Re: [talk-au] M31 at Holbrook
On 15/11/2013, at 11:14 AM, Arthur Geeson wrote: Hi, Yesterday I drove down the M31 and left the GPS running and this morning I uploaded the gpx 'Parramatta to Lancefield'. I get extremely good correlation all the way with the exception of the new Holbrook by-pass. I was wondering if we should get some local confirmation before making the changes to the map as some other local streets are affected? Thanks Arthur (geesona) It so happens that I did some traces of the bypass almost 2 weeks ago (at the start of my holidays) including ramps, and will be going back through Holbrook tomorrow morning (on the way home from holidays) to get details of some of the other local street closures. (I was going to stay in Holbrook tonight, but only got as far as Albury before I decided to stop for the night.) I had originally added the bypass as highway=construction, source=extrapolation (or something similar), once the bypass was opened no-one bothered to check the route when it was changed to highway=motorway - including adding non-existent bridges over roads (they have either been closed, or the road actually doesn't cross it). I was also going to ask about the route numbers for the Hume Hwy/Freeway. In NSW it is M31 all the way (the older A31 signs between Albury and Gundagai have been replaced by M31.) In Victoria, most of the signs have M31 in the National Highway shield, but some newer signs have just M31 (no shield). Some newer signs on M39 have also had the shield removed. Is it safe to remove the network=NH tags from these routes? Mark P. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Geoscience NATMAP 250K Topo Maps
From: Andrew Harvey [mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: [talk-au] Geoscience NATMAP 250K Topo Maps We'd have to get confirmation that data source was happy with attribution in accordance with ODbL sections 4.2 and 4.3 which are keep intact any copyright or Database Right notices or a notice associated with the Produced Work reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, views, accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced Work aware that Content was obtained from the [the datasource] That is a pity. The fact that OSM can't accept CC BY licensed works is reminding me why I stopped contributing to OSM many months ago... If taken literally CC BY's attribution requirements are very onerous. Creative Commons themselves appears to recognize this and the 4.0 drafts have much more reasonable attribution language, more in line with the ODbL. Even under CC BY-SA there were some data providers who felt that the conventional attribution methods for web maps were insufficient and we still couldn't use CC BY data without confirmation. I believe when CC 4.0 comes out its attribution will be compatible with ODC attribution, so we'll finally stop having to deal with the CC attribution flaws. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Geoscience NATMAP 250K Topo Maps
On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 18:30 +1100, Andrew Harvey wrote: but I don't see the benifit in hosting them when GA already do a pretty good job at this. If your application doesn't support z/y/x then patch it, and if you can't it would be much simpler to just proxy the GA tile server to give a z/x/y endpoint. In the case of FoxtrotGPS, I'll prepopulate its cache with the GA files, transforming from z/y/x to z/x/y in the process. FoxtrotGPS always checks it's cache before looking to download. Not hard. FoxtrotGPS only looks for .png files but if it finds JPEG files with a .png extension, its quite happy :-) David ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] M31 at Holbrook
Hi Arthur, mark, About four weeks ago I went down to Melbourne, for a bike ride and did have my GPS on through Holbrook. I saw someone had put the bypass in so I didn't think to check it. I've just uploaded my GPS and it matches the other one very well and is substantially different to the construction ways. Last Year I wen down to Nagambie lakes ( for a bike ride) and surveyed most of Holbrook (pre bypass) on the way back. A lot of this is now wrong, because of the bypass. Mark, I'll be going back down to Nagambie Lakes for the same ride this year (in two weeks), so If you run out of time or miss any roads, I will be able to finish them off. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
