[talk-au] Massive flooding

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
Not sure how useful it'd be in Australia, but the massive floods all
over Australia, except for the bush fires near Perth of course, might
do well to map a lot of effected areas from Bing where coverage
exists.

It might be worth while trying to get additional coverage for areas
effected for humanitarian reasons, after all they're searching for
bodies in Toowoomba not just people. Anyone have any ideas who could
be approached for such imagery?

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Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding

2011-01-11 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 19:02 +1000, John Smith wrote:

 It might be worth while trying to get additional coverage for areas
 effected for humanitarian reasons, after all they're searching for
 bodies in Toowoomba not just people. Anyone have any ideas who could
 be approached for such imagery?

Not that its terribly useful for the OSM project at the moment, but
hopefully the nearmap guys might do some imagery as great as they did
after the NSW floods in December.  Anyone from NearMap got any reponses
to when you might be flying affected QLD areas again?

David


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Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding

2011-01-11 Thread Stephen Hope
I heard that they were planning to do flights up north a few days ago,
but couldn't get flight permissions, what with the state of emergency.
 And in the southeast (actually, pretty much everywhere, today), you'd
get lovely grey clouds right now.  In fact, if you look at Brisbane,
it hasn't been updated for months, for that very reason.

Stephen

On 11 January 2011 20:44, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
 Not that its terribly useful for the OSM project at the moment, but
 hopefully the nearmap guys might do some imagery as great as they did
 after the NSW floods in December.  Anyone from NearMap got any reponses
 to when you might be flying affected QLD areas again?

 David

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Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
On 11 January 2011 20:44, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 19:02 +1000, John Smith wrote:

 It might be worth while trying to get additional coverage for areas
 effected for humanitarian reasons, after all they're searching for
 bodies in Toowoomba not just people. Anyone have any ideas who could
 be approached for such imagery?

 Not that its terribly useful for the OSM project at the moment, but
 hopefully the nearmap guys might do some imagery as great as they did
 after the NSW floods in December.  Anyone from NearMap got any reponses
 to when you might be flying affected QLD areas again?

While this might be good directly for those dealing with floods, it
would be less than ideal for deriving from, some parts of the St
George area wasn't very easy to derive from etc.

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[talk-au] Fwd: [Tagging] tagging world heritage (UNESCO) and other protected areas/features

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
Martin, for your information there was a bit of work done on this sort
of thing in the past for Aussie parks covered by this, based on data
from http://data.australia.gov.au I think.


-- Forwarded message --
From: M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
Date: 11 January 2011 22:34
Subject: [Tagging] tagging world heritage (UNESCO) and other protected
areas/features
To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagg...@openstreetmap.org


Looking up the wiki there are several proposals for protected / listed features.

1.
The oldest is this:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/unesco_world_heritage
suggesting historic=unesco_world_heritage

actually I'd like to deprecate this because using the key historic
will create collisions on many features (that are historic themselves,
like historic=archeological_site), and there is the more detailed (2)
covering the same features.

2.
There is also this:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/heritage

The page suggests to use abbreviations as values, which is not
according to our general tagging rules (and IMHO pointless, why not
use the full word and get a more understandable mapping?). But there
are some useful ideas for subtags on the page.

3.
The most universal feature is IMHO this:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area

allowing for cultural, natural and other protection types. A problem
might arise if a feature is at the same time protected for different
reasons.

IMHO we could try to unify those different proposals. Are there
already practical experiences / tags in wider use? Are there other
proposals covering the same issues?

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
Main water supply dam for Brisbane (Wivenhoe) was under 40% a few
years ago, it hit 170% today because of all the flash flooding in and
around Toowoomba.

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Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding

2011-01-11 Thread John Smith
On 12 January 2011 03:51, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
 Main water supply dam for Brisbane (Wivenhoe) was under 40% a few
 years ago, it hit 170% today because of all the flash flooding in and
 around Toowoomba.


For those in Brisbane, power is being cut to some suburbs at 7 am
today (12/1/11) and may not go back on until after flood levels drop.

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Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding

2011-01-11 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:44 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 19:02 +1000, John Smith wrote:

 It might be worth while trying to get additional coverage for areas
 effected for humanitarian reasons, after all they're searching for
 bodies in Toowoomba not just people. Anyone have any ideas who could
 be approached for such imagery?

