import in the first place (unlike Japan) and with a smallish territory (unlike China and India). :-D How much bigger can we grow? Italy, which has a very similar land area to the Philippines, has a compressed OSM XML file size of 433 MB. The UK, which has about 1/5 less area than the Philippines, has a compressed OSM XML file size of 458 MB. And Germany, which has about 1/5 more land area, has a whopping 1.3 GB of compressed OSM XML data! ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license for
Kolossos tim.alder@... writes: My question is now under which license or terms we should ask for these list so that they later reusable for OpenStreetMap. Would a CC-BY-SA ok or should it be ODBL? My understanding of the new terms is that neither would be acceptable. -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license for Wiki Loves Monuments
Hi, Mike Dupont wrote: Funny, based on my last question, the OSM will not be able to use cc-by-sa data in the future. Some say that we aren't able to use CC-BY-SA data now because we cannot provide proper attribution. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license for Wiki Loves Monuments
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Funny, based on my last question, the OSM will not be able to use cc-by-sa data in the future. Some say that we aren't able to use CC-BY-SA data now because we cannot provide proper attribution. I would be willing to looking into that, did anyone raise this issue with wikipedia or creative commons? Does it even matter now? mike ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk] What happened to the bounding boxes in the history?
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Until the History can do that, there's always OWL lists: http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/ thats is great!, thanks. mike ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Leaflet - a new open source JavaScript library for maps by CloudMade
Hi Vladimir, I'm Leaflet lead developer at CloudMade and I'll be happy to hear what you think and answer any questions about the library here. :) It would be great to have a yardstick from you comparing Leaflet to OpenLayers in an if you want ... you'll probably be better off with Leaflet but if you want ... you'll be probably bet better of with OpenLayers way. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Leaflet - a new open source JavaScript library for maps by CloudMade
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 14:34, Vladimir Agafonkin vagafon...@cloudmade.com wrote: I'm Leaflet lead developer at CloudMade and I'll be happy to hear what you think and answer any questions about the library here. :) This library is very heavy on the GPU (as opposed to google maps), which makes it really slow in e.g. vmware without GPU acceleration, and presumably on platforms that don't have a GPU. I've seen this before e.g. with some jQuery animations, which are really slow without a GPU. OpenLayers and Google Maps don't suffer from the same problem. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] What happened to the bounding boxes in the history?
There are three things I'd like to indicate for every changeset on this page, and need some elegant and simple design thinking to get there. - Is this changeset made by a bot? Technically, can check bot=yes on the changeset tags ... this isn't required, but at least xybot follows this convention, and we can encourage more adoption of it by utilising it. - Is this changeset made by a friend? Simply, if the viewer is signed in, check for friendship. - Is this changeset big? As we're discussing, some disagreement on how to rely technically on this (OWL, or roughly by changeset size). Ideas and discussion on what this could look like are welcome. The idea I've had is very small icons or colored dots next to the changeset id. == Mikel Maron == +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron From: Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com To: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 10:34:51 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] What happened to the bounding boxes in the history? http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=-82.063%2C28.21%2C-80.887%2C28.784 There's no way to tell, going down the list, which ones are huge changesets that cover the entire world and which ones are confined to this area. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] What happened to the bounding boxes in the history?
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: There are three things I'd like to indicate for every changeset on this page, and need some elegant and simple design thinking to get there. - Is this changeset made by a bot? Technically, can check bot=yes on the changeset tags ... this isn't required, but at least xybot follows this convention, and we can encourage more adoption of it by utilising it. - Is this changeset made by a friend? Simply, if the viewer is signed in, check for friendship. - Is this changeset big? As we're discussing, some disagreement on how to rely technically on this (OWL, or roughly by changeset size). Ideas and discussion on what this could look like are welcome. The idea I've had is very small icons or colored dots next to the changeset id. I love the new map w/ bounding boxes. Sure. Icons or color-cues will work. css classes on the table rows might work as well. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Leaflet - a new open source JavaScript library for maps by CloudMade
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 14:34, Vladimir Agafonkin vagafon...@cloudmade.com wrote: I'm Leaflet lead developer at CloudMade and I'll be happy to hear what you think and answer any questions about the library here. :) This library is very heavy on the GPU (as opposed to google maps), which makes it really slow in e.g. vmware without GPU acceleration, and presumably on platforms that don't have a GPU. I've seen this before e.g. with some jQuery animations, which are really slow without a GPU. OpenLayers and Google Maps don't suffer from the same problem. The animations are awesome though. On my system, they work in Chrome, but not in Firefox 3.6 or Opera 11.01 browser. Normally I'd say it is good to have a little competition, but wouldn't it be so much easier to fork OL and rewrite the parts you don't like? A friendly fork could contribute some code upstream occasionally. Paul ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Three-dimensional aerial imagery
