Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 107, Issue 4
On Thu, 5 May 2016 09:50:58 AM Timothy Ney wrote: > If for example, we demote all of the "towns" between Rockhampton > and Mackay to Hamlets or Villages, we are going to have 300 km of highway > with nothing shown at higher levels. At present, each of the small towns > (may have 1 pub, some services, a shop and a few houses), are labelled as > towns, and appear nicely if you zoom to a level where you can see Mackay > and Rockhampton on the same map. These "towns" indicate to drivers where > they are likely to find at least some services easily. It is difficult, > unless you know the areas, to zoom in on a particular area to locate a > "village" or "hamlet" on a 300km piece of highway, where the "towns: are > 30-40km apart. Combining this thought with railway services, rather than an absolute structure for applying tags, what about a relative one? That is, the concept of hamlet vs village vs town is according to importance, which, historically was population, church etc. Today, a group of buildings with a service station ( and known opening hours) is more important on a main / major highway, than the same size grouping without vehicular services. Similarly, places on a railway line where passenger services stop is considered more important (profitable) by the railways than those in-between, even if the populations are the same. I suppose this could be extended to places with an aerodrome with sealed and or longer runway(s) being more important than those with un-sealed strips. -- Regards Simon Slater Registered Linux User #463789 http://linuxcounter.net ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] place=? An oldie but no past conclusion.
On Thu, 5 May 2016 10:10:35 AM Ian Sergeant wrote: > 1. Any attempt to make something render on sparse parts of the map, is > a rendering issue. Any renderer is free to pre-process the data based > on a population and remoteness algorithm if they wish. > > 2. Personally, I make anything a town if it has services. If it has a > pub, a take-away, a supermarket, a post-office, and a fuel station, > then it's a town. I save hamlet for a population grouping without any > services, and a locality for a place where there is essentially no > population clustering. This is a natural skew towards remoter > destinations becoming towns, because they are service towns for > surrounding areas, rather than necessarily having large populations > themselves. Post offices may be a good guide. 25 years ago there were at least 4 post offices between here (Swan Hill) and Kerang. Now there is only one at Lake Boga, but all the other post codes are still in place, mail routing through either Kerang or Swan Hill. The other places, Lake Charm, Mystic Park and Tresco, have a small group of houses, Lk Charm has a shop and caravan park, Mystic has a pub. The passenger train doesn't stop at any of these stations anymore either, only the grain trains. -- Regards Simon Slater Registered Linux User #463789 http://linuxcounter.net ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] osmaustralia.org website and Garmin .img files - current status ?
My apologies - fixing that process has been on my list for a long time (years...). The computer it runs on for some reason just shuts down randomly, so I often boot it up at work and let it run, but it doesn't stay up long enough to get through a generation run. I moved most of the scripts off the old computer today onto a newer machine, and rebuilt them, but got side tracked at work and only got some basic testing done. I have upgraded the mkgmap version as well, so hopefully a few of the newer features will appear (I've got to experiment with a few of the settings, and I need to clean up a couple of the tpy files) I'll try and finish it tomorrow hopefully - just got to cleanup the zip and upload process and we will be away. If anyone wants the various scripts I use so they can run the whole thing themselves (it's on Windows not linux, so it's a little bit of batch file fun, although I was going to port them to powershell for fun), email me - the new file/folder layout I put together today makes it a little easier to manage the various files, and easier to add in other areas to generate. Matt On 4/05/2016 11:41 PM, Ian Steer wrote: Does anyone know what’s happening with the osmaustralia.org website, and the regular updates of Garmin .img files ? They used to be updated roughly weekly, but haven’t been updated since February. (I use these files to update my Garmin GPS with the results of my (and everyone else’s) OSM updates.) Ian ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] osmaustralia.org website and Garmin .img files -, current status ?
Ian, I haven't used that site for ages. I get the australia-oceania pbf file from geofabrik.de (updated daily) and use splitter.jar and mkgmap.jar (both from www.mkgmap.org.uk) to create my own gmapsupp.img file (I'm still using a GPSMap 60CSx). I do this mainly because I can merge contour lines from Shonky Maps onto the final img file. The whole process took a little over an hour on my old P4 running at 2.66GHz with 2G RAM. Haven't timed it on the new rocket ship yet ;-) Happy to pass on my process if anyone is interested. Ian VK1IAN ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