 Not that its terribly useful for the OSM project at the moment, but
 hopefully the nearmap guys might do some imagery as great as they did
 after the NSW floods in December.  Anyone from NearMap got any reponses
 to when you might be flying affected QLD areas again?

@NearMap: We are on stand-by in #Brisbane awaiting the clouds to
either lift or clear, so we can capture #qldfloods #thebigwet #qld
#bnefloods
http://twitter.com/NearMap/status/25057890825936896

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Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding

2011-01-11 Thread Ben Last
Cloudbase was at 1600' last time James looked at it, which is a bit too low;
I just spoke to him and whilst we can fly at 1000' if we want (for a 1cm
survey), the buildings in Brisbane are a bit higher than in Perth :)
Last time (Wagga) we managed to go from takeoff to images online in 8 days.
 Not making any promises on how fast we'll do it this time, but you can be
sure we'll be working at it...
Cheers
Ben

On 12 January 2011 14:03, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:44 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au
 wrote:
  On Tue, 2011-01-11 at 19:02 +1000, John Smith wrote:
 
  It might be worth while trying to get additional coverage for areas
  effected for humanitarian reasons, after all they're searching for
  bodies in Toowoomba not just people. Anyone have any ideas who could
  be approached for such imagery?
 
  Not that its terribly useful for the OSM project at the moment, but
  hopefully the nearmap guys might do some imagery as great as they did
  after the NSW floods in December.  Anyone from NearMap got any reponses
  to when you might be flying affected QLD areas again?

 @NearMap: We are on stand-by in #Brisbane awaiting the clouds to
 either lift or clear, so we can capture #qldfloods #thebigwet #qld
 #bnefloods
 http://twitter.com/NearMap/status/25057890825936896

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[talk-au] some contemporary mapping mashup or (map mashupping)

2011-01-11 Thread Jim Croft
http://mapvisage.appspot.com/static/floodmap/map.html

jim

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[talk-au] Question about source of low-resolution NearMap images

2011-01-11 Thread Mark Pulley
I'm working out whether I am able to accept the new OSM terms. I  
haven't used the detailed NearMap aerial photos, but what I have used  
is a low-quality image at zoom 13 and 14. I used these images for the  
Kiewa River in northern Victoria (this was before the detailed imagery  
for northern Victoria was put in, and most of the river is still  
outside the high-resolution images), and for an airstrip on Flinders  
Island. Are these low-resolution images public domain (in which case I  
can accept the new OSM terms), or are they copyrighted (in which case  
I will need to replace this data with Yahoo or Bing data prior to  
accepting)? (Bing imagery is much better, so the river will probably  
need to be retraced anyway.)


Mark P.



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Re: [talk-au] Question about source of low-resolution NearMap images

2011-01-11 Thread Ben Last
If they're the Landsat/Blue Marble images that we use as the rest of the
world layers where we don't have detailed PhotoMaps, then they are NASA
data (see 
http://www.nearmap.com/legal/copyrighthttp://www.hw009i.nearmap.com/legal/copyright).
 It's pretty easy to spot the difference, as in this location:
http://www.nearmap.com/?...@-36.244965,147.034836ll=-36.244965,147.034836z=13t=hnmd=20101117
...Our PhotoMaps to the west, Landsat to the east.

I believe that you can use the NASA data, but you should check the NASA
pages (http://landsat.gsfc.nasa.gov/,
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/BlueMarble/) to be sure.

Cheers
b

On 12 January 2011 15:01, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote:

 I'm working out whether I am able to accept the new OSM terms. I haven't
 used the detailed NearMap aerial photos, but what I have used is a
 low-quality image at zoom 13 and 14. I used these images for the Kiewa River
 in northern Victoria (this was before the detailed imagery for northern
 Victoria was put in, and most of the river is still outside the
 high-resolution images), and for an airstrip on Flinders Island. Are these
 low-resolution images public domain (in which case I can accept the new OSM
 terms), or are they copyrighted (in which case I will need to replace this
 data with Yahoo or Bing data prior to accepting)? (Bing imagery is much
 better, so the river will probably need to be retraced anyway.)

 Mark P.



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