For how it was done in the 1940s, UK OSMers may wish to turn on the telly NOW! http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b011cr8f Operation Crossbow NEXT ON: Today, 21:00 on BBC Two (except Northern Ireland (Analogue), Wales (Analogue)) SYNOPSIS: The heroic tales of World War II are legendary, but Operation Crossbow is a little known story that deserves to join the hall of fame: how the Allies used 3D photos to thwart the Nazis' weapons of mass destruction before they could obliterate Britain. This film brings together the heroic Spitfire pilots who took the photographs and the brilliant minds of RAF Medmenham that made sense of the jigsaw of clues hidden in the photos. Hitler was pumping a fortune into his new-fangled V weapons in the hope they could win him the war. But Medmenham had a secret weapon of its own, a simple stereoscope which brought to life every contour of the enemy landscape in perfect 3D. The devil was truly in the detail and, together with extraordinary personal testimonies, the film uses modern computer graphics on the original wartime photographs to show just how the photo interpreters were able to uncover Hitler's nastiest secrets. - L On 15 May 2011, at 00:19, andrzej zaborowski wrote: On 14 May 2011 18:16, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: I saw this news story about how three-dimensional aerial photos, viewed with special glasses, make it easier to pick out structures on the ground. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13359064 I wonder if any such 3-d imagery is available today? It would seem to involve having two cameras a set distance apart. If OSM ever charters a plane again, as was done for Stratford-upon-Avon, England, a few years back, it might be worth taking two cameras instead of one. The techniques and the software used in aerial imagery normally struggle to reduce the perspective effect to the minimum, so that the view is almost isometric. One of the advantages of that is that you can pan around the single image and have the illusion of flying over the terrain. With the perspective effect you couldn't do that, you would just have 3D views from a few discrete points like in Google StreetView. You also wouldn't be able to rotate the imagery like you can in Nearmap or Bing, because your eyes won't rotate. If you want that, though, I don't think you need to resurvey Stratford-upon-Avon with two cameras. With the camera shooting continuously you can just pick pairs of consecutive images that are some known distance apart and you get the same effect. Cheers ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-de] Krankenhausgelände
Am 14. Mai 2011 12:15 schrieb Stephan Wolff s.wo...@web.de: Eine Uniklinik mit einem Dutzend chirurgischer Fächer hat nicht ebensoviele OP-Bereiche. je nachdem. Würdest Du denn auch bei verteilten Standorten ein einzelnes Krankenhaus daraus machen, evtl. sogar in unterschiedlichen Städten, wenn das die Verwaltungsstruktur ist? Nein. Ich hatte nur dein Argument widerlegt, dass die Fachkliniken rechtlich unabhängig oder räumlich klar getrennt sind. gibt es beides. Im Endeffekt muss der Mapper vor Ort die Lage analysieren und danach entscheiden. Ich würde jeden Standort (ein Gründstück oder mehrere Teile mit wenigen Metern Abstand) als ein Krankenhaus sehen. In Tübingen gibt es z.B. das Altklinikum und das Neuklinikum als Standorte. Im Altklinikum ist z.B. die Augenklinik, die Zahnklinik, die HNO, die Frauenklinik, die Nervenklinik, die Hautklinik und die Nuklearmedizin. Die haben alle ihre eigenen Bereiche und Gebäude (meist mehrere Gebäude). Zwar ist die Information Altklinikum interessant, aber amenity=hospital würde ich definitiv den einzelnen Kliniken geben und nicht dem gesamten Bereich Altklinikum. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=48.52514lon=9.05377zoom=17layers=M Es entscheidet am Ende der Mapper, was Sinn macht. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Umfrage zur Mapper-Motivation
Frederik Ramm wrote: http://secure.2ask.net/0002/913e414c1ece85da/survey.html Das Ding hat einen Defekt: Frage: | Neben diesem VGI-Projekt würde ich mich zu folgenden Communities zählen * Hier ist keine Auswahl nicht möglich. Gruß Manuel ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Bot Wars
- tags relation 319761http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/319761version 121 in 8045985 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8045985 (or view it here http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/tiles/8045985) 11 days ago by xybot Korrektur der Schreibweise der Strassennamen in der Schweiz; Str(\.?|aße) = Strasse (BOT) . - tags relation 319761http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/319761version 120 in 8028509 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8028509 (or view it here http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/tiles/8028509) 13 days ago by xybot Korrektur der Schreibweise der Straßennamen in Deutschland und Österreich; Str(\.?|asse) = Straße (BOT) . - tags relation 319761http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/319761version 119 in 8017933 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8017933 (or view it here http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/tiles/8017933) 14 days ago by xybot Korrektur der Schreibweise der Strassennamen in der Schweiz; Str(\.?|aße) = Strasse (BOT) . - tags relation 319761http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/319761version 118 in 8001068 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8001068 (or view it here http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/tiles/8001068) 16 days ago by xybot Korrektur der Schreibweise der Straßennamen in Deutschland und Österreich; Str(\.?|asse) = Straße (BOT) . - tags relation 319761http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/319761version 117 in 7991561 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7991561 (or view it here http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/tiles/7991561) 17 days ago by xybot Korrektur der Schreibweise der Strassennamen in der Schweiz; Str(\.?|aße) = Strasse (BOT) . - tags relation 319761http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/319761version 115 in 7971537 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7971537 (or view it here http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/tiles/7971537) 19 days ago by xybot Korrektur der Schreibweise der Straßennamen in Deutschland und Österreich; Str(\.?|asse) = Straße (BOT) . - tags relation 319761http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/319761version 114 in 7959654 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7959654 (or view it here http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/tiles/7959654) 20 days ago by xybot Korrektur der Schreibweise der Strassennamen in der Schweiz; Str(\.?