Re: [talk-au] Large number of Tasmanian boundaries removed

2017-04-26 Thread Simon Poole
NP then.

Simon


Am 26.04.2017 um 13:55 schrieb Andrew Davidson:
> Yeap, it was a undiscussed import from a dataset we don't have
> permission to use in OSM. Don't be surprised if you see a large number
> of LGA boundaries disappear in Queensland as well (same
> story...private import from dataset we can't use).
>
> On 26/04/17 21:36, Simon Poole wrote:
>> Not sure if anybody from the AUS community actually follows
>> https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/876-countries-compare-2017-04-26
>>
>> , but a large number of boundaries in Tasmania were deleted yesterday,
>> for example:
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6269038/history
>>
>> I didn't see any prior discussion here and they may not be legit.
>>
>> Simon
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Re: [talk-au] Large number of Tasmanian boundaries removed

2017-04-26 Thread Andrew Davidson
Yeap, it was a undiscussed import from a dataset we don't have 
permission to use in OSM. Don't be surprised if you see a large number 
of LGA boundaries disappear in Queensland as well (same story...private 
import from dataset we can't use).


On 26/04/17 21:36, Simon Poole wrote:

Not sure if anybody from the AUS community actually follows
https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/876-countries-compare-2017-04-26
, but a large number of boundaries in Tasmania were deleted yesterday,
for example:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6269038/history

I didn't see any prior discussion here and they may not be legit.

Simon




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[talk-au] Large number of Tasmanian boundaries removed

2017-04-26 Thread Simon Poole
Not sure if anybody from the AUS community actually follows
https://wambachers-osm.website/index.php/10-osm-reports/876-countries-compare-2017-04-26
, but a large number of boundaries in Tasmania were deleted yesterday,
for example:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6269038/history

I didn't see any prior discussion here and they may not be legit.

Simon




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Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-26 Thread Warin

We'll get there. Crossed posts. No rush.

highway=rest_area
rest_area:camping=caravan ?

My previous post had :conditional ... and that is wrong.
I don't know about applying camp_site tags to rest areas, maybe. Will 
think on it.


On 26-Apr-17 05:29 PM, David Bannon wrote:
Hmm, at risk of answering my own question, there is a key, camp_site=* 
that is intended to apply to tourism=camp_site. Could you apply it to 
a rest area as well ?


highway=rest_area

camp_site=basic

caravan=yes

tent=no

David


On 26/04/17 17:17, David Bannon wrote:

On 25/04/17 20:33, Warin wrote:
Take the respective 'tourism=camp_site' data to 'highway=rest_area' 
with 'caravan=yes'.


Just what will that mean then ?  That a caravan can pull into the 
rest area ?  We will loose the information that camping is, at least 
primafacie allowed/practical ?


I don't think thats a good solution, if you then apply it to other 
states, a disaster (NSW notoriously anti "free camping").


David

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Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-26 Thread Warin

On 26-Apr-17 05:17 PM, David Bannon wrote:

On 25/04/17 20:33, Warin wrote:
Take the respective 'tourism=camp_site' data to 'highway=rest_area' 
with 'caravan=yes'.


Just what will that mean then ?  That a caravan can pull into the rest 
area ?  We will loose the information that camping is, at least 
primafacie allowed/practical ?


I don't think thats a good solution, if you then apply it to other 
states, a disaster (NSW notoriously anti "free camping").


If 'camping' is 'allowed/practical' in rest areas .. then the tag 
highway=rest_area has the information you require?


Or do you have another solution/idea? 
rest_area:condition:camping=caravan ??


Tagging them as tourism=camp_site looses the rest area information, 
which is what they are intended for, there primary function. It also 
implies use by tents, and that can be deceptive.



The tag caravan=yes, as you say, would indicate access, but also use of 
the rest area.


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Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-26 Thread David Bannon
Hmm, at risk of answering my own question, there is a key, camp_site=* 
that is intended to apply to tourism=camp_site. Could you apply it to a 
rest area as well ?


highway=rest_area

camp_site=basic

caravan=yes

tent=no

David


On 26/04/17 17:17, David Bannon wrote:

On 25/04/17 20:33, Warin wrote:
Take the respective 'tourism=camp_site' data to 'highway=rest_area' 
with 'caravan=yes'.


Just what will that mean then ?  That a caravan can pull into the rest 
area ?  We will loose the information that camping is, at least 
primafacie allowed/practical ?


I don't think thats a good solution, if you then apply it to other 
states, a disaster (NSW notoriously anti "free camping").


David

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Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-26 Thread David Bannon

On 25/04/17 20:33, Warin wrote:
Take the respective 'tourism=camp_site' data to 'highway=rest_area' 
with 'caravan=yes'.


Just what will that mean then ?  That a caravan can pull into the rest 
area ?  We will loose the information that camping is, at least 
primafacie allowed/practical ?


I don't think thats a good solution, if you then apply it to other 
states, a disaster (NSW notoriously anti "free camping").


David

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