Re: [talk-au] Missing streets in Sydney
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: this is the downside to tracing. Once an area looks well mapped, there is little incentive for anyone to go there to map it properly. I'd really like it if all roads that don't have names yet (in OSM) were just deleted. Then II'd be much more inclined to drive there and collect all the infomation. Strong disagreement here. A few reasons: 1) Roads without names are almost as valuable as roads with names for certain uses. (Eg, choosing a route to save to a GPS works just as well without names) 2) There are strong arguments that there is no copyright in street names. If that argument is ever developed, we could easily fill in all the street names from other sources without doing the ground surveying. 3) there is little incentive for anyone to go there - perhaps subjective, but I'm much more motivated to go to a well-mapped area to check on specific details than to go to an empty area where no one has even done the low-hanging fruit (ie, traced the streets). Surveying suburban streets by GPS these days makes about as much sense as using a horse and cart on a freeway... Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Undreadful Imports
Despite the danger of imports turnimg OSM into a dumping ground of substandard out-of-date data, there is (In Australia's case) some very good data that could be imported. Someone told me that currently, due to the recent disasters (fire and flood), mapping for disaster preparedness and response is HUGE in the minds of the governments involved.They also felt that anyone making any half decent case for release of ANY government data, under any licence whatsoever would almost certainly be successful. There is one set of data that I believe is high quality, up-to-date, extremely compatable with OSM aims, and is also very hard to be mapped by the public.This import may well already be in the planning but when I get back to Australia I will make sure we get it rolling. Other data that we/I could look at trying to get might be 1) Fire hydrants of the ACT (This one could be a bit difficult apparently). 2) pd licenced postcode/administrative boundaries. Anyone have any wishlists for (useful) data??? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111
Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of other people. I've tried contacting them to no avail. Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through my web browser. Thanks, Pete *(Reposted after signing up as a member)* ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111
Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of other people. I've tried contacting them to no avail. Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through my web browser. Thanks, Pete ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111
On 31/08/2011 01:08, Pete Ramjet wrote: Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of other people. I've tried contacting them to no avail. Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through my web browser. I can just see the one changeset for 99scilla111 - 8994191. Looking at the area in ITO's OSM mapper, there's only one more recent changeset in that area and it doesn't seem to overlap it, so a clean revert should be possible. If you ask on the #OSM IRC channel you might get an instantaneous response; if not I might be able to have a go in an hour or so. Cheers, Andy PS - and in case anyone is wondering whether this really is vandalism it certainly looks like it - changing Old Northern Road to Young Southern Road, and a landuse = retail with a Coles in it to tourism = theme_park. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Undreadful Imports
Hi. AFAIK there is no PD source of postcode data. Merging an import of postcode and/or admin boundaries with existing data might be quite a time consuming job. Even if you assume that all the current rev 1 admin/postcode boundaries get removed at some point (because the ABS does not agree to the new license) that still leaves a problem for any boundaries that have been edited. - Ben Kelley. On Aug 31, 2011 9:53 AM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Despite the danger of imports turnimg OSM into a dumping ground of substandard out-of-date data, there is (In Australia's case) some very good data that could be imported. Someone told me that currently, due to the recent disasters (fire and flood), mapping for disaster preparedness and response is HUGE in the minds of the governments involved.They also felt that anyone making any half decent case for release of ANY government data, under any licence whatsoever would almost certainly be successful. There is one set of data that I believe is high quality, up-to-date, extremely compatable with OSM aims, and is also very hard to be mapped by the public.This import may well already be in the planning but when I get back to Australia I will make sure we get it rolling. Other data that we/I could look at trying to get might be 1) Fire hydrants of the ACT (This one could be a bit difficult apparently). 2) pd licenced postcode/administrative boundaries. Anyone have any wishlists for (useful) data??? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111
Hi Pete, Unfortunately because you have modified some of these it's not possible to revert the changesets. Have a look here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vandalism so the next step is to report it to the data working group to have a block placed on this user. Explain that you have already fixed the vandalism and attempted to contact them. Cheers Ross On 31/08/11 08:08, Pete Ramjet wrote: Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of other people. I've tried contacting them to no avail. Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through my web browser. Thanks, Pete /(Reposted after signing up as a member)/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au