|aße) = Strasse (BOT) . - tags relation 319761http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/319761version 113 in 7941132 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7941132 (or view it here http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/tiles/7941132) 22 days ago by xybot Korrektur der Schreibweise der Straßennamen in Deutschland und Österreich; Str(\.?|asse) = Straße (BOT) . - tags relation 319761http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/319761version 111 in 7931368 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7931368 (or view it here http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/tiles/7931368) 23 days ago by xybot Korrektur der Schreibweise der Strassennamen in der Schweiz; Str(\.?|aße) = Strasse (BOT) . - tags relation 319761http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/319761version 110 in 7923007 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7923007 (or view it here http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/tiles/7923007) 24 days ago by xybot Korrektur der Schreibweise der Straßennamen in Deutschland und Österreich; Str(\.?|asse) = Straße (BOT) . - tags relation 319761http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/319761version 109 in 7913321 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7913321 (or view it here http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/tiles/7913321) 25 days ago by xybot Korrektur der Schreibweise der Strassennamen in der Schweiz; Str(\.?|aße) = Strasse (BOT) . - tags relation 319761http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/319761version 108 in 7894468 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7894468 (or view it here http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/tiles/7894468) 27 days ago by xybot Korrektur der Schreibweise der Straßennamen in Deutschland und Österreich; Str(\.?|asse) = Straße (BOT) . - tags relation 319761http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/319761version 107 in 7884191 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7884191 (or view it here http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/tiles/7884191) 28 days ago by xybot Korrektur der Schreibweise der Strassennamen in der Schweiz; Str(\.?|aße) = Strasse (BOT) . - tags relation 319761http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/319761version 106 in 7867495 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7867495 (or view it here http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/tiles/7867495) about 1 month ago by xybot Korrektur der Schreibweise der
Re: [Talk-de] Bot Wars
Am 15.05.2011 19:16, schrieb Micha Ruh: Gratulation Es müsste eine Regel wie beim Schach geben: nach 50 mal Wiederholung des selben Zuges ist Remis und die Partie zu Ende. ;-) Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] OSM-Wochennotiz Nr. 43
Hallo, die Wochennotiz Nr. 43 mit allen Neuigkeiten aus dem OpenStreetMap-Universum ist da: http://blog.openstreetmap.de/2011/05/osm-wochennotiz-nr-43/ Viel Spaß beim Lesen! ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Umfrage zur Mapper-Motivation
Hallo Manuel Eine neuere der wohl verschiedenen Veröffentlichungen meines Kollegen Prof. Stark ist wohl diese hier: http://www.fossgis.de/konferenz/2010/events/26.de.html LG, Stefan GISpunkt und Institut für Software HSR Hochschule für Technik Rapperswil http://www.gis.hsr.ch/ Am 15. Mai 2011 17:52 schrieb Manuel Reimer manuel.s...@nurfuerspam.de: Frederik Ramm wrote: http://secure.2ask.net/0002/913e414c1ece85da/survey.html Das Ding hat einen Defekt: Frage: | Neben diesem VGI-Projekt würde ich mich zu folgenden Communities zählen * Hier ist keine Auswahl nicht möglich. Gruß Manuel ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-in] GSoC Project's Name Suggestion
On 16 May 2011 06:05, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Parveen Arora o...@parveenarora.in wrote: Please give me the names whatever strikes to your mind, MWM: Mere Wala Map MMC: Mera Maan-Chitra MMD - Mera Marg Darshak or HMD hamara Marg Darshak. Here mera/hamara connotes local copy. -- Regards, Sudev Barar Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there. PS: Replying using bottom post/in-line post makes email conversations whole lot easier for meaningful dialogue. Snip out what is not relevant. Adopt this and spread the message. ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] GSoC Project's Name Suggestion
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Parveen Arora o...@parveenarora.in wrote: Hello Everyone, I am doing my project on 'Fast Track Deployment of Customised OSM Tile Server' for GSoC. I need a little creative help from all of you, that I want to give my project a specific and effective name, the name can be Indian word or any which you would like to suggest. Turant Naksha. - P PS: On a tangential note, I found GeoMereLaal an interesting name - https://github.com/parolkar/geo_mere_laal ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-it] Confini ISTAT 2011 - dump provinciali
Pensavo di non caricare direttamente questi nuovi confini, ma di procedere in questo modo. Visualizzo i confini sopra alle foto pcn per vedere a quale elemento fisico si agganciano (di solito è un fiume, una strada, un fosso o il confine tra due campi), traccio l'elemento fisico e poi lo taggo come confine (oltre che con i tag opportuni per indicare cos'è). io sono contrario ad agganciare i confini amministrativi agli elementi fisici, mi spiego con un esempio: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.7971lon=12.9987zoom=14layers=M questo è il confini tra friuli e veneto, all'inizio stava sul letto del fiume Tagliamento, poi, come vedi, il fiume ha cambiato corso mentre il confine è rimasto dov'era. Altri casi sono quando costruiscono rotonde sulle strade, se c'è anche un confine viene un casino. Casi di questo tipo ci sono praticamente ovunque ed IMHO è meglio lasciare separati gli elementi fisici da quelli amministrativi. Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Confini ISTAT 2011 - dump provinciali
Ho controllato i confini della FVG (anzi solamente della mia zona - comune Duino-Aurisina), dati attuali importati dalla CTR, e sembrano/sono migliori. Ed anche il confine con la Slovenia (importato dai dati ufficiali sloveni) è nettamente migliore dei dati Istat. confermo, i confini del FVG sono presi da un set di dati che la regione aveva prodotto armonizzando CTRN e catasto, quindi per i confini interni alla regione siamo a posto. in ogni caso complimenti per il lavoro che stai facendo! Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Confini ISTAT 2011 - dump provinciali
