Re: [talk-au] Missing streets in Sydney

2011-08-30 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
 this is the downside to tracing.  Once an area looks well mapped, there is
 little incentive for anyone to go there to map it properly. I'd really like
 it if all roads that don't have names yet (in OSM) were just deleted. Then
 II'd be much more inclined to drive there and collect all the infomation.

Strong disagreement here. A few reasons:
1) Roads without names are almost as valuable as roads with names for
certain uses. (Eg, choosing a route to save to a GPS works just as
well without names)
2) There are strong arguments that there is no copyright in street
names. If that argument is ever developed, we could easily fill in all
the street names from other sources without doing the ground
surveying.
3) there is little incentive for anyone to go there - perhaps
subjective, but I'm much more motivated to go to a well-mapped area to
check on specific details than to go to an empty area where no one has
even done the low-hanging fruit (ie, traced the streets). Surveying
suburban streets by GPS these days makes about as much sense as using
a horse and cart on a freeway...

Steve

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[talk-au] Undreadful Imports

2011-08-30 Thread Nick Hocking
Despite the danger of imports turnimg OSM into a dumping ground of
substandard out-of-date data, there is (In Australia's case) some very good
data that could be imported.

Someone told me that currently, due to the recent disasters (fire and
flood), mapping for disaster preparedness and response is HUGE in the minds
of the governments involved.They also felt that anyone making any half
decent case for release of ANY government data, under any licence whatsoever
would almost certainly be successful.

There is one set of data that I believe is high quality, up-to-date,
extremely compatable with OSM aims, and is also very hard to be mapped by
the public.This import may well already be in the planning but when I get
back to Australia I will make sure we get it rolling.

Other data that we/I could look at trying to get might be

1) Fire hydrants of the ACT (This one could be a bit difficult apparently).
2) pd licenced postcode/administrative boundaries.

Anyone have any wishlists for (useful) data???
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[talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111

2011-08-30 Thread Pete Ramjet
 Noticed this morning that user
99scilla111http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111
has vandalised a large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It
really annoys me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work
of other people.

I've tried contacting them to no avail.

Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through my
web browser.

Thanks,
Pete

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[talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111

2011-08-30 Thread Pete Ramjet
Noticed this morning that user
99scilla111http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111
has vandalised a large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It
really annoys me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work
of other people.

I've tried contacting them to no avail.

Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through my
web browser.

Thanks,
Pete
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Re: [talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111

2011-08-30 Thread SomeoneElse

On 31/08/2011 01:08, Pete Ramjet wrote:
Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a 
large number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys 
me when somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of 
other people.

I've tried contacting them to no avail.
Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through 
my web browser.




I can just see the one changeset for 99scilla111 - 8994191.  Looking at 
the area in ITO's OSM mapper, there's only one more recent changeset in 
that area and it doesn't seem to overlap it, so a clean revert should be 
possible.


If you ask on the #OSM IRC channel you might get an instantaneous 
response; if not I might be able to have a go in an hour or so.


Cheers,
Andy

PS - and in case anyone is wondering whether this really is vandalism it 
certainly looks like it - changing Old Northern Road to Young 
Southern Road, and a landuse = retail with a Coles in it to tourism 
= theme_park.


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Re: [talk-au] Undreadful Imports

2011-08-30 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi.

AFAIK there is no PD source of postcode data.

Merging an import of postcode and/or admin boundaries with existing data
might be quite a time consuming job.

Even if you assume that all the current rev 1 admin/postcode boundaries get
removed at some point (because the ABS does not agree to the new license)
that still leaves a problem for any boundaries that have been edited.

  - Ben Kelley.
On Aug 31, 2011 9:53 AM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
 Despite the danger of imports turnimg OSM into a dumping ground of
 substandard out-of-date data, there is (In Australia's case) some very
good
 data that could be imported.

 Someone told me that currently, due to the recent disasters (fire and
 flood), mapping for disaster preparedness and response is HUGE in the
minds
 of the governments involved.They also felt that anyone making any half
 decent case for release of ANY government data, under any licence
whatsoever
 would almost certainly be successful.

 There is one set of data that I believe is high quality, up-to-date,
 extremely compatable with OSM aims, and is also very hard to be mapped by
 the public.This import may well already be in the planning but when I get
 back to Australia I will make sure we get it rolling.

 Other data that we/I could look at trying to get might be

 1) Fire hydrants of the ACT (This one could be a bit difficult
apparently).
 2) pd licenced postcode/administrative boundaries.

 Anyone have any wishlists for (useful) data???
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Re: [talk-au] Vandalism by 99scilla111

2011-08-30 Thread 4x4falcon

Hi Pete,

Unfortunately because you have modified some of these it's not possible 
to revert the changesets.


Have a look here:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vandalism

so the next step is to report it to the data working group to have a 
block placed on this user.


Explain that you have already fixed the vandalism and attempted to 
contact them.


Cheers
Ross


On 31/08/11 08:08, Pete Ramjet wrote:

Noticed this morning that user 99scilla111
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/99scilla111 has vandalised a large
number of roads/buildings/etc since 12 August. It really annoys me when
somebody goes out of their way to detroy the good work of other people.
I've tried contacting them to no avail.
Is it possible to remove their changesets? I only use Potlatch through
my web browser.
Thanks,
Pete
/(Reposted after signing up as a member)/



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