Il 15/05/2011 09:34, Stefano Salvador ha scritto: Pensavo di non caricare direttamente questi nuovi confini, ma di procedere in questo modo. Visualizzo i confini sopra alle foto pcn per vedere a quale elemento fisico si agganciano (di solito è un fiume, una strada, un fosso o il confine tra due campi), traccio l'elemento fisico e poi lo taggo come confine (oltre che con i tag opportuni per indicare cos'è). io sono contrario ad agganciare i confini amministrativi agli elementi fisici, mi spiego con un esempio: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.7971lon=12.9987zoom=14layers=M questo è il confini tra friuli e veneto, all'inizio stava sul letto del fiume Tagliamento, poi, come vedi, il fiume ha cambiato corso mentre il confine è rimasto dov'era. Altri casi sono quando costruiscono rotonde sulle strade, se c'è anche un confine viene un casino. Casi di questo tipo ci sono praticamente ovunque ed IMHO è meglio lasciare separati gli elementi fisici da quelli amministrativi. Pienamente d'accordo. Ciao, Stefano Ciao Giuliano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Confini ISTAT 2011 - dump provinciali
Il 14/05/2011 12:29, Andrea Musuruane ha scritto: 2011/5/13 David Paleinoda...@debian.org: Buonasera *, ho preparato dei dump provinciali dei confini ISTAT 2011 in versione non generalizzata. Purtroppo, al contrario dei confini 2001, non è auspicabile fare un upload di massa, perché alcuni confini sono stati modificati secondo le CTR locali, altri secondo survey. Hai fatto un ottimo lavoro. Ho guardato i confini del mio comune e di quelli limitrofi. Sono eccezionali. Una definizione decisamente ottima e nulla di paragonabile a quelli vecchi. Io farei anche un import massivo: i confini ISTAT 2011 sono, secondo me, perfetti. Ciao, mi associo ai complimenti per il lavoro. Grazie David! Ho verificato i confini ISTAT 2011 nella mia zona (San Donà di PIave) e confermo che anche qua il dettaglio è nettamente migliore rispetti ai dati ISTAT precedenti. Poi li ho sovrapposti alle foto PCN e anche qua risultano molto spesso spostati di qualche metro rispetto ai riferimenti sul terreno (canali, limiti dei campi, ecc...). Allora li ho confrontati col piano regolatore e confermo che hanno un buon livello di dettaglio ma non sono ben georeferenziati e hanno comunque degli errori di tracciato. In conclusione IMHO NON vanno importati così come sono, ma utilizzati assieme al PCN sono un ottimo strumento per arrivare ovunque a dei confini dettagliati e di buon livello. Tranne per chi, come Friuli e Veneto, ha dati CTR più precisi. Ciao Giuliano Ciao, Andrea. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Licenza del Piano Regolatore
Ciao a tutti, per controllare la precisione dei confini ISTAT 2011 li ho confrontati col piano regolatore del comune. Al che mi venuto un dubbio: i PRG che licenza hanno (se ne hanno una)? Sono di pubblico dominio? C' una qualche legislazione nazionale o bisogna chiedere comune per comune? Di conseguenza i dati inseriti posso essere riutilizzati in OSM (nomi di strade e localit, landuse, linee elettriche, canali, ecc..)? Ciao Giuliano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Licenza del Piano Regolatore
2011/5/15 G Zamboni gd.zamb...@tiscali.it: per controllare la precisione dei confini ISTAT 2011 li ho confrontati col piano regolatore del comune. Al che mi è venuto un dubbio: i PRG che licenza hanno (se ne hanno una)? Sono di pubblico dominio? http://www.interlex.it/testi/l41_633.htm#5 Le disposizioni di questa legge [cioè la protezione del diritto d'autore] non si applicano ai testi degli atti ufficiali dello stato e delle amministrazioni pubbliche, sia italiane che straniere. Non si è mai capito per bene se un piano regolatore sia un testo. IMHO un piano regolatore è un atto ufficiale di un'amministrazione pubblica, e come tale non è protetto dalla legge sul diritto d'autore, pertanto può essere usato su OSM. Ciao, Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Licenza del Piano Regolatore
Bella domanda. Solitamente basta chiedere all'ufficio di competenza (= chi scrive il PRG). Qualcuno potrebbe dirti che sono di pubblico dominio, legandosi al discorso che le delibere sono documenti di pubblico dominio. Alla fine e' attraverso le delibere che si attua il PRG. Se invece si parla di dati allora penso che si debba discutere anche sul piano delle licenze. Anche se c'e' un caso in Italia di un comune che ha liberato dati geografici dichiarando che sono allegati delle delibere. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2009-September/010667.html (... ho pero' la sensazione che si debba andare a fondo per capire se la delibera e' compatibile con la ODbL) 2011/5/15 G Zamboni gd.zamb...@tiscali.it: Ciao a tutti, per controllare la precisione dei confini ISTAT 2011 li ho confrontati col piano regolatore del comune. Al che mi è venuto un dubbio: i PRG che licenza hanno (se ne hanno una)? Sono di pubblico dominio? C'è una qualche legislazione nazionale o bisogna chiedere comune per comune? Di conseguenza i dati inseriti posso essere riutilizzati in OSM (nomi di strade e località, landuse, linee elettriche, canali, ecc..)? Ciao Giuliano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Confini ISTAT 2011 - dump provinciali
Il 14/05/2011 15:22, David Paleino ha scritto: 4) selezionare tutte le way che compongono il confine, e tutti i nodi in cui viene spezzato (sono riconoscibili graficamente), Perché anche i nodi? Non bastano i segmenti? ed usare File Scarica elementi che dipendono da questo oggetto (vado a memoria, è comunque Ctrl-Alt-Shift-D nel mio JOSM). ctrl-alt-D, nel mio -- Giacomo Boschi http://gwilbor.wordpress.com/ -- Caselle da 1GB, trasmetti allegati fino a 3GB e in piu' IMAP, POP3 e SMTP autenticato? GRATIS solo con Email.it http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Famiglie ai parchi per un'estate di divertimento con pacchetti hotel+parco con Costahotels Riccione Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=11482d=15-5 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Confini ISTAT 2011 - dump provinciali
On Sun, 15 May 2011 17:12:29 +0200, Giacomo Boschi wrote: Il 14/05/2011 15:22, David Paleino ha scritto: 4) selezionare tutte le way che compongono il confine, e tutti i nodi in cui viene spezzato (sono riconoscibili graficamente), Perché anche i nodi? Non bastano i segmenti? Perché ai nodi si agganciano i confini comunali delle province circostanti, che vanno ri-agganciati ai nuovi :) (e così si evita di scaricare per intero le relazioni dei comuni delle province circostanti, che potrebbero anche essere tantini) ed usare File Scarica elementi che dipendono da questo oggetto (vado a memoria, è comunque Ctrl-Alt-Shift-D nel mio JOSM). ctrl-alt-D, nel mio Eh, sì, purtroppo dipende da che plugin uno ha installato. :) David -- . ''`. Debian developer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino : :' : Linuxer #334216 --|-- http://www.hanskalabs.net/ `. `'` GPG: 1392B174 | http://deb.li/dapal `- 2BAB C625 4E66 E7B8 450A C3E1 E6AA 9017 1392 B174 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Tag per chiuse
Volevo inserire un breve tratto di un canale per irrigazione agricola dove sono stato oggi ma ho un problema. Il suddetto canale prende acqua da un altro canale, il Villoresi, attraverso delle chiuse. Le chiuse sono quelle che si aziona verticalmente, dall'alto, avvitando o svitando un congegno. Ogni chiusa e' larga circa un metro e, nel caso in questione ce ne sono 4. Pare non esistere un tag per questo tipo di chiuse. Esiste lock ma e' per le chiuse dedicate alla navigazione. Sluice non e' un tag ufficiale. Qualche suggerimento? grazie maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-co] Etiquetas sector salud
Sobre la reunión, me interesa. Pongamonos de acuerdo una noche en esta semana. Yo puedo cualquiera de ellas. Gracias ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
Re: [Talk-co] Etiquetas sector salud
Hola German y demás integrantes de OSM. Lo que he recogido sobre los aportes de otros usuarios de la lista e información de la secretaria de salud sobre el tema lo puse en: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Gu%C3%ADa_para_mapear_en_Colombia Creo que su aporte deberíamos consolidarlo en ese lugar. Otra cosa es que en la guia para mapear en Colombia no aparece. Pregunto: Donde podemos ubicarlo en la wiki o si ya esta ubicado correctamente. Trabajo en el sector salud, pero no conzoco aampliamente. EStoy consultando con las personas que saben del tema en el Hospital Centro Oriente para aportar esa documentación y definir con una versión oficial del Min Protección Social las convenciones para el caso de Colombia. De acuerdo Federico, hay que mirar los documentos de OMS y OPS. GRacias - ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
Re: [Talk-se] GPS för cykling, att komma igång och tagga på bästa sätt
Välkommen till gänget! 1. Själv använder jag en iPhone och RunKeeper. Från hemsidan kan man sedan exportera träningspasset som GPX-fil. Tidigare använde jag en Nokia N82 och Nokia Sports Tracker (tror jag det hette) på samma sätt. 2. Jag lägger också min röst på JOSM. Det var det jag själv använde när jag körde Ubuntu. (Sitter nu på Mac och kör fortfarande JOSM) 3. Börja enkelt och fyll på allt eftersom. Försök hitta exempel på hur det redan är gjort och följ dem. Dessutom är vi på svenska mailinglistan snälla och svarar på frågor. mvh Konrad (som lagt upp de flesta cykelbanorna i Umeå) Den 15 maj 2011 12:08 skrev Christoffer Holmstedt christoffer.holmst...@gmail.com: Jag har följt OpenStreetMap en längre tid men inte tagit tillfälle i akt att köpa en GPS, främst på grund av ekonomiska skäl men känner nu att det är dags att prioritera detta. Det jag främst vill bidra med är information till http://www.opencyclemap.org/ . Framförallt gäller det alltså cykelstråk och förhoppningsvis lite längre sträckor som till exempel Sverigeleden här i norr som inte är speciellt väldokumenterad. Sedan det andra är löpspår men här i Luleå är det redan väl taggat, så i dagsläget är inte behovet så stort. Jag har nu några funderingar som jag söker svar på. 1) Jag tränar väldigt mycket så jag undrar om det finns någon GPS/GPS-klocka (helst med pulsmätning) som går att använda till att skapa spår till OpenStreetMap med tillräckligt bra kvalité? 2) Vilka är de bästa alternativen för mjukvara till Linux? (Ubuntu 10.10 sitter jag på för tillfället). 3) Efter att jag bläddrat runt bland wikisidorna på http://wiki.openstreetmap.org så känns det som att det är väldigt mycket som kan gå fel med så många taggar, relationer och indexeringar. Har ni några tips på bästa sättet att komma igång så snabbt som möjligt och har ni tips på någon kom-igång guide? Med vänlig hälsning -- Christoffer Holmstedt ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-se] GPS för cykling, att komma igång och tagga på bästa sätt
2011/5/15 Christoffer Holmstedt christoffer.holmst...@gmail.com: 1) Jag tränar väldigt mycket så jag undrar om det finns någon GPS/GPS-klocka (helst med pulsmätning) som går att använda till att skapa spår till OpenStreetMap med tillräckligt bra kvalité? Jag känner folk som använder pulsband + Android-lur, som kanske kan ses som bättre värde för pengarna än Garmin saker. http://www.rungps.net/wiki/Bluetooth_Heart_Rate_Transmitters_EN Sedan monteras telefonen i en vattentät plastbehållare på cykeln.. :-) ___ Talk-se mailing list Talk-se@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-se
Re: [Talk-ar] cargar poblacion
Estás buscando el tag para esto? population=* http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:population Saludos, Daniel Am 14.05.2011 18:02, schrieb Fabian Alejandro: Se puede cargar la población (cantidad de habitantes) de una localidad? Saludos. ___ Talk-ar mailing list Talk-ar@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ar ___ Talk-ar mailing list Talk-ar@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ar
Re: [Talk-ar] cargar poblacion
gracias, ahora lo purebo. no debe ser muy popular porque el josm no me lo autocompleta. saludos!. 2011/5/15 dan...@web.de Estás buscando el tag para esto? population=* http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:population Saludos, Daniel Am 14.05.2011 18:02, schrieb Fabian Alejandro: Se puede cargar la población (cantidad de habitantes) de una localidad? Saludos. ___ Talk-ar mailing listTalk-ar@openstreetmap.orghttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ar ___ Talk-ar mailing list Talk-ar@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ar ___ Talk-ar mailing list Talk-ar@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ar
[Talk-ee] Esinduskulude kompenseerimisest
Tere! Kas keegi mäletab, kas ma eelmisel aastal Rahvusraamatukogus toimunud GIS-päeva jaoks tehtud T-särkide eest raha sain? Tšekid igatahes andsin kellelegi. Ja kas Maakaart.ee tutvustamise eest mingitel üritustel on ka kompensatsioon võimalik? Kütusekulu ja üritusel osalemistasu kompenseerimisest oleks huvitatud, kui võimalik. Tervitustega, -- Joosep-Georg ___ Talk-ee mailing list Talk-ee@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ee
[Talk-at] hausnummern linz
beim stammtisch im jänner wurde ja von stefan pawel erwähnt, dass die hausnumernfreigabe in linz schon am laufen ist. was ist da der letzte stand? weiß wer von euch genaueres? dürfen wir da jetzt schon zumindest mal offiziell und legal von der doris karte abmalen? flaimo ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Accessibilité pour personnes handicapées (était: Balisage de la dangerosité des routes pour les cyclistes)
ap == Art Penteur art.pent...@gmail.com writes: ap Et la première annonce avait provoqué une réaction (que je trouve ap justifiée) : décrire l'accessibilité, c'est faire du micro-mapping en ap ville : les GPS ne serviront pas à grand-chose, il vaut mieux parler ap de walking papers (ou des plug_in cadastre de JOSM/merkaartor). Tu as tout à fait raison. Nous avions des supports papier de type walking papers (mais en mieux car vectoriels), avec un découpage du centre historique de Toulouse en secteurs, dont voilà un exemple: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1475149/secteur.pdf J'ai crée la carte des secteurs avec Maperitive (outil .NET qui tourne sous Linux avec Mono), avec le style par défaut dans lequel j'ai simplement réduit l'opacité du bâti. On se place sur la zone voulue grace au slippymap, on télécharge les données vecteur correspondants, puis Export SVG au format Inkscape. Excellente manière d'obtenir des rendus vectoriels qu'on peut adapter à son besoin. Une excellente journée (malgré temps gris) avec plus de 30 participants (dont un peu moins d'un tiers de personnes handicapées), qui s'est déroulée dans une super ambiance ... -- Eric Marsden ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Comment tagger un site pollué
De retour de ballade j'ai un ancien terrain industriel (une friche qui n'a plus rien, plus aucun batiment) dont le terrain reste inexploité et pollué (décret préfectoral)... Je sais pas comment le tagger, je trouve rien dans le wiki... je trouve bien contamination=* comme tag complémentaire de boundary=protected_area mais bon ça ressemble pas vraiment une zone protégée et je connais pas la nature exact de la pollution (probablement chimique, c'est un ancien site de recyclage en zone inondable)... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area Tiens d'ailleurs y'a une façon de noter les zones inondables -- Pierre-Alain Dorange OSM experiences : http://www.leretourdelautruche.com/map/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Source de données potentielle: Onema/ROE (Référentiel des Obstacles à l’Ecoulement)
Bonsoir, Les abonné(e)s à la page Potential Datasources ont peut-être remarqué que je viens de rajouter une nouvelle source potentielle: le ROE (Référentiel des Obstacles à l’Ecoulement), édité et publié par l'Onema (Office national de l'eau et des milieux aquatiques): http://www.eaufrance.fr/spip.php?breve239 La base est conséquente (54.000 entrées dans la v2 publiée jeudi) et comprend donc la plupart des barrages, seuils, digues, ponts, écluses... en France métropolitaine. Problème: elle est en licence CC BY-*NC*-SA, donc à priori pas d'import possible pour l'instant à cause le clause NC. Des volontaires pour m'aider à convaincre l'Onema de modifier la licence en CC BY-SA ? Ya t-il déjà eu ce type de discussions avec un organisme public ? Vincent ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Source de données potentielle: Onema/ROE (Référentiel des Obstacles à l’Ecoulement)
Oui, il y a déjà eu des contacts en ce sens, je crois: http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-fr@openstreetmap.org/msg22616.html Le fil s'arrête sur une date de réunion, Gael pourras peut-être en dire plus ? Yves On 15. 05. 11 22:07, Vincent Privat wrote: Bonsoir, Les abonné(e)s à la page Potential Datasources ont peut-être remarqué que je viens de rajouter une nouvelle source potentielle: le ROE (Référentiel des Obstacles à l’Ecoulement), édité et publié par l'Onema (Office national de l'eau et des milieux aquatiques): http://www.eaufrance.fr/spip.php?breve239 La base est conséquente (54.000 entrées dans la v2 publiée jeudi) et comprend donc la plupart des barrages, seuils, digues, ponts, écluses... en France métropolitaine. Problème: elle est en licence CC BY-*NC*-SA, donc à priori pas d'import possible pour l'instant à cause le clause NC. Des volontaires pour m'aider à convaincre l'Onema de modifier la licence en CC BY-SA ? Ya t-il déjà eu ce type de discussions avec un organisme public ? Vincent ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment tagger un site pollué
Le dimanche 15 mai 2011 à 21:27 +0200, Pierre-Alain Dorange a écrit : De retour de ballade j'ai un ancien terrain industriel (une friche qui n'a plus rien, plus aucun batiment) dont le terrain reste inexploité et pollué (décret préfectoral)... Je sais pas comment le tagger, je trouve rien dans le wiki... je trouve bien contamination=* comme tag complémentaire de boundary=protected_area mais bon ça ressemble pas vraiment une zone protégée et je connais pas la nature exact de la pollution (probablement chimique, c'est un ancien site de recyclage en zone inondable)... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area C'est quelque chose qui m'intéresse également, ce genre de zones sont fréquentes par chez moi. Je n'ai pas d'idée sur la manière de procéder. Philippe ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment tagger un site pollué
Perso je verrai un truc du style: landuse=brownfield + contamination=yes + access=no + url=le lien vers le décret dont tu parles Le 15 mai 2011 23:06, Philippe Pary phili...@cleo-carto.com a écrit : Le dimanche 15 mai 2011 à 21:27 +0200, Pierre-Alain Dorange a écrit : De retour de ballade j'ai un ancien terrain industriel (une friche qui n'a plus rien, plus aucun batiment) dont le terrain reste inexploité et pollué (décret préfectoral)... Je sais pas comment le tagger, je trouve rien dans le wiki... je trouve bien contamination=* comme tag complémentaire de boundary=protected_area mais bon ça ressemble pas vraiment une zone protégée et je connais pas la nature exact de la pollution (probablement chimique, c'est un ancien site de recyclage en zone inondable)... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area C'est quelque chose qui m'intéresse également, ce genre de zones sont fréquentes par chez moi. Je n'ai pas d'idée sur la manière de procéder. Philippe ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment tagger un site pollué
Ou landuse=wasteland: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wasteland Le 16 mai 2011 00:55, Vincent Privat vincent.pri...@gmail.com a écrit : Perso je verrai un truc du style: landuse=brownfield + contamination=yes + access=no + url=le lien vers le décret dont tu parles Le 15 mai 2011 23:06, Philippe Pary phili...@cleo-carto.com a écrit : Le dimanche 15 mai 2011 à 21:27 +0200, Pierre-Alain Dorange a écrit : De retour de ballade j'ai un ancien terrain industriel (une friche qui n'a plus rien, plus aucun batiment) dont le terrain reste inexploité et pollué (décret préfectoral)... Je sais pas comment le tagger, je trouve rien dans le wiki... je trouve bien contamination=* comme tag complémentaire de boundary=protected_area mais bon ça ressemble pas vraiment une zone protégée et je connais pas la nature exact de la pollution (probablement chimique, c'est un ancien site de recyclage en zone inondable)... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area C'est quelque chose qui m'intéresse également, ce genre de zones sont fréquentes par chez moi. Je n'ai pas d'idée sur la manière de procéder. Philippe ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Comment tagger un site pollué
Vincent Privat vincent.pri...@gmail.com wrote: Ou landuse=wasteland: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wasteland wasteland semble en effet approprié, car brownfield suppose une réutilisation prévue ce qui n'est pas le cas présent. -- Pierre-Alain Dorange OSM experiences : http://www.leretourdelautruche.com/map/ ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-ja] waterwayの訳(tunnel=culvelt)
culvert、訳しました。 当方は50音順を更新しています。 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Howto_Map_A ぜひ相互に最新化を進めましょう。 50音順の方はタグ付けが不明な地物を書き込んで頂ければ 気がついたときにタグのあるものは付けていますので どなたでもご利用ください。 やや逸れますが タグの電子ブック（のようなもの）が作れるといいなと思っています。 印刷もできて、スマーフォンでも持ち運べるというもの。 原本はexcelやcalcの表形式で更新して、それを例えばJSON形式に変換して ｊQueryとかでHTMLの表に整形するとか。 チャレンジしてみたい方がおられれば。。。 東 11/05/15 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp: JA:Map featuresの、新しいテンプレートへの移行をしてます。 waterway で tunnel=culvelt というのが追加になっています。 とりあえずそのままにしていますので、どなたかお時間の 取れる方、訳していただけると助かります。 今はwaterway まで手直し終わりました。次はrailwayだけど、 これはちょっと分量あるなあ。先は長い。 oota ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Heritage Trees Project - launch event report
On 14/05/2011 18:28, TimSC wrote: On 14/05/11 17:39, Andy Mabbett wrote: The Woodland Trust do something similar (no URL, sorry, as I'm mobile). Do you mean http://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/en/visit-woods/ ? I already asked for their data set but they were not very communicative... It would be cool to have though. (A fairly comprehensive list of public and permissive access woods for the UK and their operator.) TimSC ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb I'm sure Andy means this http://www.ancient-tree-hunt.org.uk/discoveries/interactivemap/ which I think is backed by the Woodland Trust. My own experience discussions with local tree experts suggest that the data collected by this survey is fairly unreliable. There are too many 'citizen science' programmes of this kind which don't produce really useful data because they lack any quality thresholds. It's best to see them as designed to get people involved: essentially they are marketing exercises. I've got a blog entry on the stocks about a similar issue: I'll probably end up doing several. To put a bit of context on the 10,000 trees in the Kent programme: the Girona tree import was 28,000 trees and I think Tom Chance's Lambeth set is of a similar size. The figure I have at the back of my mind for Nottingham street trees is 8000, but I suspect that this is too low. I know that Nottingham University Campus the adjacent Wollaton Park have over 3000 significant trees (probably excluding ones in woodland): these are in our local tree expert's patch. With his guidance the council have produced some excellent leaflets on trees in local parks, such as The Arboretum http://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=3383. I presume the BCTV Kent project is therefore restricted to large trees: one of the problems with the Ancient Trees survey is that it has tended to be affected by wild overestimates of trees size and age. Another is that prominent and fast growing trees (think Poplars, which are short-lived) tend to be over-represented I've got a limited experience of a systematic tree survey: I attempted to locate all the Oaks in Attenborough Nature Reserve, mapped them http://www.flickr.com/photos/sk53_osm/5492103506 with GPS measured BHG (Breast Height Girth). In an area of around 250 ha this took me 5 1.5 hour visits for around 100 trees from small saplings to ones upto 3 m BHG. I did this for the following reasons: a) because the ability to say I found insect x on tree y was useful; b) to see how much work was required; c) oaks are relatively rare at Attenborough so it was an achievable set of data to collect. The data set is now very out-of-date: I have not resurveyed to see which trees have survived the new flood defense work (most by the railway line will have gone for good), and I'm continually noticing trees I missed. Tree identification is often non-trivial: a professional botantist I know was hired to re-survey the Brithdir Arboretum within Coed-y-Brenin because the orginal planting plan had either not survived, or which trees had survived was not known. He told me that identifying some individual trees took him hours. Certain heritage trees have been surveyed on a national level for decades: notably ancient Yews, and the native Black Poplar http://sppaccounts.bsbi.org.uk/content/populus-nigra-1 (/Populus nigra betulifolia/). In the latter case a book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Poplar-Ecology-History-Conservation/dp/1905119054 was published by the Botanical Society's Black Poplar referee Fiona Cooper. However, the map was selective as landlords have been known to fell trees to prevent visits by Poplar geeks. Many counties include native Black Poplar in their BAP (Biodiversity Action Plans). Richard Mabey has good accounts of both these trees in /Flora Britannica/. So to summarise: its important to have a clear objective before mapping trees. So far on OSM most mapping of trees has been casual, and therefore implicitly is for the renderer. I can think of several areas where clear objectives can be formulated: * In many urban contexts - parkland, amenity grassland, churchyards - mapping isolated trees or groups of trees seems both achievable and potentially useful. * Tom Chance (and others) are interested in locating fruit trees: again achievable. * I'm probably more interested in rare or unusual trees which are usually specimen trees in parks and larger gardens, and I'm keen that they be accurately identified. Having a known location of a given tree means that one can visit that tree and familiarise oneself with its appearance. It's then a lot easier to spot other specimens.This, though, is really a complete activity in itself. A reasonably accurate identification is what really adds value, and that's the hard bit.
Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Heritage Trees Project - launch event report
On 14 May 2011 18:28, TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: On 14/05/11 17:39, Andy Mabbett wrote: The Woodland Trust do something similar (no URL, sorry, as I'm mobile). Do you mean http://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/en/visit-woods/ ? I already asked for their data set but they were not very communicative... It would be cool to have though. (A fairly comprehensive list of public and permissive access woods for the UK and their operator.) I was thinking of this: http://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/en/take-part/ancient-tree-hunt/http://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/en/take-part/ancient-tree-hunt/Pages/ath.aspx -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Kent Heritage Trees Project - launch event report
Here's another one: The Open Elm Project is the result of a collaboration between Island-based Red Robot Studios http://www.redrobotstudios.com/ and Isle of Man Department of Environment, Food and Agriculturehttp://www.gov.im/daff/trees_and_plants/trees/elm/ . The aim of the project is to harness the power of the public to help create a detailed profile of the Island's elm tree population, and to help identify and report trees which may be infected withDutch Elm Diseasehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_elm_disease . We have developed this website which enables you to submit the location, health and a photograph of an elm you've spotted, and have built an iPhonehttp://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/open-elm/id431082576?mt=8 and Android http://www.openelm.org.im/about/# mobile apps which makes it easy to record trees while you are out and about. http://www.openelm.org.im/ http://www.openelm.org.im/ -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Bristol OSM meet-up: Tuesday May 17, 6.30pm, Cafe Kino, Stokes Croft
Meet at Cafe Kino, 108 Stokes Croft[1], 6.30pm for a bite to eat. Decamp to the Hillgrove pub[2] for good beer from about 8pm. No agenda! Dave F, Tim François me, at least, will attend. All welcome. - Laurence [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/108841072 [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/93114307 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 13-05-2011
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media. http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/13-05-2011 There have been some missing tiles from Lambertus's map (the red rectangles), I don't see any at the moment, so you may want to update if you had issues with the last set. If you buy a new card (especially SDHC), some are FAT16 from the factory. I had to reformat it to let me create a 2GB file. I got a report that the 2GB version doesn't fit on a 2GB card. I reduced the amount of space that each version uses by 5%. Hopefully that will let things fit better and allow for more space for stuff like track logs. -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] 2010 NAIP imagery finally available via WMS
I'm not sure if all 2010 imagery has been added, but some from Florida (where the latest available had been 2007) was just added in the past week, and some in Kentucky was also added recently. This can be used in JOSM and perhaps other editors via the URLs on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/National_Agriculture_Imagery_Program . ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] 2010 NAIP imagery finally available via WMS
On 5/15/2011 5:01 PM, Ian Dees wrote:
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
mailto:nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure if all 2010 imagery has been added, but some from
Florida (where the latest available had been 2007) was just added in
the past week, and some in Kentucky was also added recently. This
can be used in JOSM and perhaps other editors via the URLs on
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/National_Agriculture_Imagery_Program
.
The most recent NAIP imagery (most from 2010) has been available here
via TMS for a few months:
http://cube.telascience.org/tilecache/tilecache.py/1.0.0/NAIP_ALL/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
Was this announced anywhere? I seem to remember it having the same
imagery as that served by the USGS when this was posted:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2010-November/004851.html
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Re: [Talk-us] 2010 NAIP imagery finally available via WMS
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/15/2011 5:01 PM, Ian Dees wrote:
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com
mailto:nerou...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure if all 2010 imagery has been added, but some from
Florida (where the latest available had been 2007) was just added in
the past week, and some in Kentucky was also added recently. This
can be used in JOSM and perhaps other editors via the URLs on
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/National_Agriculture_Imagery_Program
.
The most recent NAIP imagery (most from 2010) has been available here
via TMS for a few months:
http://cube.telascience.org/tilecache/tilecache.py/1.0.0/NAIP_ALL/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
Was this announced anywhere? I seem to remember it having the same imagery
as that served by the USGS when this was posted:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2010-November/004851.html
I have it bookmarked as
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2010-December/004859.html
but the URL shown is different than the one Ian posted.
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[Talk-us] More bad NHD imports
OK, seriously... I guess I just need to save myself some effort and start using a form letter for this. I was looking at more untagged/unconnected nodes in the area and found two more users who left a steaming pile of nodes in their wake: jumbanho: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7399894 stucki1: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2798639 These are just representative changesets. The total number of bad nodes is: jumbanho: 6,844 stucki1: 30,226 And that is just in North/South Dakota since that's the bbox I was using when I noticed it. I'm guessing there may be more in Minnesota. Both of these users are still active so I'm hoping they will respond to my messages, unlike the Oklahoma user. I told them to get on talk-us if they weren't already so we can discuss more. I will hold off on deleting them just yet on the off chance that there is a way to recover and fix things with active users involved. Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] note to abbreviation bot authors
i recently spent some quality time doing tiger review in a community that has a rather straightforward naming system for its avenues. it starts with A Avenue to the south and steps through the alphabet as the avenues appear to the north. a de-abbreviation bot had been run on the area. it should most assuredly _not_ have corrected E Ave to East Avenue, nor should it have corrected N Ave to North Avenue. please be careful with these things, folks. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] More bad NHD imports
jumbanho does indeed have nodes in Minnesota which brings his total in the area up to 10,569 And I discovered some new badness in Minnesota. Jeff Ollie with an impressive 60,290 empty nodes. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3845229 Most of the features uploaded by him seem to have been re-uploaded by someone else at a later date. Luckily the uploads weren't from the same source so they didn't produce duplicate nodes. Also in the high score list: HokiePilot: 7,371 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2552833 iandees: 2,388 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1159730 Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
